I can see anything from golovkin by 1-4 rnds to a draw to SD by 1-2 rnds depending on how many of the swingrounds you give him.
the robbery talk is ridiculous though, SD had 3 clear rounds, the 3rd, the 5th and the 10th. you then have to give him all the swingrounds to even make an argument he won.
You think there will be a rematch? i think Golovkin fights 1-2 more times and then retires, Canelo being one of those fights obviously.
I scored it the same way round by round (for 116-114) and like you say the rounds were close (I counted 9 close rounds).
SD fought a great fight, GGG wasn't himself but still did enough to win a close one.
Either way I think sd stock rises. I hope he gets another title shot.
I can see anything from golovkin by 1-4 rnds to a draw to SD by 1-2 rnds depending on how many of the swingrounds you give him.
the robbery talk is ridiculous though, SD had 3 clear rounds, the 3rd, the 5th and the 10th. you then have to give him all the swingrounds to even make an argument he won.
You think there will be a rematch? i think Golovkin fights 1-2 more times and then retires, Canelo being one of those fights obviously.
It's only a robbery for fools.
I think ggg would be up for a rematch but it all goes down to his schedule. He may fight twice at most next year and if it's not canelo then it should be sd.
But like I said, he is slowly rusting and should be thinking of retirement.
round 12: SD is rushing into the inside ward style flurrying bodyshots and then clinching. Golovkin is landing some big left hooks on SD who is looking very ragged, hes still fighting back and lands a nice right hook in the final 30 seconds, Golovkin finishes with a big uppercut. good round for golovkin.
6-6 even. Golovkin wins with the KD. very good fight but not the gatti /ward war that lou dibella was describing.
Had it the same, 114-113 Golovkin
Exactly how I scored it and had Golovkin having to win 11 and 12 for the 6-6 win by the Kock down in round 1.
People crying robbery are idiots, it was a good hard fight.
I think it was by far Golovkins toughest fight in his career, Canelo didn't give him half the trouble this kid did. Not sure if he just got old overnight, he was really sick, or Derevyanchenko was just that good on saturday but it made for a hell of a fight!!
mlac said that they scored 3 rounds 10-10, and you said you scored things the same way (assuming you also scored rounds even), yet got to 6-6 with a knockdown.
Unless I missed what you said, that's inconsistent.
He said he could of scored those rounds even but after rewatching it , he scored it for one or the other
I had no 10-10 rounds
Never said I did
mlac said that they scored 3 rounds 10-10, and you said you scored things the same way (assuming you also scored rounds even), yet got to 6-6 with a knockdown.
Unless I missed what you said, that's inconsistent.
Just watched it again and come up with the same thoughts. Dereyvchenko didn’t deserve to lose but also GGG by 114-113 looks like a good card. I gave Golovkin the first two and last two. I believe the 4, 6 & I think the 8th or 9 were the swing rounds. 3-0 to either guy seems wrong in those rounds so 2-1 either way giving either guy the fight by a point seems right.
Dereyvchenko deserves another big fight. Think about it. He fought Jacobs in his first major fight without his trainer who’d been feeding Jacobs all the intel on him putting him at a big disadvantage and he goes down early but probably wins 6 or 7 rounds. A fair bit very, very close loss.
This fight, he’s dropped early, cut badly in the second yet of the last 10 rounds wins at least six.
He wins both re-matches IMO.
no offensive taken, if i was to take up your advice tho i would score 3 rounds 10-10. hence why i rewatched them. what was your scorecard?
What would have been so bad about scoring those rounds even? Honestly. You admit to forcing a winner of a round you saw as pretty even - thereby skewing your card for no good reason. The fairer decision would be to just call the round even, yet you, like most people, find that to be somehow weak and indecisive.
I scored it for SD 114-113 (7-5 in rounds, but could have seen it as wide as 8-4), but don't have any problem with your score. My issue isn't with how you saw this fight, but rather your irrational aversion to scoring an even round.
What are you talking about? I don't know if it was done in the past but judges don't give 10 - 10 rounds. They have to pick someone to win the round. And surely there are times they'd love the benefit of rewatching a round to provide a more accurate score. Rewatching would not reduce the accuracy of your call
Is that so? What other sports are you currently learning?
I let your response go for a few hours to give you time to edit or altogether delete, but you left it as is so let me enlighten you a bit. The entirety of your post is incorrect.
I don't want to get long-winded or pedantic with a proper reply, so I will simply recommend you do some research on boxing scoring. Maybe throw the following keywords and phrases into your browser: "unified rules of boxing commissions", "10-point must system."
I will concede that in a purely practical sense you are not entirely wrong. It's true that we hardly ever see 10-10 rounds in championship level boxing these days. The more interesting question to ask is why is this the case. It's certainly not because even rounds and 10-10 scores aren't a real thing. If you want to have the discussion about why we don't see so many evenly scored rounds, then that would be a thread worth making.
i can see anything from golovkin by 1-4 rnds to a draw to sd by 1-2 rnds depending on how many of the swingrounds you give him.
The robbery talk is ridiculous though, sd had 3 clear rounds, the 3rd, the 5th and the 10th. You then have to give him all the swingrounds to even make an argument he won.
You think there will be a rematch? I think golovkin fights 1-2 more times and then retires, canelo being one of those fights obviously.
going into the 11th rd the reporters asks rozier how do you have the fight? He goes it's close but we are down. Ggg was landing the cleaner harder shots which is why the judges gave him the fight. The post fight face pictures shows it all with ggg's face looking clean and sergey face ****ed up with both eyes shut.
I can see anything from golovkin by 1-4 rnds to a draw to SD by 1-2 rnds depending on how many of the swingrounds you give him.
the robbery talk is ridiculous though, SD had 3 clear rounds, the 3rd, the 5th and the 10th. you then have to give him all the swingrounds to even make an argument he won.
You think there will be a rematch? i think Golovkin fights 1-2 more times and then retires, Canelo being one of those fights obviously.
He will finish his contract 6 fights $100 million
round 8. Was a golovkin round for me until the final 30 seconds where sd stole it with a few flurries. Another very close round.
4-4 even
rd 8 was a clear ggg rd. Look at the punches ggg landed vs sergey's flurry.
I scored it exactly the same way but two rounds
I had 114-113
The knockdown making the difference and giving the W to GGG
This was far from or not even close to Ward-Gatti
And this was no fughin robbery , just a close fight
... you can't get 114-113 if you scored 10-10 rounds.....
Just watched it too, this is how I saw it -
RD 1 10-8 GGG
RD 2 10-9 GGG
RD 3 9-10 SD
RD 4 9-10 SD
RD 5 9-10 SD
RD 6 10-9 GGG
RD 7 10-9 GGG
RD 8 10-9 GGG
RD 9 10-0 GGG
RD 10 9-10 SD
RD 11 10-9 GGG
RD 12 10-10
116-112 GGG
The score does not reflect how close those rounds were but GGGs extra skill set and accuracy won a lot of the close rounds. I would not mind a rematch but GGG now needs to think of a retirement plan. Either he fights the rematch, tries hard for that Canelo fight or just retire because he is slowly rusting.
I scored it the same way round by round (for 116-114) and like you say the rounds were close (I counted 9 close rounds).
SD fought a great fight, GGG wasn't himself but still did enough to win a close one.
I think thats a bit harsh, im not sure what else SD/Rozier could of done, i think he gave his all and just didnt have enough to take the last 2 rounds and win the fight.
I have never been impressed with Banks, he might be a good trainer for all i know but hes not a good cornerman, and comes across too laid back especially when his fighters need a sense of urgency & clear instructions, which is exactly what Rozier does without overcomplicating things.
Wasn’t talking about only Dereyanchenko
For me Dervyanchenko will be a gatekeeper , don’t care how good he looked vs GGG
He’s missed out on all his opportunities and personally I think we just witnessed GGG getting old overnight
Banks was tutored by Steward , not sure how much time they had together but that’s gotta be worth something
I do agree he is Fughin motionless , seems he’s got something better to do instead of the task at hand
Who else is he training ? Do you have a clue
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GYAXlboK27w
Wish I could watch the whole fight slowed down like this 15 min video. Golovkin's inside game is lacking but he actually does have a really good sneaky right uppercut. Obviously this isn't the whole fight but even as I was watching the fight in real time, a lot of Derev's flurries may have looked good but there were times where not a lot landed. It just looks good because Golovkin is doing his best to avoid them and reset to give himself space, making it appear the flurries were more effective. Of course Chenko landed and he landed a fairly good amount but I think a lot of the body shots were also blocked too, although he did land a good amount there. Once again though, Golovkin made this fight so much harder than it should have been by not going to the body enough. He threw the right to the body every so often and it would land strong but the left to the body was almost non-existent. The opportunities are there, he for whatever reason has gone back to throwing multiple lefts to the head. If I'm Banks, I'm forcing him in camp to throw combinations where has some form of body shots, with the last 1 or 2 being downstairs. I'm sick of seeing his best weapon (outside of his jab) not get used. His left to the body used to be ****ing devastating.
Not so sure about Rozier
Thought he would have a better plan in the fight , especially with the fact that Rozier’s pupils already lost twice to GGG
Banks to me is still up there , hasn’t had enough to prove he is or not a good trainer
I think thats a bit harsh, im not sure what else SD/Rozier could of done, i think he gave his all and just didnt have enough to take the last 2 rounds and win the fight.
I have never been impressed with Banks, he might be a good trainer for all i know but hes not a good cornerman, and comes across too laid back especially when his fighters need a sense of urgency & clear instructions, which is exactly what Rozier does without overcomplicating things.