Thurman landed more punches than Pacquiao

revelated is stealing my thread ideas.

Bottim line, using just CompuBox to score fights is as ridiculous as using facial damage.

The stats are usually BS. They can give an idea but will not hold up as proof. That said, I doubt Thurman did more damage to Pac then Margarito did. Margarito hurt a prime Pac badly whereas a 40yr old Pac shrugged off Thurman's power shots.

It's clean punching. Stop trying to invent new criteria. And I don't use CompuBox to score fights. Period. https://coolmaterial.com/feature/how-to-score-a-boxing-match/ Hard and Clean Punches – To the untrained eye, it can appear as if a boxer is landing a lot of shots, when, in fact, most are being blocked or aren’t landing flush. A judge needs to look for hard shots that land clean. No wonder you been scoring your fights wrong.

compubox and unofficial scorecards are for casuals... should not even exist ...

Learn the difference between a system and criteria first. Do you agree with compubox when used in a 10-9 point scoring system? BTW, it's clean hard punching. Which kinda takes 80-90% of the Mayweather punches out of the equation when he fought Pacquiao. It's clean punching. Stop trying to invent new criteria. And I don't use CompuBox to score fights. Period.

I agree, that Pac ate way too many clean punches in this fight; I thought Keith beat Manny up and predicted an easy win for Pac but was wrong. Thurman made it a close fight; A fight that was a lot closer than I expected. Moreover, I thought he hurt and rocked Pac several times; Especially in the second half of the fight as Pac was gassing but just didn't have enough mustard to put him away. I am not naive or stupid. I knew that Team Pac took the Thurman fight only because they knew he was no longer prime. Had he been prime then they wouldn't have taken the fight in the first place. They made a very smart business move and the right call. Thats how I saw it too. Manny needed a close rd 12 and a savvy knockdown in the 2nd to win the fight.

If you have to add in a ten-point must/rounds system to make it somewhat accurate then you aren't using solely CompuBox anymore. Might as well add clean punching, effective aggression, ring generalship and defense too. That would make CompuBox even more precise. :lol1: Learn the difference between a system and criteria first. Do you agree with compubox when used in a 10-9 point scoring system? BTW, it's clean hard punching. Which kinda takes 80-90% of the Mayweather punches out of the equation when he fought Pacquiao.

Yet when it is, it churns out results you agree with. If you are going to make points, they have to hold water. If you have to add in a ten-point must/rounds system to make it somewhat accurate then you aren't using solely CompuBox anymore. Might as well add clean punching, effective aggression, ring generalship and defense too. That would make CompuBox even more precise. :lol1:

CompuBox is not a scoring criteria. Which is why I don't worry about it. Unless I'm trying to educate misguided posters on here. Yet when it is, it churns out results you agree with. If you are going to make points, they have to hold water.

Since you like it so much can you tell us what result CompuBox churned out for Floyd vs Pacquiao? Mayweather 118-110. You are against this system though, right:lol1: You go a find a fight where your point can be made.

Why do you think compubox scores the punches round by round then? Compubox is about punch connects. Scoring round by round is not a scoring criteria CompuBox is not a scoring criteria. Which is why I don't worry about it. Unless I'm trying to educate misguided posters on here.

You no clinching is illegal in boxing right? Do you think the rules of boxing should be enforced? Do you also think running backwards gets you extra points :lol1: I had Manny winning 114-113 or 115-112, same as the 2 judges in this fight. I had floyd winning 118-110 same as one judge and 1 and 2 rounds different from the other 2 judges. I had fury over wilder, ward over kovalev 1 , and manny beating Bradley when the judges erroneously have it to Bradley. I know how to score a fight. Even when I don’t like a fighter personally I score by the rules and that is why you scores closely correlate with the scoring of fights by professional judges.

If you're using round-by-round then you're not going just off of CompuBox's total punches landed, are you? :dunce: That's the entire point. Mixing in CompuBox with any other scoring criteria in order to make it more acceptable does not change what I stated. Why do you think compubox scores the punches round by round then? Compubox is about punch connects. Scoring round by round is not a scoring criteria

By hugging him more times than Jinkee? Floyd needs to know you should punch your boxing opponents and hug your girlfriend, not the other way round. Touch jabs, running and hugging was humiliating for boxing. Since you like it so much can you tell us what result CompuBox churned out for Floyd vs Pacquiao?

Rounds are scored individually, but just using the compubox system gets the right result round by round. You point failed. How did you score it. Wider than 115-112? Like it or not compubox churns out than result. Your point was to prove compubox wrong, you failed with this example. If you're using round-by-round then you're not going just off of CompuBox's total punches landed, are you? :dunce: That's the entire point. Mixing in CompuBox with any other scoring criteria in order to make it more acceptable does not change what I stated.

Floyd humiliated Pacquiao and made him look stupid By hugging him more times than Jinkee? Floyd needs to know you should punch your boxing opponents and hug your girlfriend, not the other way round. Touch jabs, running and hugging was humiliating for boxing.

This thread was made to address the people that score fights based on who landed the most punches. If you go back and read the original post that was the whole point. If you use the 10-point must system and score round-by-round and add any other criteria on top of that then my criticism obviously doesn't pertain to you. Rounds are scored individually, but just using the compubox system gets the right result round by round. You point failed. How did you score it. Wider than 115-112? Like it or not compubox churns out than result. Your point was to prove compubox wrong, you failed with this example.

You must know fights are judged on a 10-9 point scoring system round by round? If you apply that do the compubox stats, Pacquiao wins 115-112. Do you agree with that score or did you have it wider? This thread was made to address the people that score fights based on who landed the most punches. If you go back and read the original post that was the whole point. If you use the 10-point must system and score round-by-round and add any other criteria on top of that then my criticism obviously doesn't pertain to you.

When you use your advantages in reach, footwork and skill to put box your opponent that isn’t running and clinching. Running and clinching is what ODH did the last 5 rounds against Tito, barely landing a punch. Floyd landed punches against Manny. This fight showed how great manny is but also makes you realize how great floyd is that he can totally neutralize his offense where a Thurman level boxer couldn’t. You no clinching is illegal in boxing right? Do you think the rules of boxing should be enforced? Do you also think running backwards gets you extra points :lol1: