Ca$hnelo making less $ for Derevyanchenko mando

The way Floyd's contract with Showtime worked doesn't tell us anything at all about Canelo's contract with DAZN. There is no connection between them. DAZN was looking to launch their sports channel on the strength of Canelo's starpower. Showtime/CBS was looking to launch as the premier boxing channel in the US on the strength of Floyd's starpower. Showtime/CBS had 30 months and 6 fights to launch with Floyd; DAZN was said to have 4 years and 10 fights to launch with Canelo. See the situations as different if you want

Dazn is such a joke

I don't have the articles saved (you can look them up if you want to), but the near entire talk about the deal when it was announced was of how Canelo signed the biggest deal in sports (10 fights, $350m), how DAZN was now a player in the boxing game, and how DAZN was going to rise and kill PPV on the shoulders of Saul "Canelo" Alvarez. No mention of opponents (DAZN did have Demetrius Andrade signed, but the closing of HBO Boxing had folks immediately guessing that Golovkin was on the list), no mention of how many fights per year (though fighting Fielding in December had folks thinking that Alvarez was looking to fight more than twice per year), no mention of anything much else really. Similar to the Floyd deal, Showtime/CBS rolled out their announcement that they'd signed Mayweather to a 6-fight, 30 month deal (value wasn't initially put forward, but $200m-$250m was the range that folks got in their minds; basically needed 6 1m PPV buys events to cover the guarantee), and left it at that. With Floyd moving, and Haymon on the outside with HBO and having a budding relationship with Showtime, the rest of the operation went with Floyd. Showtime/CBS didn't have an opponent's list in hand, but I bet that they were quietly hoping that maybe the Pacquiao fight would finally happen. 6 bullets in the chamber, Showtime/CBS got a 50/50 share of the Pacquiao fight, the Alvarez fight, a surprisingly entertaining Maidana1 fight, a so-so Maidana2 fight, and basically two duds in the Berto fight to close and Guerrero fight to open. The owed money was more than covered though, Showtime ended up using the heat around Mayweather to basically build their entire boxing offering, and their great relationship with Mayweather then set the stage to handle Mayweather-McGregor (between Showtime keeping the HD fee, and the ~7% on the actual PPV share, Showtime likely made $50m-$60m on the fight, less the money they spent pushing everything). DAZN paid Canelo for 10 bullets, with 1 chambered. Fielding was in the chamber, the Jacobs fight was the first bullet, and now there are nine more. Maybe they get Golovkin, maybe they don't, but that's not their call. The way Floyd's contract with Showtime worked doesn't tell us anything at all about Canelo's contract with DAZN. There is no connection between them.

Because both parties agreed to it. Both parties, who? Canelo didn't agree to ****; maybe DAZN/Golovkin have an issue now, but the most that was ever said about Golovkin's deal was that it was $100m over 6 fights, with the biggest chunk of the payout coming on a potential Canelo fight. If DAZN told Golovkin anything beyond "one of your six fights will be Canelo", then they screwed themselves

So when Canelo signed with DAZN, was it made publicly available that his first fight would be Rocky Fielding for $15million, then $35million each for whoever else after that?? I don't have the articles saved (you can look them up if you want to), but the near entire talk about the deal when it was announced was of how Canelo signed the biggest deal in sports (10 fights, $350m), how DAZN was now a player in the boxing game, and how DAZN was going to rise and kill PPV on the shoulders of Saul "Canelo" Alvarez. No mention of opponents (DAZN did have Demetrius Andrade signed, but the closing of HBO Boxing had folks immediately guessing that Golovkin was on the list), no mention of how many fights per year (though fighting Fielding in December had folks thinking that Alvarez was looking to fight more than twice per year), no mention of anything much else really. Similar to the Floyd deal, Showtime/CBS rolled out their announcement that they'd signed Mayweather to a 6-fight, 30 month deal (value wasn't initially put forward, but $200m-$250m was the range that folks got in their minds; basically needed 6 1m PPV buys events to cover the guarantee), and left it at that. With Floyd moving, and Haymon on the outside with HBO and having a budding relationship with Showtime, the rest of the operation went with Floyd. Showtime/CBS didn't have an opponent's list in hand, but I bet that they were quietly hoping that maybe the Pacquiao fight would finally happen. 6 bullets in the chamber, Showtime/CBS got a 50/50 share of the Pacquiao fight, the Alvarez fight, a surprisingly entertaining Maidana1 fight, a so-so Maidana2 fight, and basically two duds in the Berto fight to close and Guerrero fight to open. The owed money was more than covered though, Showtime ended up using the heat around Mayweather to basically build their entire boxing offering, and their great relationship with Mayweather then set the stage to handle Mayweather-McGregor (between Showtime keeping the HD fee, and the ~7% on the actual PPV share, Showtime likely made $50m-$60m on the fight, less the money they spent pushing everything). DAZN paid Canelo for 10 bullets, with 1 chambered. Fielding was in the chamber, the Jacobs fight was the first bullet, and now there are nine more. Maybe they get Golovkin, maybe they don't, but that's not their call.

GGG priced himself out of this fight the second he started to cry about moving the fight away from Vegas. He knew that was non-negotiable. Interesting. So GGG insisting on a venue where he would get fair judging is "pricing himself out" There's a reason why Canelo would rather lose some his DAZN money than fight Golovkin outside Vegas.

Not surprised

Why not? Tyson Fury is sitting there, right now, set to head into his second bull**** fight, allegedly with his agreed money on a possible Wilder fight already agreed to. Golovkin is in no different a spot; he's signed for a 6 fight deal, with five fights at one agreed to rate, and a possible Alvarez fight set at a different rate. Because both parties agreed to it.

GGG and Canelo were both paid well for easy intro fights with DAZN. GGG got Rolls and Canelo got Fielding. The idea was obviously to set up a fight between GGG and the winner of Canelo vs Jacobs. GGG was ready to keep his side of the bargain, but Canelo wasn't. GGG priced himself out of this fight the second he started to cry about moving the fight away from Vegas. He knew that was non-negotiable.

I doubt he's losing sleep if its $10M less. Canelo didn't like that PED sh^t GGG brought up & I tend to believe thats the problem here so Canelo losing $5M or $10M or w/e is a W in Canelo's book if GGG doesn't get paid $20M or w/e for fighting him. I think you're right. Golovkin kicked Alvarez when he was down and he hasn't forgotten. But only a diva would use "hurt pride" as an excuse not to fight his main rival and #1 contender. I'm sure Alvarez is OK with hurting GGG financially and also with delaying the fight another year. Just maybe Alvarez is also happy walking away 1-0-1, and thinks he's got nothing to gain with a 3rd fight.

Simply stated what's been publicly available about the deal. If you have different information, share it So when Canelo signed with DAZN, was it made publicly available that his first fight would be Rocky Fielding for $15million, then $35million each for whoever else after that??

Guys like you talking about the details of Canelo's contract like you read it with a lawyer sitting next to you explaining what everything means make me lol. Simply stated what's been publicly available about the deal. If you have different information, share it

... this "Derevyanchenko situation" just shows that Canelo signed a very good contract... even if he makes "only" $25-30 million... :)

GGG and Canelo were both paid well for easy intro fights with DAZN. GGG got Rolls and Canelo got Fielding. The idea was obviously to set up a fight between GGG and the winner of Canelo vs Jacobs. GGG was ready to keep his side of the bargain, but Canelo wasn't.

He won't be fighting any Rolls level bums, that's for sure. No, just killers like Rocky "Fall down" Fielding. He wants to fight Kovalev ... 36 years old, 3 losses in his last 6 fights, with an alcohol problem, but is ignoring call outs from Bivol, who even offered to go down to 168 for him. But that's ok, Ca$hnelo earns more money than any other fighter, so he can do no wrong It's astonishing to see boxing fans behaving like females looking for a husband .. worshiping a guy because of his bank balance.

Clenelo Alvaroid is a drug cheat and ugly ginger :dance:

At the end of Nelo's contract (barring anything outrageous), he will have received every penny. Probably more. Not if he doesn't keep his side of the deal.

They all require the athlete to keep their side of the deal in order to get the money they have been guaranteed. They are no different than any other employment contract in that respect. Here in the UK there have been multiple examples of football players being "fined" by their club - which means having their guaranteed salary docked - for refusing to play in certain games, going out clubbing the night before a game, not turning up for training sessions, etc. Happens often here. It’s not uncommon to hear some absurd NFL contract where they say “60 million over three years, with 20 million guaranteed”

Nelo will get whatever cash he loses this fight in future fights. The contracted amount in set in stone. Another contract you’ve seen? Most sports contracts aren’t 100% guaranteed Money. They have stipulations. They all require the athlete to keep their side of the deal in order to get the money they have been guaranteed. They are no different than any other employment contract in that respect. Here in the UK there have been multiple examples of football players being "fined" by their club - which means having their guaranteed salary docked - for refusing to play in certain games, going out clubbing the night before a game, not turning up for training sessions, etc.

It's not more money though. Canelo signed for 11 fights and $365m; $15m to fight Rocky Fielding, and then $35m for each of the remaining 10 fights. It's the same money, lol Guys like you talking about the details of Canelo's contract like you read it with a lawyer sitting next to you explaining what everything means make me lol.