Wilder is the new Mayweather

Wilder has gotten more popular as of late, but I don't believe he's anywhere close to Floyd popularity yet. And he's in the back 9 of his career already I feel like so he's not got a long time to reach that level. I don't see it now or happening in the future. I think he can continue to get more popular doe. Doe. I wish people would stop typing. Ebonics

Wilder's self confidence is fake, just an act that he's started to put on for the cameras. If he was really that confident in himself he would have tried to unify with the other belt holders in his division and he wouldn't have ducked fights with Wlad, AJ and Dillian Whyte. Mayweather's career was defined by his ability to transcend boxing and sell millions of US PPVs against just about anybody. Wilder's only PPV fight got disappointing numbers and most of the fans who paid for it were more interested in his opponent than him. Wilder's last fight wasn't PPV and was watched by only around a million viewers in the US. Mayweather's last fight sold over 4million PPVs at $100 a pop. You really couldn't find another US world title holder more unlike Mayweather than Wilder if you tried And that's without even mentioning their resumes and achievements in the ring, which are like night and day in comparison to each other. Your also forgetting that he WAITED for Vitali to retire before he went for the WBC strap avoided that K bro like the plague as well.

You're obviously on point with HW longevity I just don't see it happening at an elite level for Wilder for too much longer. His power is obviously not going anywhere anytime soon but I tend to believe his athletism is what is truly the secret of his success and I think that will be if it's not already tapering off. No way Wilder has 7 years give or take of elite level boxing in him. The athleticism is definitely the secret sauce, but Breland is still the lead coach in the corner, Wilder trusts him, and Wilder is still open to learning, in my opinion anyway. That multiple jab and that heavy lead hook are both there solid to go with the right hand, Wilder's spatially aware, and he's still rounding out other tools (hasn't really needed it yet, but Wilder has shown flashes of the ability to fight on the inside). Eventually, like every other really good/great fighter, I think Wilder will get into his "old lion" mode; taking the half step to the side versus the full hop back, fainting with the eyes/shoulders rather than always needing to throw the punch, etc. Wladimir at the end was a markedly different fighter than he was when he began his run, and I kind of expect the same from Wilder.

Certainly trying to brand him as such. Didn't realize until today they have a registered trademark on his "Til This Day" meme. But he's a little behind on that front: https://www.trademarkia.com/company-bombzquad-enterprises-llc-5207641-page-1-2 vs https://www.trademarkia.com/company-mayweather-promotions-llc-3554854-page-1-2 Nice pull, and you are right, there is a hard push to brand him as such, but that does not detract from the racial dynamic that fuels his haters

Certainly trying to brand him as such. Didn't realize until today they have a registered trademark on his "Til This Day" meme. But he's a little behind on that front: https://www.trademarkia.com/company-bombzquad-enterprises-llc-5207641-page-1-2 vs https://www.trademarkia.com/company-mayweather-promotions-llc-3554854-page-1-2

Professor Larry Clubber Pac THEFRESHBRAWLER Damon Dash, one of the very few black Americans I respect just explained the black American and American mentality on a podcast, using the Jay Z analogy and it explains why a lot of you don't like AJ. You hate when black people are independently empowered. Dame said in America, the system is set-up like slavery. When individual black people are trying to empower themselves, what the system does is that it picks one black person who can be a trusted servant and can kiss the rings, while destroying the rest that wants to be empowered. It lets that one through the door. It doesn't really empower him - it just gives him an image with some money, just to make all the other blacks subservient to him. So that "chosen" one is used to keep the rest in check. That's what the system has done with Jay Z in the entertainment industry and what it's doing with Al Haymon in boxing. And that's why a lot of you are mad at Anthony Joshua because he's not under Al Haymon. He's a free man running his own show and making shi..ttload of money. LMAO. You lot can't stand a free black man. "One of the few black americans", it's African Americans. You just admitted to don't care for 99% of the African Americans in the country, but the readers are supposed to buy anything you have to say whatsoever. GTFOH This post, and other posts on this thread prove it, the majority of these serial Wilder haters are bigots dude. Period

My friend just look at the reactions to your thread. When they can't admit they hate him, they always have 'reasons' rather than just saying yup, and they can never say anything remotely positive or that can be turned into a positive without hurting their *******, you know that hate is deep. Dig this my man, my boys are as follows, Floyd, Dre, Deontay. That's it, I ride with the great ones and I pick the great ones early. I done been through two careers of this ****. It don't change. Even if Wilder goes 50-0 and KOs everyone and goes undisputed they will still talk ****. They'll get distracted by the next brash and unbeatable black man and post more about him but when Wilder's name gets brought into it it'll be just like Dre and Money. They won't have good **** to say ever. They're hatin' ass mother ****ers. One thing Wilder has that Floyd doesn't is overt southernism. The world hates and laughs at the south. It's one of the last demographics it's socially acceptable to discriminate against. Finally, I think the story of Daniel Mendoza would interest you. He's the prototype hated champ. You can feel the racial divide in this thread, some of these reactions are respectable, the others? Just race baiting trolls that clearly cannot come up with a legit reason for hating a fan friendly champion.

Wilder's self confidence is fake, just an act that he's started to put on for the cameras. If he was really that confident in himself he would have tried to unify with the other belt holders in his division and he wouldn't have ducked fights with Wlad, AJ and Dillian Whyte. Mayweather's career was defined by his ability to transcend boxing and sell millions of US PPVs against just about anybody. Wilder's only PPV fight got disappointing numbers and most of the fans who paid for it were more interested in his opponent than him. Wilder's last fight wasn't PPV and was watched by only around a million viewers in the US. Mayweather's last fight sold over 4million PPVs at $100 a pop. You really couldn't find another US world title holder more unlike Mayweather than Wilder if you tried And that's without even mentioning their resumes and achievements in the ring, which are like night and day in comparison to each other. I can understand some of the smucks on here having the entire point of my thread fly over their heads like a F-18. But you? Dude, read through again, the accolades in the ring are not in play here, not one of the factors, yet all of these crybabies keep missing the point to again, hate on Wilder. It's unbelievable, I think DW keeps some of these dudes awake at night.

Deontay Wilder has quickly become one of the biggest boxing stars of the last 15 years, perhaps longer than that. It has been decades since the Heavyweight division has seen a fighter with the personality, and the physical talent of Wilder. His story is amazing, got into boxing because of his daughter's illness, won a Bronze Medal with virtually zero experience, and quickly developed into one of the greatest knockout artist boxing has ever seen. Wilder's lack of experience has always been evident, so what he has done, with all the so called prospects that have crashed and burned is remarkable. Wilder is the new George Foreman, except he has old Georges personality in his prime. So why all the hate? Why is it, that whenever his name appears on this forum, an army of people post childish pet names for him, or dedicate entire profile emojis to insulting him? The hate is real, passionate, and deep seeded. After a quick review, I realized many of the people who hated Mayweather, and posted craziness on this site at the simple mention of his name, have now transferred the hate to Wilder, splice in some keyboard warrior nationalists from the UK, and you have the biggest wagon of haters in all of sports, I think Tom Brady might compare, but the Wilder hate is worldwide. Why is this? Well, he is African American, outspoken, and rich, just like Mayweather was, Wilder will never be Mayweather in the ring, but he has filled the gap outside of it. Look for yourself, look at every Wilder article comment section that quotes him on the record being confident over the last two years, that research makes my point for me. Wilder represents something that people have had an issue with since Jack Johnson boxed, he is not demur, he is not quiet, he does not accept knowing him place, and because of that, he is hated. AJ is not seen as a brotha the same way Wilder is, which is why most of his fanbase is white, which is fine, but the truth. Wilder might not be the next big thing, and he certainly is not Ali, but right now, he is the most explosive, physically talented HW since the 70's, mabye further back than that, and on top of that, he is a good dude, ask around, see what other people say, he is beloved by the boxing community, even his opponents. Do me a favor, imagine if Wilder was white, what would the reaction to his rampage over the HW division be? Different than all of this chaos I can promise you that. Half of the reason floyd made so much money, was because of race, look at his opponents, the biggest fights were against white, or mexican fighters, race fueled those promotions, and many of the haters that flocked to Mayweathers name whenever it was evoked. Wilder is not perfect, but all in all, he is a good dude, the hate towards him is tribal, irrational, certainly not based on who he is as a person, more based on what he looks like, and his confidence in himself. Fury is the new Floyd. Sweet Pea in Goliaths body.

some of these threads, cmon. Wilder is some kind of bizarre Oddbod reject twin of Mayweather that ended up with all the wrong genes.

Deontay Wilder has quickly become one of the biggest boxing stars of the last 15 years, perhaps longer than that. It has been decades since the Heavyweight division has seen a fighter with the personality, and the physical talent of Wilder. His story is amazing, got into boxing because of his daughter's illness, won a Bronze Medal with virtually zero experience, and quickly developed into one of the greatest knockout artist boxing has ever seen. Wilder's lack of experience has always been evident, so what he has done, with all the so called prospects that have crashed and burned is remarkable. Wilder is the new George Foreman, except he has old Georges personality in his prime. So why all the hate? Why is it, that whenever his name appears on this forum, an army of people post childish pet names for him, or dedicate entire profile emojis to insulting him? The hate is real, passionate, and deep seeded. After a quick review, I realized many of the people who hated Mayweather, and posted craziness on this site at the simple mention of his name, have now transferred the hate to Wilder, splice in some keyboard warrior nationalists from the UK, and you have the biggest wagon of haters in all of sports, I think Tom Brady might compare, but the Wilder hate is worldwide. Why is this? Well, he is African American, outspoken, and rich, just like Mayweather was, Wilder will never be Mayweather in the ring, but he has filled the gap outside of it. Look for yourself, look at every Wilder article comment section that quotes him on the record being confident over the last two years, that research makes my point for me. Wilder represents something that people have had an issue with since Jack Johnson boxed, he is not demur, he is not quiet, he does not accept knowing him place, and because of that, he is hated. AJ is not seen as a brotha the same way Wilder is, which is why most of his fanbase is white, which is fine, but the truth. Wilder might not be the next big thing, and he certainly is not Ali, but right now, he is the most explosive, physically talented HW since the 70's, mabye further back than that, and on top of that, he is a good dude, ask around, see what other people say, he is beloved by the boxing community, even his opponents. Do me a favor, imagine if Wilder was white, what would the reaction to his rampage over the HW division be? Different than all of this chaos I can promise you that. Half of the reason floyd made so much money, was because of race, look at his opponents, the biggest fights were against white, or mexican fighters, race fueled those promotions, and many of the haters that flocked to Mayweathers name whenever it was evoked. Wilder is not perfect, but all in all, he is a good dude, the hate towards him is tribal, irrational, certainly not based on who he is as a person, more based on what he looks like, and his confidence in himself. - -BLUBBER the new U is it? Eeoww, P-U!

Yes, Wilders team carefully pick his opposition. They have gone from cherry picking nobodies to keep him safe they are now looking for big name fighters who are not in good condition but would still look nice on his resume cuz they got sick of people criticizing the amount of crap names on his resume. That sounds a bit like Floyd. Its the American way baby.

His record speaks for itself. When he knocks out Fury then he will reach that status, to a tee.

Deontay Wilder has quickly become one of the biggest boxing stars of the last 15 years, perhaps longer than that. It has been decades since the Heavyweight division has seen a fighter with the personality, and the physical talent of Wilder. His story is amazing, got into boxing because of his daughter's illness, won a Bronze Medal with virtually zero experience, and quickly developed into one of the greatest knockout artist boxing has ever seen. Wilder's lack of experience has always been evident, so what he has done, with all the so called prospects that have crashed and burned is remarkable. Wilder is the new George Foreman, except he has old Georges personality in his prime. So why all the hate? Why is it, that whenever his name appears on this forum, an army of people post childish pet names for him, or dedicate entire profile emojis to insulting him? The hate is real, passionate, and deep seeded. After a quick review, I realized many of the people who hated Mayweather, and posted craziness on this site at the simple mention of his name, have now transferred the hate to Wilder, splice in some keyboard warrior nationalists from the UK, and you have the biggest wagon of haters in all of sports, I think Tom Brady might compare, but the Wilder hate is worldwide. Why is this? Well, he is African American, outspoken, and rich, just like Mayweather was, Wilder will never be Mayweather in the ring, but he has filled the gap outside of it. Look for yourself, look at every Wilder article comment section that quotes him on the record being confident over the last two years, that research makes my point for me. Wilder represents something that people have had an issue with since Jack Johnson boxed, he is not demur, he is not quiet, he does not accept knowing him place, and because of that, he is hated. AJ is not seen as a brotha the same way Wilder is, which is why most of his fanbase is white, which is fine, but the truth. Wilder might not be the next big thing, and he certainly is not Ali, but right now, he is the most explosive, physically talented HW since the 70's, mabye further back than that, and on top of that, he is a good dude, ask around, see what other people say, he is beloved by the boxing community, even his opponents. Do me a favor, imagine if Wilder was white, what would the reaction to his rampage over the HW division be? Different than all of this chaos I can promise you that. Half of the reason floyd made so much money, was because of race, look at his opponents, the biggest fights were against white, or mexican fighters, race fueled those promotions, and many of the haters that flocked to Mayweathers name whenever it was evoked. Wilder is not perfect, but all in all, he is a good dude, the hate towards him is tribal, irrational, certainly not based on who he is as a person, more based on what he looks like, and his confidence in himself. Similarities are; 1. Undefeated 2. Outspoken 3. Large social media following 4. Controversial Wilder is now starting to get bigger purses and more money.....

Wilder has gotten more popular as of late, but I don't believe he's anywhere close to Floyd popularity yet. And he's in the back 9 of his career already I feel like so he's not got a long time to reach that level. I don't see it now or happening in the future. I think he can continue to get more popular doe. Heavyweight careers are a bit different, though. Vitali and Wladimir both fought into their early 40's (with neither looking all that spent in their final fights), and Lennox got to his late 30s before walking away as undisputed champion. Barring injury, Wilder easily has a good 5-7 prime years before decline maybe comes in (and Wilder's style, plus the minimal wear of an amateur career, may extend that prime window by a couple of years). Floyd's run, as profitable as it's been, only ran 8 years from Oscar to Berto, before Floyd basically positioned himself for high-profile exhibitions for the rest of his run (Conor, Tenshin, etc if the money is right). Not saying he has the same run, but don't dismiss it

Well I’ve seen plenty of hate comments for both of them because they have domestic cases

I don't believe much of what you said is true. Wilder isn't much like Floyd as a boxer or a person. Mayweather is a much better fighter with far more accomplishments. Mayweather fought much better competition from The start and Wilder spent most of his years as champion fighting guys boxrec ranked between 20th and 40th before he finally fought Ortiz and Fury. Mayweather made many times more money and was a lot quieter and layed back than Wilder who seems to be yelling all the time. I think you make too big a deal of Wilder getting hate because he is black. I am white and I don't hate him. He is great to watch because he hits so hard and fast. The things I don't like are all his yelling and bragging and sometimes disrespecting other boxers and that would not change if he was white. Anyway he has stepped up the quality of his opponents and become a good champion I can root for. I hope he knocks Fury out and I think he will.

I like Wilder better than Floyd. He fought the best in the Division Already. Floyd will put a lot of obstacles before he fought the top opponents.

Deontay Wilder has quickly become one of the biggest boxing stars of the last 15 years, perhaps longer than that. It has been decades since the Heavyweight division has seen a fighter with the personality, and the physical talent of Wilder. His story is amazing, got into boxing because of his daughter's illness, won a Bronze Medal with virtually zero experience, and quickly developed into one of the greatest knockout artist boxing has ever seen. Wilder's lack of experience has always been evident, so what he has done, with all the so called prospects that have crashed and burned is remarkable. Wilder is the new George Foreman, except he has old Georges personality in his prime. So why all the hate? Why is it, that whenever his name appears on this forum, an army of people post childish pet names for him, or dedicate entire profile emojis to insulting him? The hate is real, passionate, and deep seeded. After a quick review, I realized many of the people who hated Mayweather, and posted craziness on this site at the simple mention of his name, have now transferred the hate to Wilder, splice in some keyboard warrior nationalists from the UK, and you have the biggest wagon of haters in all of sports, I think Tom Brady might compare, but the Wilder hate is worldwide. Why is this? Well, he is African American, outspoken, and rich, just like Mayweather was, Wilder will never be Mayweather in the ring, but he has filled the gap outside of it. Look for yourself, look at every Wilder article comment section that quotes him on the record being confident over the last two years, that research makes my point for me. Wilder represents something that people have had an issue with since Jack Johnson boxed, he is not demur, he is not quiet, he does not accept knowing him place, and because of that, he is hated. AJ is not seen as a brotha the same way Wilder is, which is why most of his fanbase is white, which is fine, but the truth. Wilder might not be the next big thing, and he certainly is not Ali, but right now, he is the most explosive, physically talented HW since the 70's, mabye further back than that, and on top of that, he is a good dude, ask around, see what other people say, he is beloved by the boxing community, even his opponents. Do me a favor, imagine if Wilder was white, what would the reaction to his rampage over the HW division be? Different than all of this chaos I can promise you that. Half of the reason floyd made so much money, was because of race, look at his opponents, the biggest fights were against white, or mexican fighters, race fueled those promotions, and many of the haters that flocked to Mayweathers name whenever it was evoked. Wilder is not perfect, but all in all, he is a good dude, the hate towards him is tribal, irrational, certainly not based on who he is as a person, more based on what he looks like, and his confidence in himself. Wilder's self confidence is fake, just an act that he's started to put on for the cameras. If he was really that confident in himself he would have tried to unify with the other belt holders in his division and he wouldn't have ducked fights with Wlad, AJ and Dillian Whyte. Mayweather's career was defined by his ability to transcend boxing and sell millions of US PPVs against just about anybody. Wilder's only PPV fight got disappointing numbers and most of the fans who paid for it were more interested in his opponent than him. Wilder's last fight wasn't PPV and was watched by only around a million viewers in the US. Mayweather's last fight sold over 4million PPVs at $100 a pop. You really couldn't find another US world title holder more unlike Mayweather than Wilder if you tried And that's without even mentioning their resumes and achievements in the ring, which are like night and day in comparison to each other.

No, just no..Floyd actually beat Hall of fame boxers, p4p elite boxers and other ATG's..he was more then a loud mouth, the guy dedicated his entire life to this sport You’re right. Floyd can articulate a sentence. Wilder doesn’t have that ability. Besides the obvious inferior resume in the ring, wilder is nothing like Floyd out of the ring and not even 10% as popular. One of the worst threads I’ve seen to be honest