Whyte popped for multiple drugs

WTF are you on? I'm not mad. You are just a **** coming in here acting like its chemistry. **** off *******. I didn't even say it was chemistry, I said it's common sense. You just got mad because I used a word like chemistry haha how insecure are you about your intelligence bud?

This thread was made well before the info was released, I'm impressed he even knew that they found two banned substances on the test, must've been a decent source. Stop nitpicking you absolute goon. You're a tool and you're being overly defensive because you're salty over this clearly. I'm a Whyte fan but I turned on that pr.ick the second I heard he popped. I know he has previous so this was always going to end badly. Why not just accept reality and move on now? No need to be mad over it. WTF are you on? I'm not mad. You are just a **** coming in here acting like its chemistry. **** off *******.

lol, ok there smart ass. One intake of NA leaves 3 metabolites. Does that mean he is guilty of 3 substances? Again you are being a ****. That wasn't what was reported. What was reported was one substance or more, at that time. The OP made this thread saying he was busted with two substances. I asked him early what substance. He could not answer that because he made it up, assuming there'd be two. It wasn't until later that the actual info was released that we now know. The point is, you can't go around saying stuff as fact when you guessed. WHAT the ****, why you even in this? This thread was made well before the info was released, I'm impressed he even knew that they found two banned substances on the test, must've been a decent source. Stop nitpicking you absolute goon. You're a tool and you're being overly defensive because you're salty over this clearly. I'm a Whyte fan but I turned on that pr.ick the second I heard he popped. I know he has previous so this was always going to end badly. Why not just accept reality and move on now? No need to be mad over it.

The metabolites are banned substances too, I don't think you understand, that's two banned substances. It's entirely factual to report it as such because that's what was found. Uppity ha, that's a peach that one. Nice one trying to use double speak though, how Orwellian of you. lol, ok there smart ass. One intake of NA leaves 3 metabolites. Does that mean he is guilty of 3 substances? Again you are being a ****. That wasn't what was reported. What was reported was one substance or more, at that time. The OP made this thread saying he was busted with two substances. I asked him early what substance. He could not answer that because he made it up, assuming there'd be two. It wasn't until later that the actual info was released that we now know. The point is, you can't go around saying stuff as fact when you guessed. WHAT the ****, why you even in this?

:no: lol, really? The metabolites are the evidence left behind from one substance, in this case dianabol. It's the sane for nandralone and the others. It doesn't mean they took multiple substances. Nandralone for instance, leaves 3 metabolites behind. Dbol has even more metabolites. And before you get upity, I was responding to that poster who posted BS info saying Whyte was busted for two drugs before the actual real info was released that it was two metabolites of ONE dbol. When pointed out that he's incorrect at the time, he comes back saying he's vindicated lol. The metabolites are banned substances too, I don't think you understand, that's two banned substances. It's entirely factual to report it as such because that's what was found. Uppity ha, that's a peach that one. Nice one trying to use double speak though, how Orwellian of you.

My gawd, the horse poop. Sanctioning or governing body, those are both defined as the group in control. In other words its the ****ing same difference. Seriously, what the heck is your deal? But oh, they only have to notify the promoter or some such nonsense? And you keep saying you think its bad yet you keep defending them. Seriously? Actually never mind, don't answer that, lol. Sure thing, bud it was getting kinda tedious repeating myself over and over anyway. Your problem is you're interpreting me trying to explain the failings in your argument as taking an opposing stance to you when that wasn't what I was doing at all. Merely pointing out that the problem is wider than just the BBBoC and UKAD - and trying to broaden your knowledge of boxing terminology of course.

No, man... The sanctioning bodies are the guys that hand out the belts... the WBC, WBA the IBF etc... the governing bodies are the official arms of governance that regulate combat sports in the territory in which the fight is to take place. In the US that's your state athletic commissions or their variants under the umbrella of the ABC (Association of Boxing Commissions). in the UK it's the BBBoC in Germany the Bund Deutscher Berufsboxer, in France the Fédération Française de Boxe, etc.. I know folk tend to play fast and loose with the terminology sometimes but these two types of organisations play very different roles in the sport and it's worthwhile using the correct terms otherwise we could end up arguing in circles over a simple misunderstanding. Am I 'down with it'? I've said I'm not - that the opposing fighter needs to be informed, but I've repeatedly pointed out to you that this isn't just the policy of the BBBoC and UKAD but of VADA too and if the various other instance of PED abuse in Germany and elsewhere I've run across are anything to go by, under other jurisdictions too, though I'd require further research to confirm this. What I think you're perhaps not getting is that I'm not defending a state of affairs where a fight could go ahead whilst an investigation is underway, but I do fully understand how and why it happens (basically because it's a corrupt sport that puts the money to be made - and lost - ahead of the wellbeing of the fighters). Ultimately there does need to be some form of due process - which means that in a time period in between a failed test and a full investigation being carried out there's is a period of limbo in which the guilt of the fighter concerned is in doubt and this gives the room for fights to go ahead when a failed test falls relatively close to a fight date. Is it right? - to my mind, no - but this is boxing man, the most corrupt and most poorly overseen major sport in the world. You start a twitter campaign, man, and I'll happily put my name to it... but just... well... maybe actually try to do your research first. My gawd, the horse poop. Sanctioning or governing body, those are both defined as the group in control. In other words its the ****ing same difference. Seriously, what the heck is your deal? But oh, they only have to notify the promoter or some such nonsense? And you keep saying you think its bad yet you keep defending them. Seriously? Actually never mind, don't answer that, lol.

Something is telling me that hes gonna blame hes shampoo.. Has that ever been done before... 🤔

The sanctioning body is the governing body. Seriously, you cannot be down with the way UKAD handles ****. :wave: No, man... The sanctioning bodies are the guys that hand out the belts... the WBC, WBA the IBF etc... the governing bodies are the official arms of governance that regulate combat sports in the territory in which the fight is to take place. In the US that's your state athletic commissions or their variants under the umbrella of the ABC (Association of Boxing Commissions). in the UK it's the BBBoC in Germany the Bund Deutscher Berufsboxer, in France the Fédération Française de Boxe, etc.. I know folk tend to play fast and loose with the terminology sometimes but these two types of organisations play very different roles in the sport and it's worthwhile using the correct terms otherwise we could end up arguing in circles over a simple misunderstanding. Am I 'down with it'? I've said I'm not - that the opposing fighter needs to be informed, but I've repeatedly pointed out to you that this isn't just the policy of the BBBoC and UKAD but of VADA too and if the various other instance of PED abuse in Germany and elsewhere I've run across are anything to go by, under other jurisdictions too, though I'd require further research to confirm this. What I think you're perhaps not getting is that I'm not defending a state of affairs where a fight could go ahead whilst an investigation is underway, but I do fully understand how and why it happens (basically because it's a corrupt sport that puts the money to be made - and lost - ahead of the wellbeing of the fighters). Ultimately there does need to be some form of due process - which means that in a time period in between a failed test and a full investigation being carried out there's is a period of limbo in which the guilt of the fighter concerned is in doubt and this gives the room for fights to go ahead when a failed test falls relatively close to a fight date. Is it right? - to my mind, no - but this is boxing man, the most corrupt and most poorly overseen major sport in the world. You start a twitter campaign, man, and I'll happily put my name to it... but just... well... maybe actually try to do your research first.

Metabolites are still referred to as substances individually. That's not even basic chemistry, that's just common sense. :no: lol, really? The metabolites are the evidence left behind from one substance, in this case dianabol. It's the sane for nandralone and the others. It doesn't mean they took multiple substances. Nandralone for instance, leaves 3 metabolites behind. Dbol has even more metabolites. And before you get upity, I was responding to that poster who posted BS info saying Whyte was busted for two drugs before the actual real info was released that it was two metabolites of ONE dbol. When pointed out that he's incorrect at the time, he comes back saying he's vindicated lol.

Omg, you post that and then misunderstand it, lmao! Metabolites are still referred to as substances individually. That's not even basic chemistry, that's just common sense.

Did you even read the VADA regs I linked? In the first instance they are only required to inform the lead promoter, the fighter who has had the adverse result and the relevant governing body. There is no requirement for them to inform the opposing fighter or the sanctioning body. Even after a preliminary investigation there is still no requirement... informing the opposing fighter and sanctioning org is at VADAs discretion. Damn, man, what's the point in me repeatedly supplying you with links if you don't even bother to read 'em? And no - I've already outlined my stance - I think it's absolutely disgusting that the opposing fighter is not informed... that should 100% be changed and the opposing fighter should be allowed to withdraw without penalty whilst due process occurs. So no, as I've already said about 3 times I think it's absolutely unethical... not quite sure why you seem to be viewing this as some sort of confrontation. On the question of whether the relevant sanctioning organisation should be informed I'm ambivalent.. probably they should be kept in the loop but once again it's not them who make the decision on whether to allow the fight to go ahead or on what punitive action should be taken so their involvement is of secondary importance. The sanctioning body is the governing body. Seriously, you cannot be down with the way UKAD handles ****. :wave:

Do you think their rules or whatever BS they call their rules ethical? WHAT IS THE FKING POINT OF ANTIDOPING IF YOU ALLOW DOPERS TO FIGHT AFTER YOU HAVE CAUGHT THEM??????? This is pure negligence and corruption. Are you stoned? This is a UKAD/BBBoC problem. VADA guidelines dictate the sanctioning body and the fighter at risk, in this case Rivas. How the **** is this a VADA problem too? Did you even read the VADA regs I linked? In the first instance they are only required to inform the lead promoter, the fighter who has had the adverse result and the relevant governing body. There is no requirement for them to inform the opposing fighter or the sanctioning body. Even after a preliminary investigation there is still no requirement... informing the opposing fighter and sanctioning org is at VADAs discretion. Damn, man, what's the point in me repeatedly supplying you with links if you don't even bother to read 'em? And no - I've already outlined my stance - I think it's absolutely disgusting that the opposing fighter is not informed... that should 100% be changed and the opposing fighter should be allowed to withdraw without penalty whilst due process occurs. So no, as I've already said about 3 times I think it's absolutely unethical... not quite sure why you seem to be viewing this as some sort of confrontation. On the question of whether the relevant sanctioning organisation should be informed I'm ambivalent.. probably they should be kept in the loop but once again it's not them who make the decision on whether to allow the fight to go ahead or on what punitive action should be taken so their involvement is of secondary importance.

Whyte held hearing & said nothing Whyte is a goddamn joke and so is his fans and protectors. Whyte/Hearn held a hearing morning of fight & still told rivas anything about him juicing https://www.dailymail.co.uk/sport/boxing/article-7286857/Boxing-news-Dillian-Whyte-underwent-hearing-doping-panel-hours-win-Rivas.html

Whyte is a goddamn joke and so is his fans and protectors.

Omg, you post that and then misunderstand it, lmao! As I said the reports I originally referenced were truthful when they reported that he popped for multiple substances(substances that are banned seperately from each other by wada & as bsn reported even if substances are a byproduct of something else each detected metabolite still counts as a seperate substance because had he popped for only 1 of the 2 or popped for 1 of the other metabolites that this roid leaves behind he still would be banned just the same ) & I wouldn't be at all surprised if he fails another test or they find more drugs even. Are you aware this roid leaves behind multiple metabolites including several not listed as him popping dirty for? Since he only popped dirty for so far 2 of the substances left behind by a certain roid,it shows why each is treated as its own substance sometimes fighters pop for only 1 metabolite substance not & the rest

I read that but I also read just a few minutes ago that UKAD had refused to confirm. Not doubting you but I'm also not knowing the original source, given that the agency performing the test is officially still mum. At this point with all their sordid history, I could care less what UKAD says.

As I wrote he was caught for two metabolites of dianabol, or dbol for short. I read that but I also read just a few minutes ago that UKAD had refused to confirm. Not doubting you but I'm also not knowing the original source, given that the agency performing the test is officially still mum.

Yesterday, July 24, BoxingScene.com reported that an "A" sample taken from Dillian Whyte by United Kingdom Anti-Doping (UKAD) tested positive for one or more banned substances prior to Whyte's July 20 fight in London against Oscar Rivas. BoxingScene has now confirmed that the substances were epimethandienone and hydroxymethandienone,(2 substances:dunce:) two metabolites of the banned drug Dianabol. A metabolite is a byproduct of the body breaking down or metabolizing a drug into a different substance. When a drug is leaving the user's system, it leaves these intermediate end products He was popped for 2 seperate banned substances regardless of semantics,both metabolites he was popped for are banned that's all that matters. It proves that the reports of him being popped with multiple substances was true so stfu Omg, you post that and then misunderstand it, lmao!

Do us a favor and stop posting. It was one drug, dbol. You don't know crap about it obviously. As it leaves the body it leaves markers. There were two traces detected of these markers. It's NOT TWO SUBSTANCES dumbass. Yesterday, July 24, BoxingScene.com reported that an "A" sample taken from Dillian Whyte by United Kingdom Anti-Doping (UKAD) tested positive for one or more banned substances prior to Whyte's July 20 fight in London against Oscar Rivas. BoxingScene has now confirmed that the substances were epimethandienone and hydroxymethandienone,(2 substances:dunce:) two metabolites of the banned drug Dianabol. A metabolite is a byproduct of the body breaking down or metabolizing a drug into a different substance. When a drug is leaving the user's system, it leaves these intermediate end products He was popped for 2 seperate banned substances regardless of semantics,both metabolites he was popped for are banned that's all that matters. It proves that the reports of him being popped with multiple substances was true so stfu