Whyte passed all vada and wbc tests
He had an adverse finding with ukad but because it’s so so tiny and he passed
Everything else. There’s nothing more to it which is why they let the fight go on and Whyte is innocent. Nothing else will be heard from this
You seen the YouTube videos from the ldbc
If Whyte is innocent why does he have legal advisors ?
Like wtf is that about ? At a hearing, he obviously has to have them
Whyte is owed an apology, wilder fans and anti Hearn haters jumped on this because they found a way to keep wilder safe, a man who has metal in his hands which he punches may I add. Yet Whyte is the cheat
the important investigation should be into UKAD, the bbboc, and eddie hearn, to see how much money in a paper bag exchanged hands for this to get covered up. it took an american journalist for this to even make it public.
you don't wait for an "investigation" and allow a fight to continue. this keeps happening. no fighter at HW will take his titles to the UK until this is resolved.
UKAD and WADA were both involved in testing. It was only the UKAD test which came back positive and they acted as per their policies. There was nothing back handed which occurred, unless you can prove it?
This is no excuse for Wilder to duck AJ :) as you are alluding to.
I am not stating that Whyte is innocent, nor that he is guilty.
My post is to highlight the procedures involved and how they were followed by all the various organisations responsible for this fight.
WHyte's innocence and guilt is based upon on the investigation which is to follow.
the important investigation should be into UKAD, the bbboc, and eddie hearn, to see how much money in a paper bag exchanged hands for this to get covered up. it took an american journalist for this to even make it public.
you don't wait for an "investigation" and allow a fight to continue. this keeps happening. no fighter at HW will take his titles to the UK until this is resolved.
Whyte passed all vada and wbc tests
He had an adverse finding with ukad but because it’s so so tiny and he passed
Everything else. There’s nothing more to it which is why they let the fight go on and Whyte is innocent. Nothing else will be heard from this
You seen the YouTube videos from the ldbc
If Whyte is innocent why does he have legal advisors ?
Like wtf is that about ? At a hearing, he obviously has to have them
Whyte is owed an apology, wilder fans and anti Hearn haters jumped on this because they found a way to keep wilder safe, a man who has metal in his hands which he punches may I add. Yet Whyte is the cheat
:rofl: :rofl: :rofl:
Exactly
Whyte is innocent and it’s the haters jumping on him who want to see a man fall
Who worked so hard
I am not stating that Whyte is innocent, nor that he is guilty.
My post is to highlight the procedures involved and how they were followed by all the various organisations responsible for this fight.
WHyte's innocence and guilt is based upon on the investigation which is to follow.
Have you got some links for this, man - specially the first bolded section?
I've been working on the assumption that UKAD was actually working to WADA protocols - or as near as makes no difference. That's quite a significant departure if true...
I have referred to the UKAD regs a few times in the last few days, but I guess I musta missed that one.
I got this information from an article published, which I THINK I read on this site, or maybe somewhere on Sky. I can't remember. I'll probably look up their regulations when I have mor etime.
Oh yeah... probably just worth linking in the UKAD rules just for anyone to reference. Never hurts to have easy access to reference information:
https://www.ukad.org.uk/sites/default/files/2019-06/uk_anti-doping_rules.pdf
And the WADA prohibited list:
https://www.ukad.org.uk/sites/default/files/2019-04/WADA%20Prohibited%20List.pdf
And the WADA code:
https://www.wada-ama.org/sites/default/files/resources/files/wada_anti-doping_code_2019_english_final_revised_v1_linked.pdf
Ah now this is significant:
The BBBoC regulations on doping don't really need linking:
http://bbbofc.com/content/british-boxing-board-control-anti-doping-regulations
Area:
Head Office
BRITISH BOXING BOARD OF CONTROL ANTI-DOPING REGULATIONS
With regard to the above, United Kingdom Anti-Doping undertake all anti-doping procedures on behalf of the British Boxing Board of Control and any subsequent findings, decisions, suspensions and sanctions are upheld by the British Boxing Board of Control in line with United Kingdom Anti-Doping.
No further comment will be made at this time.
Hmmm... that bolded sentence is an odd phrase to include in a policy statement or rules document. Is there some way of finding out if that's been recently amended?:thinking:
UKAD has a quantifiable limit acording to its policy and with regards to dianabol metabolites (epimethandienone and hydroxymethandienone),Whyte's sample was below that limit. This means the amount was small enough that it could have come from any other source than a direct dianobol ingestion (although it does not rule it out).
UKAD does not invoke any sanction, nor does it ask the BBBoC to do so until the B sample has been tested. It was not tested prior to the fight. Procedures were followed and all relevant parties notified of this.
With WADA, testing is not quantifiable but qualitative, meaning that any presence of epimethandienone and hydroxymethandienone, or other such metabolites. However, the sample which tested positive was under UKAD testing, not WADA.
Both fighters underwent VADA testing, in conjunction with WBC rules. VADA itself does not adjudicate results, it is simply there to notify all involved parties and according to VADA and WBC regulations, both camps should have been notified. If Rivas was not, it is not the fault of the BBBoC, UKAD or Hearn.
What all of this ultimately means is that the B sample results will now be inspected, everyone has to wait for what comes back and only then can a correct decision be made regarding Whyte, his test and his future.
Have you got some links for this, man - specially the first bolded section?
I've been working on the assumption that UKAD was actually working to WADA protocols - or as near as makes no difference. That's quite a significant departure if true...
I have referred to the UKAD regs a few times in the last few days, but I guess I musta missed that one.
Exactly
Whyte is innocent and it’s the haters jumping on him who want to see a man fall
Who worked so hard
How can he be innocent if he just failed a test.
Your just dirty all the UK heavies are taking Ls this year.
Whyte is a certified drug cheat.
Not once but twice now he has been caught using illegal substances.
Dillian needs to be dropped from the rankings.
It's only fair.
BTW-Wilder would have destroyed Whyte in the ring, he should count himself lucky he doesn't have to be knocked out by the Bronze bomber now.
UKAD has a quantifiable limit acording to its policy and with regards to dianabol metabolites (epimethandienone and hydroxymethandienone),Whyte's sample was below that limit. This means the amount was small enough that it could have come from any other source than a direct dianobol ingestion (although it does not rule it out).
UKAD does not invoke any sanction, nor does it ask the BBBoC to do so until the B sample has been tested. It was not tested prior to the fight. Procedures were followed and all relevant parties notified of this.
With WADA, testing is not quantifiable but qualitative, meaning that any presence of epimethandienone and hydroxymethandienone, or other such metabolites. However, the sample which tested positive was under UKAD testing, not WADA.
Both fighters underwent VADA testing, in conjunction with WBC rules. VADA itself does not adjudicate results, it is simply there to notify all involved parties and according to VADA and WBC regulations, both camps should have been notified. If Rivas was not, it is not the fault of the BBBoC, UKAD or Hearn.
What all of this ultimately means is that the B sample results will now be inspected, everyone has to wait for what comes back and only then can a correct decision be made regarding Whyte, his test and his future.
Exactly
Whyte is innocent and it’s the haters jumping on him who want to see a man fall
Who worked so hard
We have no idea what was presented to the anti doping panel to let him fight.
The metabolites found from dbol aren't quantitive, as in there is no allowable limit from what I have read.
Facts will come out, there will be a reason why he was allowed to fight, will everyone believe it's fair, maybe, maybe not. But this is far from over and you making things up and wishing it away won't make it so.
Also I was just kidding about maybe everyone will think the panels decision is fair, that absolutely won't happen.
UKAD has a quantifiable limit acording to its policy and with regards to dianabol metabolites (epimethandienone and hydroxymethandienone),Whyte's sample was below that limit. This means the amount was small enough that it could have come from any other source than a direct dianobol ingestion (although it does not rule it out).
UKAD does not invoke any sanction, nor does it ask the BBBoC to do so until the B sample has been tested. It was not tested prior to the fight. Procedures were followed and all relevant parties notified of this.
With WADA, testing is not quantifiable but qualitative, meaning that any presence of epimethandienone and hydroxymethandienone, or other such metabolites. However, the sample which tested positive was under UKAD testing, not WADA.
Both fighters underwent VADA testing, in conjunction with WBC rules. VADA itself does not adjudicate results, it is simply there to notify all involved parties and according to VADA and WBC regulations, both camps should have been notified. If Rivas was not, it is not the fault of the BBBoC, UKAD or Hearn.
What all of this ultimately means is that the B sample results will now be inspected, everyone has to wait for what comes back and only then can a correct decision be made regarding Whyte, his test and his future.
According to the regulations set out by UKAD and BBBoC, along with other organisations, whyte could not have been banned, suspended or the fight postponed.
Did he take something? We do not know.
Was he within the limits set by the regulations? Yes.
Do we move on? Yes.
Is wilder a hypocrite? Most definitely.
We have no idea what was presented to the anti doping panel to let him fight.
The metabolites found from dbol aren't quantitive, as in there is no allowable limit from what I have read.
Facts will come out, there will be a reason why he was allowed to fight, will everyone believe it's fair, maybe, maybe not. But this is far from over and you making things up and wishing it away won't make it so.
Also I was just kidding about maybe everyone will think the panels decision is fair, that absolutely won't happen.
This thread will be bumped if Whyte is found guilty. Why don’t you stop talking for a second and sit back and see what happens.
Your bias bull***** gets in the way of reality.
And the way whytes been carrying on about PEDS with other fighters who haven’t been found guilty, he brings all the hate upon himself. He is such a whiny fighter, cut from the cloth of Malignaggi.
The ldbc need to follow this
Thats exactly what the LDBC need to do instead of being racist liars.
I don’t know who or what the LdBC is, but you need to quit your whining and understand the Dillian Whyte is up ***** creek (and rightfully so)
Do not deflect it, understand that it’s on Dillian. And if he’s guilty, he deserves all the **** he’ll get
This thread will be bumped if Whyte is found guilty. Why don’t you stop talking for a second and sit back and see what happens.
Your bias bull***** gets in the way of reality.
And the way whytes been carrying on about PEDS with other fighters who haven’t been found guilty, he brings all the hate upon himself. He is such a whiny fighter, cut from the cloth of Malignaggi.
Thats exactly what the LDBC need to do instead of being racist liars.
The LDBC just want the downfall of anything none PBC and none black and will jump on anything and take it in their own direction and lay in to it as hard as they can. I will listen to the proper authorities and people in the game over those racist inbreds.
Whyte passed all vada and wbc tests
He had an adverse finding with ukad but because it’s so so tiny and he passed
Everything else. There’s nothing more to it which is why they let the fight go on and Whyte is innocent. Nothing else will be heard from this
You seen the YouTube videos from the ldbc
If Whyte is innocent why does he have legal advisors ?
Like wtf is that about ? At a hearing, he obviously has to have them
Whyte is owed an apology, wilder fans and anti Hearn haters jumped on this because they found a way to keep wilder safe, a man who has metal in his hands which he punches may I add. Yet Whyte is the cheat
This thread will be bumped if Whyte is found guilty. Why don’t you stop talking for a second and sit back and see what happens.
Your bias bull***** gets in the way of reality.
And the way whytes been carrying on about PEDS with other fighters who haven’t been found guilty, he brings all the hate upon himself. He is such a whiny fighter, cut from the cloth of Malignaggi.
According to the regulations set out by UKAD and BBBoC, along with other organisations, whyte could not have been banned, suspended or the fight postponed.
Did he take something? We do not know.
Was he within the limits set by the regulations? Yes.
Do we move on? Yes.
Is wilder a hypocrite? Most definitely.