Let's just call it how it is: Canelo is only fighting Kovalev because he is old

I don't like this essay, because author tries to inject the notion that weight drain is permissible and somewhat OK. To me this poster looks to be on a payroll because of this. "I'm totally on board with catchweights and stipulations of all stripes!" is a very distinct thought from "I honestly think this fight could be damn competitive even with crappy stipulations tacked on", but ya know, words, thoughts, merpy burp-derp. hehe~

I'm as convinced as anyone it's a cherry pick, but one I actually think stands a decent chance of backfiring. To put it in perspective, Kovalev could probably hang up the gloves tomorrow, eat a pile of Doritos every day until his 40th birthday, then time travel back and still beat the **** out of present day Rocky Fielding. It's just a much different deal. He's aptly demonstrated he's still very much a live wire, diminished but far from shot, and the idea that Canelo will be able to just hop right in and Paul Bunyan the midsection with impunity seems kind of silly when you take that jab and 1-2 into account, weight drain or not. I see Kov's responses early on largely determining how this one plays out...if Canelo sees he can get in close with little consequence the tree chopping will probably commence early on, culminating in mid to late stoppage. But if Kov is on point with the jab and can sting him enough, Canelo's gameplan could gradually go out the window and things could get real interesting. Another distinct possibility (especially if weight drain is a factor) is Kov having early success keeping Canelo at bay with the jab but then gassing badly somewhere after the midpoint and opening himself up to body attrition, same result different path. Maybe Kov can avoid that outcome by focusing on stamina to an unprecedented degree. Maybe the camp + weight drain pushes Kov over a brink and he goes geriatric overnight. A lot of maybes with this one. Bottom line I don't see it as the walk in the park for Canelo some do, win or lose. This fight's legitimacy goes up considerably with no catchweight/stipulations, but even factoring that likely possibility it is still growing on me by the day. I don't like this essay, because author tries to inject the notion that weight drain is permissible and somewhat OK. To me this poster looks to be on a payroll because of this.

...In a given context, you sentient tomato with internet access. It doesn't mean simply fighting literally the easiest opponent you could conceivably fight. Again, that's a positively idiotic oversimplification of the concept. Canelo decided he wanted to "dare to be great" (which given his course of action comes off more as "daring to be mildly interesting") with a 175 belt, and cherry picked what is ostensibly the most vulnerable of the corresponding options. You're being willfully obtuse and it's a chore to slog through. /exchange Sure I'm being obtuse.. But you keep trying to validate your points with excessive nonsense..Lol. GN. I'm going to bed.

..You're also willfully overlooking that I flat out said I actually like this fight, RK. Why? Because you either didn't read all I originally wrote or it's inconvenient for the cartoonish militant hater accusation you're trying to push on me. Move along.

In boxing cherry picking means finding the easiest opponent to beat... Kovalev is not the easiest out of Canelo's options. If you want to say Canelo is cherry picking LHWs, then go fk yourself. Kovalev has the biggest name and best resume of all the current champs in LHW. You're just an idiot trying to discredit Canelo and Kovalev at all cost. ...In a given context, you sentient tomato with internet access. It doesn't mean simply fighting literally the easiest opponent you could conceivably fight. Again, that's a positively idiotic oversimplification of the concept. Canelo decided he wanted to "dare to be great" (which given his course of action comes off more as "daring to be mildly interesting") with a 175 belt, and cherry picked what is ostensibly the most vulnerable of the corresponding options. You're being willfully obtuse and it's a chore to slog through. /exchange

Yah, a few complete sentences = wall of text. What an idiotically reductive conception of cherry picking. It's opportunistic pursuit of a particular opponent in a given context (i.e. a strap at a particular weight), nothing more. They aren't all equal in severity. Relative to what he could pursue for the equivalent prize at the weight, it comes off as a cherry pick, obvious alt of other random red imbecile I've inevitably rubbed the wrong way. Nor is cherry picking as a strategy necessarily at odds with a fight that turns out to be highly competitive. Again, very easy to understand for anyone who isn't a mouthbreathing twit. Please do run along; I don't have time for this stupid nonsense. In boxing cherry picking means finding the easiest opponent to beat... Kovalev is not the easiest out of Canelo's options. If you want to say Canelo is cherry picking LHWs, then go fk yourself. Kovalev has the biggest name and best resume of all the current champs in LHW. You're just an idiot trying to discredit Canelo and Kovalev at all cost.

You write a wall of text to only prove you are even dumber than previously expected. gg... Seeing an opportunity to fight a challenging opponent for a big reward is not cherry picking... asshle.. picking a fighter that is ranked at the bottom of the barrel that clearly has no chance is cherry picking. cherry picking means no challenge. Kovalev is a challenge.. try again tard.. Yah, a few complete sentences = wall of text. What an idiotically reductive conception of cherry picking. It's opportunistic pursuit of a particular opponent in a given context (i.e. a strap at a particular weight), nothing more. They aren't all equal in severity. Relative to what he could pursue for the equivalent prize at the weight, it comes off as a cherry pick, obvious alt of other random red imbecile I've inevitably rubbed the wrong way. Nor is cherry picking as a strategy necessarily at odds with a fight that turns out to be highly competitive. Again, very easy to understand for anyone who isn't a mouthbreathing twit. Please do run along; I don't have time for this stupid nonsense.

zZz. As always no one can simply call something precisely as they see it without being accused of nuthugging someone and devoting their love to hating another. Any reasonable person looking at the scenario with an objective eye would be able to discern this as a cherry pick--including yourself, you're clearly just being disingenuous--deal with it, you dork. He is targeting the oldest, most shopworn champion at the weight, who has now exhibited clear signs of wear (albeit far from "shot") and has been stopped multiple times, has well known stamina issues and a suspect midsection. At the risk of sounding like a parrot - no Gvozdyk, Beterbiev, et al - just as there was no pursuit of Smith, Benavidez, Ramirez...only Fielding the autistic penguin.There is no reasoning your way around that. Moving on, you're trying to accuse me of a contradiction that doesn't exist. Yes, I feel Canelo and co. have cherry picked Kov in the sense of pursuing him based directly on perceived weaknesses they feel they can successfully exploit (as does most everyone else who isn't stupid or comically naive) and I also feel Kov will likely prove more of a live wire than anticipated. ...In other words, I absolutely do suspect a challenging fight, and am simply highlighting what I feel to be the possible disparity between Canelo's thoughts on the matter (ripe for the picking!) and the actual reality of the situation (uh-oh! Harder than I thought! He's really lighting my stocky manlet ass up with that jab!). It's a "contradiction" only for someone with the intellect of a fish stick. Nice try lumping me in with the idiots who actually tried to frame the Rolls fight as anything other than a true nadir (do you know what that means without googling?) for Golovkin even by stay busy/network debut standards, btw, and nothing I've said here suggests I place the two fights on conparable footing. You're welcome to peruse my history; you'll find nothing of the sort. Scamper off into the shadows like a good little red k ****roach, now. Good boy. You write a wall of text to only prove you are even dumber than previously expected. gg... Seeing an opportunity to fight a challenging opponent for a big reward is not cherry picking... asshle.. picking a fighter that is ranked at the bottom of the barrel that clearly has no chance is cherry picking. cherry picking means no challenge. Kovalev is a challenge.. try again tard..

Most boxers prefer the most money for the least risk. Can't blame Canelo for this business decision. Kovalev should look at the history of fighters that cut weight and change his mind, unless he is cashing out. A unification bout will not get him as much money and perhaps he thinks those would not be winnable either. ... of course he's cashing out... :)

Most boxers prefer the most money for the least risk. Can't blame Canelo for this business decision. Kovalev should look at the history of fighters that cut weight and change his mind, unless he is cashing out. A unification bout will not get him as much money and perhaps he thinks those would not be winnable either.

You thinking it's a cherry pick is your and every GGG fanboy's perspective...Then you contradict yourself when you admit this wouldn't be an easy fight for Canelo.. It's fking dumb.. It's almost as if you are insinuating GGG cherry picking Rolls is equivalent to Canelo fighting Kovalev.. zZz. As always no one can simply call something precisely as they see it without being accused of nuthugging someone and devoting their love to hating another. Any reasonable person looking at the scenario with an objective eye would be able to discern this as a cherry pick--including yourself, you're clearly just being disingenuous--deal with it, you dork. He is targeting the oldest, most shopworn champion at the weight, who has now exhibited clear signs of wear (albeit far from "shot") and has been stopped multiple times, has well known stamina issues and a suspect midsection. At the risk of sounding like a parrot - no Gvozdyk, Beterbiev, et al - just as there was no pursuit of Smith, Benavidez, Ramirez...only Fielding the autistic penguin.There is no reasoning your way around that. Moving on, you're trying to accuse me of a contradiction that doesn't exist. Yes, I feel Canelo and co. have cherry picked Kov in the sense of pursuing him based directly on perceived weaknesses they feel they can successfully exploit (as does most everyone else who isn't stupid or comically naive) and I also feel Kov will likely prove more of a live wire than anticipated. ...In other words, I absolutely do suspect a challenging fight, and am simply highlighting what I feel to be the possible disparity between Canelo's thoughts on the matter (ripe for the picking!) and the actual reality of the situation (uh-oh! Harder than I thought! He's really lighting my stocky manlet ass up with that jab!). It's a "contradiction" only for someone with the intellect of a fish stick. Nice try lumping me in with the idiots who actually tried to frame the Rolls fight as anything other than a true nadir (do you know what that means without googling?) for Golovkin even by stay busy/network debut standards, btw, and nothing I've said here suggests I place the two fights on conparable footing. You're welcome to peruse my history; you'll find nothing of the sort. Scamper off into the shadows like a good little red k ****roach, now. Good boy.

I'm as convinced as anyone it's a cherry pick... Bottom line I don't see it as the walk in the park for Canelo some do, win or lose. You thinking it's a cherry pick is your and every GGG fanboy's perspective...Then you contradict yourself when you admit this wouldn't be an easy fight for Canelo.. It's fking dumb.. It's almost as if you are insinuating GGG cherry picking Rolls is equivalent to Canelo fighting Kovalev..

This is the part I don't like. It's bad enough with multiple champs in every division, but we know he's not going to defend it so the situation just gets more confused and there is even less meaning in titles. Pac was guilty of this, so was Floyd and Roy Jones and down the line. I don't like the fight for that reason. I think it's dumb. Regardless of what you think he is still fighting a champ in a higher weight class. If he win, that is still a respectable accomplishment for his resume. Let's not forget, fighting anyone with a belt is great for a resume.

Congrats, you are the ultimate Canelo fanboy...my goodness. He won't buy you dinner bro I think you are a moron, but creating this thread, defending Lara, and saying you are a canelo fan... You just went full tard. Did you even watch the Lara fight..

I want Canelo not to drain Kovalev and have a fair fight with someone for once without being up on the judges scorecards before the fight starts...that's what I want. It sounds like you want every disadvantage stacked on Canelo, so he could lose. If Canelo was asking for CW like any other fighter would, like Floyd would for example, that would be draining. Day of weight clauses are not the same thing. Canelo is still facing Kovalev at 175 probably 185. What more are you asking of Canelo you fking idiot. Canelo is obviously already taking a huge risk and you are asking that he does nothing to even the already huge disparity in size. And you call yourself a Canelo fan. Fk off. You wouldn't never have the balls to do what he's doing to begin with and you want to post on here like Canelo owes you something..

Everybody that can make him good money is old. Every good dance partner. Canelo is young. It’s not his fault. Andrade is young but he’s not a big money guy, or good dance partner. Both GGG and Kovalev are “old” but they are the one’s that will draw the most interest vs Canelo.

Some folk just hate the idea of a Mexican on top so much it makes them sick to their stomach with envy. Let all that shine burn putos!!!

You named one fight ,is that his only gift win ? Yes its the only truly blatant robbery gift win of his career,the others were merely him shown favoritism in the scoring because he got very wide decisions in close fights & I listed them,maidana & Cotto,maybe DLH. I only made these pts because everyone exaggerates Canelo having paid judges when he gets split decisions or razor thin wins in close fights or sometimes like the lara fight in a clear UD fight imho. My pt wasn't to bash Mayweather it was to show that even he had scorecards that were extremely biased, because these posters conveniently forget that every fighter has had quistionable cards even Floyd who was a master at winning individual rds by doing just enough to be sure hed get those rds.

Not a fan of ginger boy but he would fight anyone put in front of him unlike a guy named bumlovkin, who's been sitting in the same division since he started his pro career lol..fighting bums such as geale,wade jr,monroe etc etc then when he faced canelo there was suddenly no "drama show" because for once he fought someone who's capable of something. And he's still in the same division scared to move up like a lil girl..canelo on the other hand would fight kovalev something bumlovkin wouldn't do in a fantasy match up..even in a dream he would run away lol

Tell us again lad that Andre ward doesn’t know shyte about boxing Ward said the obvious that Kovalev is still very dangerous as well as much bigger than nelo while also having a rebirth now with his new trainer which has been proven to be the literal difference of why kov is now kicking younger lions asses instead of getting foldalev'd. So why would anyone be stupid enough to contest such common sense?:thinking::dunno: Current Kovalev wouldn't have folded like a deck chair like he did v Ward