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Derevyanchenko is out here looking like a raccoon that got run over by a Kazakh bus...
So does the same narrative Canelo fans used in the GGG rematch apply now? Because Golovkin face wasnt nearly as fked up as this.
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You ggg stans reach so high to come up with fake news.
Let's see GGG's face or will he hid for a year + again after getting a beating.
Over/under that ggg fights again in 6 months?
Canelo purists don’t really care of the outcome between GGG vs Devry. You’re assuming that the “face”’ narrative was never used by Ward diehards whom never fancied GGG. In fact many GGG critics aren’t Canelo fans neither nor did they use a face excuse.
And the irony is that Canelo haters like the LDBC are saying that Devry did better than Canelo. That’s the whole point! Canelo aint getting credit for his fights
Good post but the second part isn’t the point of this thread. And it took me to read stuff here it to realize damn canelo softened up GGG pretty good credit to ginger for doing so
LOL People pointed at GGG face to make fun of him lmfao their is a difference lol.
Yes and no. Getting lit up like a Xmas tree was a good one but most were haters using that as an excuse
Like the TS said you can’t have it both ways
some how the OP blalantly ignored the whooping ggg took to the body in both fights...
That’s not his point my dude. His point was or is that the gintards were bragging to the golovtards that based on the damage to the face after the fight ggg got his azz handed to him. The TS actually made a great point but like he said you can’t have it both ways and they know it. He cornered them and there really is no way out except to admit they are haters which they won’t do.
Phew. There’s light and honesty in boxing after all. Most GGG Groupies haven’t said, once, since the “win” vs Devry, that GGg’s armor took a toll after the Canelo rematch. Most Groupies just say he’s old and never acknowledging a hard fight and realistic recovery. These same fans are the ones whom are saying Kovalev is finished for the same exact logic, taking a beating...
That and be a abandoned his jab in those fights. I think he is done
Borat is beloved by Trump stans like yourself especially on this forum.
More importantly tho Canelo is hated and people say Trout, Lara, Cotto, and even Muslim Borat beat him.
I'll post using a more neutral source including the media when I have more time tomorrow.
Otherwise keep throating those white ppl yo
Not even white.
Not even playing it up to white people just watching boxing.
Good to know you're a trash ass poster who makes all us minority look bad when you cant win an argument and need to play the race card.
You're so f.ucking embarrassing.
The marked faces discussion was never in reference to "who won" either fight. It was in reference to Borat stans, like yourselves, who suggested GGG won both fights (he didnt) because he landed more jabs...and "his jab a power punch doe".
His jab is a normal jab. That's it. That's all. He has a good jab though, for sure, but it's a jab. If and when GGG ever KD or KOd an opponent with a jab says more about the horrible quality of his resume than it does his jab or his power.
Again, GGG is a good fighter. GGG is better than Thurman, Porter, Danny G, and Spence, but his power was always overblown. That's why he looked ordinary and went 1-2-1 against Canelo, Danny J, and Dervenchenko.
The best threads were when you fold would suggest GGG was ATG MW. Always had me crying XD XD XD
First thing first let's not lie and revise history like so many of you Canelo fans love to do.
No one said GGG won because of his jab. GGG landed more punches than Canelo did. It was you guys who decided that since Canelo got outlanded that you would find a statistic that fits your agenda.
Tell me how many boxing fights devolve into jabs vs power punches. Hmm? None. Only GGG vs Canelo. Tons of boxers have used a jab as their primary weapon and damage dealer but no, it only matters when Canelo is involved.
GGGs jab kept snapping Canelos head back all night so I dont see the problem with you complaining he kept throwing it. It was effective and Canelo did nothing about it.
If you were a boxer and you knew the other guy was faster than you and waiting to counter your power hand but ate jabs all night why would you change your strategy?
But nah. Only kind if boxing match you'll find where power punches matter SO MUCH is GGG/Canelo.
****. Even Kovalev on the slide KOed a guy who was gassed with a jab. It's not impossible. Saying a jab is a jab and nothing more just proves you know nothing. There are different kinds of jabs.
Take Lomachenko jab vs GGGs jab.
They the same doe.
Canelo beat GGG by the standards his own team put forth, even his trainer said you're a whiny hypocrite if you complain about the decision. The fact that he also dished out a beating on him while turning the tables on him was just further validation-- and he didn't just batter GGG's head, some of the best work done by either fighter was Canelo's digging body attack (which some biased fans conveniently ignore).
Meanwhile GGG fans are conveniently trying to overlook Chenko's body attack, because as badly as Chenko looked, GGG was just as hurt to the body.
So fighters arent allowed to get hurt? Canelo went to the body all he wanted but it didnt change the outcome of the fight did it? Also winning the narrative doesnt mean you won the fight.
Just because GGGs camp challenged Canelo to fight Mexican style and Canelo obliged does not give him an inherent advantage on the score cards now does it? And if you think it should then you shouldnt be watching boxing and should go watch WWE instead.
You only use what trainers say when what they say fits your agenda. Trainers arent the guys fighting in the ring nor do they, or should they have enough time to score the rounds. That's not their job.
When Floyd Senior told Floyd he was losing the fight against Pacquiao was he? If he wasnt why did he say it?
Or when a fighter s getting beat to **** and they till their fighter that they're doing good?
And just so you both of you guys know, no one had Canelo winning either fight. Only groupies like you guys.
Check the media score cards why dont you or polls about both fights. Then consider that Canelo has a bigger fan base and influence than GGG. If Canelo really won why the majority felt he didnt?
Why did fans here vote:
Fight1
370 75.98% GGG
67 13.76%Canelo
50 10.27% Draw
Fight 2
166 57.44% GGG
96 33.22% Canelo
27 9.34%Draw
If they believed Canelo won so handily?
Or the media?
GGG vs Canelo
21GGG
1 Canelo
3 Draw
21/25 = 84%
GGG vs Canelo 2
34 for GGG
2 Canelo
15 Draw
34/51 =67%
I ask questions but am I going to get answers or are you gonna run away scared?
ok this thread is just mocking idiot canelo fans who said look at his face he won, anyone getting all philosophical in this thread lighten up u uptight geeks.
now on another note just found this video where stitch duran said look at the faces lol at the 2:00 mark
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0FsD_3CUEpg
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Derevyanchenko is out here looking like a raccoon that got run over by a Kazakh bus...
So does the same narrative Canelo fans used in the GGG rematch apply now? Because Golovkin face wasnt nearly as fked up as this.
https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/574246329908199457/630865506232041472/Screenshot_20191007-2233233.png
Damn, Drevychenko shouldve been bobbin' & weavin' more. Ggg kicked his ass! My assumption would be that if slow ass GGG could inflict that much damage, Drevychenko may have been Canelos 1st body. #speedkills
NONE of those "people" are world class fighters.
Canelo did say GGG had good power, but so what? David Lemieux has good power too lmfao
What do you consider a world class fighter then because there are a ton of people who say he had crazy raw power. Did he find ways to deliver it against his best opponents? No. But he still could punch, no one denies that.
I was asking a legitimate question, considering your worship a verified PED user your input is meaningless.
i don't worship anything u lowlife punk coward, only ped user is canelo in this thread moron. I see u like to worship h-omothugs like g-ay dre and the inventor of h-omo thugz 2wack
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Derevyanchenko is out here looking like a raccoon that got run over by a Kazakh bus...
So does the same narrative Canelo fans used in the GGG rematch apply now? Because Golovkin face wasnt nearly as fked up as this.
https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/574246329908199457/630865506232041472/Screenshot_20191007-2233233.png
You’re basically taking the logic of 14 year old who’s never been in the ring before and trying to argue with them.
Anyone who says “but look at his face”, is a piece of **** causal ****....
Ignore them.
The marked faces discussion was never in reference to "who won" either fight. It was in reference to Borat stans, like yourselves, who suggested GGG won both fights (he didnt) because he landed more jabs...and "his jab a power punch doe".
His jab is a normal jab. That's it. That's all. He has a good jab though, for sure, but it's a jab. If and when GGG ever KD or KOd an opponent with a jab says more about the horrible quality of his resume than it does his jab or his power.
Again, GGG is a good fighter. GGG is better than Thurman, Porter, Danny G, and Spence, but his power was always overblown. That's why he looked ordinary and went 1-2-1 against Canelo, Danny J, and Dervenchenko.
The best threads were when you fold would suggest GGG was ATG MW. Always had me crying XD XD XD
I'm a Borat stand because I felt it possible he could've won either? That's a pretty stupid argument, considering how many people who have no dog in the fight, believe they should at least be 1-1. And you can't find anything about me saying he was an ATG MW because I've never said that. His power became "overblown" when he started to slow down. There's been too many people who have fought him that said his power is legit so I have to take their word for it, not yours. Not sure what was the point of quoting me.
The marked faces discussion was never in reference to "who won" either fight. It was in reference to Borat stans, like yourselves, who suggested GGG won both fights (he didnt) because he landed more jabs...and "his jab a power punch doe".
His jab is a normal jab. That's it. That's all. He has a good jab though, for sure, but it's a jab. If and when GGG ever KD or KOd an opponent with a jab says more about the horrible quality of his resume than it does his jab or his power.
Again, GGG is a good fighter. GGG is better than Thurman, Porter, Danny G, and Spence, but his power was always overblown. That's why he looked ordinary and went 1-2-1 against Canelo, Danny J, and Dervenchenko.
The best threads were when you fold would suggest GGG was ATG MW. Always had me crying XD XD XD
I'm not a Borat stan, don't make assumptions
Canelo beat GGG by the standards his own team put forth, even his trainer said you're a whiny hypocrite if you complain about the decision. The fact that he also dished out a beating on him while turning the tables on him was just further validation-- and he didn't just batter GGG's head, some of the best work done by either fighter was Canelo's digging body attack (which some biased fans conveniently ignore).
Meanwhile GGG fans are conveniently trying to overlook Chenko's body attack, because as badly as Chenko looked, GGG was just as hurt to the body.
how was the guy who got put on his ass less hurt than the guy who didn't even get badly wobbled? do you use your own eyes, or let brian kenny, a baseball guy by trade, tell you when a guy is hurt?
you go down when you cannot stand. that wasn't a slip! he had been rocked by a combination, and he caught a shot n the back of the head and it put him down. shots on teh back and the side of the head don't usually knock you out like aclean shot on teh chin, but they will absolutely shake your balance and put you on the deck. 10-8 round, the most effective punch of the fight and the reason derevyanchenko lostFirst of all, I never questioned the validity of the knockdown. It was legitimate knockdown. So that is a strawman argument at its worst.
Also, if Gennady had indeed won the fight as you claim he did, then why was the crowd booing the decision genius; Since you have so much infinite knowledge and wisdom when it comes to all things pertaining boxing?
The reason why the fans were booing the decision because they just witnessed a robbery. They just saw a fight and agreed with me that it was bullshit decision, which should have gone the other way and that the wrong man won.
Also, I do very well thinking for myself thank you. So I don't need anybody telling me how to judge, score and who's winning a fight. Did you see the damn fight?
Chances are you didn't because if you did, then you would have agreed with me and the other thousands of fans at the MSG; Mostly, of whom were pro GGG fans by the way, that Gennady Golovkin had lost, got his asswhopped and was awarded a gift decision in the process by the judges
You say that but it was Golovkin who was admitted to the hospital after the fight not Derevyanchenko. Also, it was Gennady who appeared the more hurt in that fight not Sergiy. So that's where we are headed now; Scoring blood?
Sure, Gennady cut him over the eye and dropped in the first round with a punch above the temple. However, at the same time it did not effect Derevyanchenko's overall performance.
Sergiy was ripping combination punches to the head and body that appeared to have hurt Gennady on multiple occasions. Golovkin seemed to lack both the energy and stamina to keep Derevyanchenko off of him; Which is why he kept backing up most of the fight.
Also, Sergiy's punches were a lot faster, more accurate, powerful and energetic than Gennady's too. Golovkin's workrate was much lower than usual. At times he appeared gunshy and had trouble letting his hands go.
They were both in the hospital, check your facts
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Derevyanchenko is out here looking like a raccoon that got run over by a Kazakh bus...
So does the same narrative Canelo fans used in the GGG rematch apply now? Because Golovkin face wasnt nearly as fked up as this.
https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/574246329908199457/630865506232041472/Screenshot_20191007-2233233.png
😂😂Some idiot actually said that to me in the MGM Lobby.