Oh I'm "retired" now. Hand injuries. I just self train now. Haven't had a match in about 8 years. And cutting the ring off seems to be something that doesn't get taught as much in the higher weights. I fought at 175/79 and 200/91 what about yourself?
I weigh 113 naturally so I can fight at strawweight but I'm in Ireland and the lowest div we have is light flyweight unless I wanna spar kids. I'm not a big fella but I can badly hurt people bigger than me so I have no issues in my weight class whatsoever it actually feels like I'm bullying them often.
Oh I'm "retired" now. Hand injuries. I just self train now. Haven't had a match in about 8 years. And cutting the ring off seems to be something that doesn't get taught as much in the higher weights. I fought at 175/79 and 200/91 what about yourself?
It seems like the shift step has always been associated with the lower weights. Middleweight champion Fitzsimmons used to KO the slick heavyweight champion Corbett back in the 19th century.
Absolutely, if your trainer is more familiar with one particular style and is noticeably limited to knowledge of just that then ye he mightn't know a lot of new or even old terms as a result of that. Like the almost forgotten art of the shift step which is actually really effective at cutting off the ring. It's my secret weapon for when I encounter someone who moves more than I do in the ring which isn't too often but it does happen. All I can is that the balance you gain and leverage you can put on counter hooks if timed correctly will spark out or at least badly wobble any man your size.
Oh I'm "retired" now. Hand injuries. I just self train now. Haven't had a match in about 8 years. And cutting the ring off seems to be something that doesn't get taught as much in the higher weights. I fought at 175/79 and 200/91 what about yourself?
Not to mention (and you kind of touched on it below) styles have changed so much over the last 40 years. Almost everyone now is trained in various techniques.
Absolutely, if your trainer is more familiar with one particular style and is noticeably limited to knowledge of just that then ye he mightn't know a lot of new or even old terms as a result of that. Like the almost forgotten art of the shift step which is actually really effective at cutting off the ring. It's my secret weapon for when I encounter someone who moves more than I do in the ring which isn't too often but it does happen. All I can is that the balance you gain and leverage you can put on counter hooks if timed correctly will spark out or at least badly wobble any man your size.
It depends on your trainer's expertise I wouldn't blame you.
Not to mention (and you kind of touched on it below) styles have changed so much over the last 40 years. Almost everyone now is trained in various techniques.
I only see what I can see... (and I don't even know if what I see is right...) :)
I dunno I haven't been boxing too long myself but I've picked up on all the variations in styles and terms for those pretty quickly. Some guys in fairness have rather indescribable or unique styles that garner their own tagline. I'm just very passionate about the techniques used in boxing, it's something I'm studying and applying constantly. I'm glad I've always learned things quickly.
two of those quoted also used the word "pressure" Why shame only me? hahaha
"pressure fighter" or "swarmer" were both used interchangeably when I was being trained in my youth. (Though I wouldn't call Andy a swarmer, which is why I said he was a "counter punching pressure fighter"
Always happy to learn new terminology though.
It depends on your trainer's expertise I wouldn't blame you.
Or if you know boxing lingo it's called a front foot combination counter puncher.
two of those quoted also used the word "pressure" Why shame only me? hahaha
"pressure fighter" or "swarmer" were both used interchangeably when I was being trained in my youth. (Though I wouldn't call Andy a swarmer, which is why I said he was a "counter punching pressure fighter"
Always happy to learn new terminology though.
Glad to see someone here knows what they're seeing. Most are damn clueless it's hilarious they just repeat phrases they heard from commentators.
I only see what I can see... (and I don't even know if what I see is right...) :)
^^^ ... tbh...................
Glad to see someone here knows what they're seeing. Most are damn clueless it's hilarious they just repeat phrases they heard from commentators.
beat me to it lol. I was gonna go with "Mexicalian Style" though.
To answer OP's question though, I always classified Andy as a pressure fighter with extremely fast hands, and great counter punching skills.
Or if you know boxing lingo it's called a front foot combination counter puncher.
^^^ ... tbh...................One thing he is definitely not and that is an infighter. He is not one to collapse the pocket and fight at short range. He doesn't smother his punches at close range.
Out-boxer, Swarmer, Slugger our Boxer-puncher ?
Or something that can’t really be defined ?
Why don’t you tell us what you think his style is, then I’ll ask my 80 plus year old uncles.
Questions are so easy to ask..
My wife asks questions, I answer.... but she says “but why?”
I ask”why do you ask why, what is the foundation of your questioning”. It’s a but why why you asking why?
State your case.... you tell us your “”whys”.
I can waste peoples time by asking why, and why.
I'd say mid range pressure counter puncher. Has slow feet and waits for opportunities with flurries that aren't really calculated so he throws in bunches .Effective but long power jabbers would east him up who don't fight within distance . Easy fight to win with Ruiz if one works behind a jasb first then everything else second as long as they have speed as well. worked for Parker even though he lost that fight really but he was passive.
He is a mid range boxer/puncher with very fast hands.
He's a front foot combination counter puncher.
He's a calculated pressure fighter. He tries to be very effective with his aggression and to get into positions where he can land 4-5-6 shots in a row whilst maybe dodging 1-2 in the process. Pressure fighter/counter puncher/volume puncher. Very good fighter and also beat Parker imo.
^^^ ... tbh...................
Wait a second hes no longer an unranked bum ready to quit boxing from yesterday ,of course when Joshua was discussed ? :slap:
I never called him a bum.
I said that he was an unranked fighter who was ready to quit boxing before he made AJ look like a ***** But don't trust my "LDBC news sources" here's one of yours
https://www.thesun.co.uk/sport/boxing/9277399/andy-ruiz-jr-quit-boxing-anthony-joshua/
Headline: 'I HAD NO MONEY' Andy Ruiz Jr reveals he almost quit boxing a year before shocking world with Anthony Joshua KO and winning four world titles
TBRB Rankings 1 month before Joshua vs Ruiz
Heavyweight
Champion: Open
1. Anthony Joshua
2. Tyson Fury
3. Deontay Wilder
4. Dillian Whyte
5. Luis Ortiz
6. Alexander Povetkin
7. Kubrat Pulev
8. Joseph Parker
9. Adam Kownacki
10. Oscar Rivas
Ring Rankings 1 month before Joshua vs Ruiz
Heavyweight
Champion: Open
1. Anthony Joshua
2. Tyson Fury
3. Deontay Wilder
4. Dillian Whyte
5. Luis Ortiz
6. Alexander Povetkin
7. Adam Kownacki
8. Kubrat Pulev
9. Joseph Parker
10. Oscar Rivas
You finished being an idiot yet?
Mexican style.
Duh...
beat me to it lol. I was gonna go with "Mexicalian Style" though.
To answer OP's question though, I always classified Andy as a pressure fighter with extremely fast hands, and great counter punching skills.
He's a calculated pressure fighter. He tries to be very effective with his aggression and to get into positions where he can land 4-5-6 shots in a row whilst maybe dodging 1-2 in the process. Pressure fighter/counter puncher/volume puncher. Very good fighter and also beat Parker imo.
Does anyone see some of Mike Tyson in Andy Ruiz?
(It wasn't until other people mentioned Micheal Jordan in comparison to Kawhi Leonard in these recent NBA Playoffs, that I actually saw some of Jordan in Kawhi; similar kind of bounce to his game, soft jumpers, very nuanced)
He’s more measured than Tyson and uses his jab for more than getting into closer range IMO. But again I have only seen his AJ fight. But I generally get the feeling he isn’t as destructive as Tyson was.