You know this forum is full of people *****ing at each other left, right and center defending their fighters or hating on others and debating this that and the other. But what im seeing here is all sides scratching their heads and showing their displeasure in this WBC Franchise nonsense. Thats when you can just tell something aint good for Boxing.
Weren't you screaming 6 months ago about how Loma was ducking Lopez and wouldn't fight him? Now that that fight COULD happen (If Lopez beats Commey, which he probably won't) you've moved the goalposts.
Find me where I said this bs & I will bow down to being fos. But you won't & can't because I never said that.
So sounds like it is you whos fos
true... but the Franchise-belt, is basically the Canelo-belt
it was invented to enable the WBC to ignore their own rules, and prevent them from stepping on Canelo's toes... like last time
no idea why they are letting Loma play with the Canelo-belt... ?
I guess to make it less obvious to fans that the Franchise-belt is actually the Canelo-belt... not sure...
I am a Canelo-fan.... but having special rules for one fighter sucks
we can see that now, by how Lomachenko just got sucked into that nonsense
it sucks that they have special rules for Canelo... but, here is the problem...
this time around, the ABC's wanted...
WBC - Jermall Charlo
WBA - Ryota Murata
IBF - Gennady Golovkin
WBO - Demetrius Andrade
well... FACT: Canelo selected a better opponent
last time around, Canelo selected Danny Jacobs... who is - other than Golovkin - better than any of those guys
Canelo is making better fights then they make
these guys are ranked no lower than 2 by at least one ABC org...
Kamil Szeremeta
Steven Butler
Alantez Fox
Canelo will never fight those guys
if he moves to 168, to fight guys like Benavidez, Plant, Smith... like I suspect... then... ?
Yeah, I'm not sure why he's acting like they did Loma a favor with this decision. They literally just stripped him of the belt he won a month ago when he's been saying for a year his goal was to win all 4 belts in the division.
It benefits Haney, sure. But not Lomachenko. And it just makes Haney bragging about having the "real WBC belt" on social media and being ducked as laughable.
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That is the million dollar question. Excellent post.
Bottom line is I've been saying for a while now,all the WBC had to do was put a clause in their rules that champ gets to fight any other champ in any division & they'll get an exception from mandos,but as soon as they're fighting someone whos not a champ or whos not a lucrative money fight,or if they choose to sit on their ass waiting rather than fight their mando,then they should be stripped.
If they'd have done that then Loma would have been stripped because he's trying to wait around a long time for the wbo eliminator(what if its a draw ffs).
Bottom line is Loma has Zero excuse not to fight Haney right now,zilch,cero,none,nada,Nashi,aucun.(every languages version of zero/none)
true... but the Franchise-belt, is basically the Canelo-belt
it was invented to enable the WBC to ignore their own rules, and prevent them from stepping on Canelo's toes... like last time
no idea why they are letting Loma play with the Canelo-belt... ?
I guess to make it less obvious to fans that the Franchise-belt is actually the Canelo-belt... not sure...
I am a Canelo-fan.... but having special rules for one fighter sucks
we can see that now, by how Lomachenko just got sucked into that nonsense
it sucks that they have special rules for Canelo... but, here is the problem...
this time around, the ABC's wanted...
WBC - Jermall Charlo
WBA - Ryota Murata
IBF - Gennady Golovkin
WBO - Demetrius Andrade
well... FACT: Canelo selected a better opponent
last time around, Canelo selected Danny Jacobs... who is - other than Golovkin - better than any of those guys
Canelo is making better fights then they make
these guys are ranked no lower than 2 by at least one ABC org...
Kamil Szeremeta
Steven Butler
Alantez Fox
Canelo will never fight those guys
if he moves to 168, to fight guys like Benavidez, Plant, Smith... like I suspect... then... ?
Fughin Sulaiman
Just a thief and doing it in broad daylight
Just wish fighters would forget the belts in whole and just concentrate on fighting each other
Not sure what that would bring about , besides damn good fights
Almost every single loma fan on this site acts as if Nelo is supposed to fight LITERALLY the absolute most difficult opponent & if possible with most power & in his prime fighter every single fight in a row & many sht on his opponents even when they fit that criteria,"well here it is mutha fckas,time to put up or shut up loma fans" either loma is the best & supposed atg or he isn't.
As Haney himself says,If Haneys easy work then get'em out the way & cement his legacy once & for all vs an actual prime,top of the line young lion marquee name hes supposedly been after all these yrs. Hed get more credit for Haney than anyone else at 135 amongst hardcore boxing fans/insiders.
Quack quack quack
Haneys waiting for Loma to derail his supposed hypetrain,he would go down as having took his soul
Weren't you screaming 6 months ago about how Loma was ducking Lopez and wouldn't fight him? Now that that fight COULD happen (If Lopez beats Commey, which he probably won't) you've moved the goalposts.
That is the million dollar question. Excellent post.
Bottom line is I've been saying for a while now,all the WBC had to do was put a clause in their rules that champ gets to fight any other champ in any division & they'll get an exception from mandos,but as soon as they're fighting someone whos not a champ or whos not a lucrative money fight,or if they choose to sit on their ass waiting rather than fight their mando,then they should be stripped.
If they'd have done that then Loma would have been stripped because he's trying to wait around a long time for the wbo eliminator(what if its a draw ffs).
Bottom line is Loma has Zero excuse not to fight Haney right now,zilch,cero,none,nada,Nashi,aucun.(every languages version of zero/none)
"wait around for a long time for the WBO eliminator"
The fight is in six weeks.
if Canelo fought Charlo at 160 for the REAL wbc title...
or if Loma fought Haney at 135 for the REAL wbc title...
and won...
would they immediately be stripped of the full title, and reinstated as "Franchise" champion? ... leaving the full title vacant?
how does that shlt work... ?
That's my assumption. ****ing cash grab by Sulimen. Loma just WON the ****ing belt weeks ago.
Almost every single loma fan on this site acts as if Nelo is supposed to fight LITERALLY the absolute most difficult opponent & if possible with most power & in his prime fighter every single fight in a row & many sht on his opponents even when they fit that criteria,"well here it is mutha fckas,time to put up or shut up loma fans" either loma is the best & supposed atg or he isn't.
As Haney himself says,If Haneys easy work then get'em out the way & cement his legacy once & for all vs an actual prime,top of the line young lion marquee name hes supposedly been after all these yrs. Hed get more credit for Haney than anyone else at 135 amongst hardcore boxing fans/insiders.
Quack quack quack
Haneys waiting for Loma to derail his supposed hypetrain,he would go down as having took his soul
if Canelo fought Charlo at 160 for the REAL wbc title...
or if Loma fought Haney at 135 for the REAL wbc title...
and won...
would they immediately be stripped of the full title, and reinstated as "Franchise" champion? ... leaving the full title vacant?
how does that shlt work... ?
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That is the million dollar question. Excellent post.
Bottom line is I've been saying for a while now,all the WBC had to do was put a clause in their rules that champ gets to fight any other champ in any division & they'll get an exception from mandos,but as soon as they're fighting someone whos not a champ or whos not a lucrative money fight,or if they choose to sit on their ass waiting rather than fight their mando,then they should be stripped.
If they'd have done that then Loma would have been stripped because he's trying to wait around a long time for the wbo eliminator(what if its a draw ffs).
Bottom line is Loma has Zero excuse not to fight Haney right now,zilch,cero,none,nada,Nashi,aucun.(every languages version of zero/none)
if Canelo fought Charlo at 160 for the REAL wbc title...
or if Loma fought Haney at 135 for the REAL wbc title...
and won...
would they immediately be stripped of the full title, and reinstated as "Franchise" champion? ... leaving the full title vacant?
how does that shlt work... ?
Didn't watch the video & am completely against the franchise belt...BUT I see it as kindve like this based on research:
The franchise belt originally was given to Nelo because he was already basically unified by being the Lineal & 3 original "real" belts holder at mw(Andrade beat a no hoper 4 joke wbo pos),AND Nelo has been repping WBC off & on for 10 yrs,
AND he is moving up fighting champs at higher divisions in the attempt to make history in holding belts in 3 weight classes at once as well as having a literally 1 of a kind most lucrative in history 11 fight network deal,meaning he is the literal definition of being above belts as well as the only fighter that truly doesn't need the WBC to the pt he already told them to go fck themselves & they were trying to suck him off at every turn to make amends
Nelos literally the only fighter who wbc needs more than he needs them,so they gave him a special belt that meant they get sanctioning fees regardless of who nelo fights & what weight,& it allowed him to hop between divisions whenever he feels like to continue making the biggest best fights & continues earning that Dazn chedda".
Nelo is literally the most unique of cases to try justifying that bs trinket. And its also my understanding that WBC diamond belt goes to the fighter that beats nelo & therefore means they have to unify vs the *actual* wbc champ to determine who the champ is.
In the meantime the WBC champ gets to be full champ while waiting on Nelo lottery.
Now as for Loma you have someone who got to break WBC rules to jump the line & fight the far weaker fighter in Campbell for the belt instead of Haney the young undefeated powerful skillful lion that was supposed to be next in line.
Loma(& his fans) supposedly cares so much about mandatories when its brain trauma victims like Crolla,but not if its Haney whom Bob said he would duck by moving down as soon as he becomes unified,(just as Crawford moved up when he unified rather than face the better fighters at 140 & actually defend those belts(even if the bs Ibf would've stripped him),he beat the weakest opponents in history in order to become unified with mostly a bunch of vacant belts & then moved up & went after Horns trinket & Bob claimed he didn't want manny because of wanting to protect pac(BS!)& Since then Crawford's fought bums,no wonder he says he doesn't want franchise status he like wbo bum mandatories.)
But Loma literally hasn't repped WBC in his entire career til Arum bribed Sulaimans so he can get gifted that belt & avoid Haney in 1 swoop. He doesn't have anything preventing him from fighting Haney while waiting almost a yr for the wbo champ. Haney already said he'll take whatever scraps hes given to make that fight. Loma is not a cashcow above belts,& is not in any way shape or form going to be moving up like Nelo or holding belts in multiple weights & in fact said he'll move down instead of fighting Haney(quack quack quack)
The WBC already allows fighters automatic exceptions in order to fight other champs anyways so the LITERAL only reason Loma has to request franchise status is so he can sit on shelf while ducking Haney & then be champ when he moves down,& he will then not have to fight the wbc champ at 130 anyways.
I don't like the Franchise title one little bit
I just ignore it
the WBC champ at 160 is Charlo... if Canelo wants to fight him he will
the WBC champ at 135 is Haney... Loma knows what to do
if they lose, then the... " Franchise "... is worthless
just stop thinking of the Franchise holder as a champion
the WBC 160 champion is Charlo... the WBC 135 champion is Haney
you say that the Franchise champion cannot lose the WBC title in the ring
but that is wrong... he cannot win the WBC title in the ring
Didn't watch the video & am completely against the franchise belt...BUT I see it as kindve like this based on research:
The franchise belt originally was given to Nelo because he was already basically unified by being the Lineal & 3 original "real" belts holder at mw(Andrade beat a no hoper 4 joke wbo pos),AND Nelo has been repping WBC off & on for 10 yrs,
AND he is moving up fighting champs at higher divisions in the attempt to make history in holding belts in 3 weight classes at once as well as having a literally 1 of a kind most lucrative in history 11 fight network deal,meaning he is the literal definition of being above belts as well as the only fighter that truly doesn't need the WBC to the pt he already told them to go fck themselves & they were trying to suck him off at every turn to make amends
Nelos literally the only fighter who wbc needs more than he needs them,so they gave him a special belt that meant they get sanctioning fees regardless of who nelo fights & what weight,& it allowed him to hop between divisions whenever he feels like to continue making the biggest best fights & continues earning that Dazn chedda".
Nelo is literally the most unique of cases to try justifying that bs trinket. And its also my understanding that WBC diamond belt goes to the fighter that beats nelo & therefore means they have to unify vs the *actual* wbc champ to determine who the champ is.
In the meantime the WBC champ gets to be full champ while waiting on Nelo lottery.
Now as for Loma you have someone who got to break WBC rules to jump the line & fight the far weaker fighter in Campbell for the belt instead of Haney the young undefeated powerful skillful lion that was supposed to be next in line.
Loma(& his fans) supposedly cares so much about mandatories when its brain trauma victims like Crolla,but not if its Haney whom Bob said he would duck by moving down as soon as he becomes unified,(just as Crawford moved up when he unified rather than face the better fighters at 140 & actually defend those belts(even if the bs Ibf would've stripped him),he beat the weakest opponents in history in order to become unified with mostly a bunch of vacant belts & then moved up & went after Horns trinket & Bob claimed he didn't want manny because of wanting to protect pac(BS!)& Since then Crawford's fought bums,no wonder he says he doesn't want franchise status he like wbo bum mandatories.)
But Loma literally hasn't repped WBC in his entire career til Arum bribed Sulaimans so he can get gifted that belt & avoid Haney in 1 swoop. He doesn't have anything preventing him from fighting Haney while waiting almost a yr for the wbo champ. Haney already said he'll take whatever scraps hes given to make that fight. Loma is not a cashcow above belts,& is not in any way shape or form going to be moving up like Nelo or holding belts in multiple weights & in fact said he'll move down instead of fighting Haney(quack quack quack)
The WBC already allows fighters automatic exceptions in order to fight other champs anyways so the LITERAL only reason Loma has to request franchise status is so he can sit on shelf while ducking Haney & then be champ when he moves down,& he will then not have to fight the wbc champ at 130 anyways.
Crazy Canelo , Lomachenko , and future champions CAN'T LOSE the belt in the ring
if they lose, then the... " Franchise "... is worthless
just stop thinking of the Franchise holder as a champion
the WBC 160 champion is Charlo... the WBC 135 champion is Haney
you say that the Franchise champion cannot lose the WBC title in the ring
but that is wrong... he cannot win the WBC title in the ring