Errol Spence Was Absolutely Right.........

You guys would rather pay for a Wilder fight of 80 dollars then watch it on Dazn or ESPN , that goes for any PBC fighter, it's a cult like train of thought. You guys are so geared towards Wilder , in your case you fall under passive aggressive but you are still one of them. Ortiz vs Wilder is a great over priced PP V no one asked for. I'm sure you'll be over excited to shell out the doe when it could have been a regular Showtime fight , who needs that right ? Ha That isn't a cult train of thought, that is marketing and promotion toward and under served community. Floyd mentioned this years ago-that Bob doesn't really understand the African American consumer and has a hard time marketing toward them. Bob himself has said similar. Crawford for example-ever notice Bob doesn't have him appear at say the BET Awards or other events like that. Then they put his fights on the ESPN app instead of regular ESPN. Rarely if ever do you hear or see Crawford fights being promoted on urban radio or urban/ African American TV programs. These things matter to the people that purchase PBC, ESPN, DAZN etc. I agree with you the Wilder/Ortiz 2 fight is unnecessary and even if it were shouldn't be on PPV. The same can be said for the majority of fights you watch on DAZN and ESPN+-they are not worth the money you pay. You made a choice to buy. Cool. The people who buy wilder/Ortiz will make a choice. They are no worse than you. The bottom line is if you want people to buy your product you have to market it toward them and promote it on platforms where they are. DAZN and ESPN have more than enough resources to do this.

I brought them up because it's in context to fans , you guys are the only ones that worry about fighters pockets , but when it's brought up to who's avoiding paydays and who is generated more money you guys complain if it doesn't suit you. No, I actually don't. Again, what you said was completely irrelevant to the thread.

Or maybe because I'm busy. I haven't posted since I posted that to you. Have you taken the time to look for it yet? Negative. It doesn’t really matter anyway...ppvs are still overpriced regardless.

Yeah he got it right but a TON of credit goes to FOX, they're going all in for boxing and they promote the hell out of him and his fights. Him being attached to Jerry Jones and the Cowboys is also an amazing Marketing Ploy as well. They making all the right moves and industry connections to build up his Stardom Some running with the "He Was Exposed" Narrative but to the Casual Sport Fan, they don't see it that way, a fight like that leaves them wanting MORE! More from Spence Jr but also more for Shawn Porter as well

In demanding to have this fight on PPV. It wasn't the best for the fans, but let's not forget that the original plan was to have this fight in August on regular FOX. It would have done great ratings but even Haymon didn't think it would have done THIS good on PPV. Spence would have been leaving some money on the table if he accepted the original offer to fight on FOX. Now, it is clear that majority of his fights from this point on will be on PPV. How do you guys feel about that? And just looking ahead, there is a chance that he fights three times on PPV next year if he gets DSG/Pacquiao/Crawford. Heck, even the Porter rematch if he doesn't get Porter. Not sure who the last fighter was to get three fights on PPV in a year, but definitely hasn't happened much, if at all. I am still in shock that Porter was on a successful PPV card!

If you're really that curious you'd look for it & not try to use me as your free research analyst. When I want to know information I go find it. This was something I wanted to know so I did the work ...or you were just talking out your azz.

Yes. I've read the research. There's something else about how PPV buys are calculated. I'll save that one for later “Research”...why don’t you post a link? I’d be curious to see how they collect the info, sample size etc.

He won but did the fans ? I wasn't paying for that fight and refuse to do PPV anymore ,im a grown up I can't invite friends over to watch a fight with a bunch of 20 year olds ,I don't know anyone close to my age that even watches boxing. Spence vs Crawford is PPV worthy, not this one even if it was good. I caught it on youtube the next day. I mean I clearly mentioned that in my original post. It wasn't the best for the fans but it worked out for him and he would have made less had it been on regular FOX. You just brought up apps and cable for no reason. No one was talking about that.

Why do you guys insist on buying ppv over app or cable televises one . I find it hard to believe these type of fans possess much rationality . The PPV's feature fighters we want to see fight, so we buy the PPV. The streaming services don't always feature fighters that we want to see. What is wrong with people exercising choice? People that can afford a Mercedes can also afford a Toyota. The make a choice to buy what they want. You shouldn't have an issue with people spending their money how they want to.

Have official PPV numbers been released, or are you still banking on these insiders having sources without an agenda? Fox Sports does not release official PPV numbers, you have to wonder why.

I'm not convincing you of anything. Maybe you're a loser with no friends so you have to watch PPV's alone but the majority of people don't. The average PPV has 6 people watching which breaks down to $12 each when charging $75. how do you know the average is 6 people? are you citing some researched statistic?

As long as they don’t fight bums or has Beens True. 10 char.

Why do you guys insist on buying ppv over app or cable televises one . I find it hard to believe these type of fans possess much rationality . What? This isn't "insisting" anything. Cable or network TV or apps have nothing to do with this thread. Errol fought back against Haymon on fighting on regular FOX for a lesser pay day and ended up being proven right. He bet on himself and won.

Your logic only works if he continues to have fights people are actually interested in, people wanted to see mikey try to be great,and they wanted to see a unification fight,what does Danny Garcia have to offer?people already saying they not gonna buy that,Spence is not floyd yet,he can't just fight anybody on ppv,if he fights Danny on ppv I gurantee you gonna see a big drop in his numbers and I'mma Spence fan

I'll pay for the Pac and Crawford fights for sure. Neither are happening though. Not every fight is worth paying for like the DSG fight, that's a pass for sure.

Errol Spence is definitely worth paying for, as is Porter. As long as they don’t fight bums or has Beens

I just go to the movies nowadays to watch all PPV. Obviously most of my boxing viewing is usually alone but I enjoy that everyone comes together to watch these big fights.

I know you're right but that is why I think they should go with it on regular TV the Sat night before the bowl. Promote it during media week. Would be dope no doubt. Just don't get your hopes up for that lol. And Spence shouldn't be leaving money on the table. If FOX could pay him what he would get for the PPV? Then great! If not, then it should be PPV since he is delivering good numbers.

I'm not convincing you of anything. Maybe you're a loser with no friends so you have to watch PPV's alone but the majority of people don't. The average PPV has 6 people watching which breaks down to $12 each when charging $75. Where you pulling this 6 ppl to a PPV thing from? The PPV is still 75 or more.

LOL only MCC would try to convince us an 80 Dollar PPV is actually 12. If I was back in silicon valley, my living room is big, and my tv is big. we go 10 to 12 people deep. everyone brings food, and drink. we have had close to 20 people watching PPV fights. Here in Japan, i do not buy ppv. sometimes it is free.