Just so the world knows.....

You are absolutely right. No offer has ever been made to Andrade to fight Canelo to date. He doesn't have the slightest idea. He just lives to big up Canelo and trash GGG and DAZN. it was widely reported on multiple sites that Gomez made exploratory offers to Kovalev Munguia and Andrade and Eddie Hearn admitted that the talks took place peace no, wait..... I mean..... fcuk you :D :lol1:

You are full of it. Canelo is free to fight Andrade if he wants to. Canelo just doesn't want to fight Andrade and has made no attempts to fight him or sent him any offers to fight. He just wants GGG to fight Andrade for him. Canelo has made offers to Kovalev and Munguia and Oscar has challenged welterweight Spence to come to middleweight to fight Canelo but no offers have ever been made to Andrade. If Canelo arranges a fight with Andrade DAZN will approve it.But as of now Canelo has shown zero interest in fighting Andrade so there is nothing for DAZN to approve. You always talk as if Canelo is this fearless monster who can never lose a fight. You always talk about GGG as the cowardly pos who can't fight much. Actually Canelo and GGG are equally good as fighters. They have the same fighting ability and neither is a better or worse fighter than the other. This was proven in the two very close wars they fought where there is so much disagreement over who won. Any boxer Canelo can beat GGG can also beat. Any boxer who can beat Canelo can also beat GGG. that is just ignorant rubbish triangle theories do not work in boxing it comes down to styles there is a very good reason why lil'G avoided every single world-class mover/spoiler available..... he never fought one Sanchez admitted that Golovkin is not the same fighter if his opponent does not stand in front of him and that is just boxing101, nothing special there dumb casual

Respectfully disagree. Boxers with small fry promoters like K2 or Dibella can fight their way into a mandatory position and then be forced to sit on the shelf for months or years while they wait for a shot at a big name fighter, but when a guy backed by Al Haymon works his way into a mandatory position, he gets his shot or the champ gets stripped. And that's exactly what happened. Canelo's the WBC's golden child, so they did this smoke-and-mirrors franchise champion nonsense intentionally to create confusion and make it look like he wasn't simply stripped because he had no plans to fight Charlo, but that's how it went. Canelo has no mandatory, the belt they gave him has no weight class, and he can't even lose the belt to fighter that beats him. The media has not bought into this story, and writers like Mannix and Rafael have been quick to point out that this new thing is not a credible title and that Canelo was stripped because he isn't fighting Charlo. He's not undisputed as long as Charlo is the WBC champ. everything you just said..... I said here..... great point hmm..... my thoughts on that..... Andrade cannot become undisputed, so..... I have to agree with you, that fight is not for the Undisputed title..... great point but, Canelo would hold all of the belts, including the WBC..... and he is the highest ranked WBC middleweight he is also clearly a better fighter than Charlo, and more worthy of the title 'WBC Champion' my guess is..... you are 100% correct, but according to media/fans Canelo will become the Undisputed middleweight champion.... because the media/fans love cool stories, and because Canelo will be the highest ranked WBC middleweight just like they accepted Golovkin equaling Hopkins record for middleweight defences, despite Golovkin only defending a junior WBA title that did not exist back when Hopkins was doing his thing personally, I don't care if they do hail Canelo as the Undisputed middleweight champion..... but the WBC really did Canelo no favors with that 'Franchise Champion' stupidity because if Canelo beats Andrade, Charlo really becomes a must-fight opponent for Canelo imho..... considering the fact that Charlo is now a full champion according to the WBC, despite him not actually doing anything Canelo should fight Charlo..... he should have to, and he should want to..... and it could be a real good fight great point also..... to be honest, it is a two-sided question phenom is right..... technically, Canelo will not become Undisputed by beating Andrade..... simply because, Andrade cannot become Undisputed by beating Canelo so it makes no sense at all but what does make perfect sense, is dropping the word "technically" from the sentence above..... because anything that follows the word "technically" is usually bullshlt.....and replacing it with the word "realistically" realistically, Canelo is the highest ranked WBC middleweight..... he is a much better fighter than Charlo..... and he is much more worthy of the title WBC champion but imho, forget the titles and all that bullshlt..... Canelo would need to fight Charlo because he would be the last remaining threat at 160 no big deal if that fight doesn't happen..... but that could be the best remaining fight left on the table, I have no problem with it I had no idea the subject was being so widely debated someone should make a poll I agree with you..... * Andrade cannot become undisputed by beating Canelo..... so how can Canelo become undisputed by beating Andrade? * Charlo is currently the WBC Champion, as per the WBC the problem is this..... FACT: Canelo IS the highest ranked WBC middleweight FACT: Canelo IS a much better fighter than Charlo FACT: Canelo is much more deserving of the title 'WBC Champion' Canelo beat Golovkin, and he is currently the best middleweight on the planet..... EVERYONE know that..... NOBODY believes that Charlo is more deserving, or a better fighter, than Canelo the deniers..... simply do not like Canelo, so will fly with the WBC Franchise "technicality"..... but the media/fans will decide unfortunately this will be another situation where you/I, are sitting there wondering what the fk just happened..... as the media/fans proclaim that Canelo is the undisputed middleweight champion of the world..... just like the media/fans insisted that Golovkin equaled Hopkins record for middleweight defences by defending a junior WBA title that did not even exist back when Hopkins was doing his thing it will happen, whether you and I like it or not stay strong bro

You dont know that they "refused" it. For all you know (which is nothing), Golden Boy has not even submitted Andrade as a possible opponent. You havent the slightest idea. As usual.You are absolutely right. No offer has ever been made to Andrade to fight Canelo to date. He doesn't have the slightest idea. He just lives to big up Canelo and trash GGG and DAZN.

You are full of it. Canelo is free to fight Andrade if he wants to. Canelo just doesn't want to fight Andrade and has made no attempts to fight him or sent him any offers to fight. He just wants GGG to fight Andrade for him. Canelo has made offers to Kovalev and Munguia and Oscar has challenged welterweight Spence to come to middleweight to fight Canelo but no offers have ever been made to Andrade. If Canelo arranges a fight with Andrade DAZN will approve it.But as of now Canelo has shown zero interest in fighting Andrade so there is nothing for DAZN to approve. You always talk as if Canelo is this fearless monster who can never lose a fight. You always talk about GGG as the cowardly pos who can't fight much. Actually Canelo and GGG are equally good as fighters. They have the same fighting ability and neither is a better or worse fighter than the other. This was proven in the two very close wars they fought where there is so much disagreement over who won. Any boxer Canelo can beat GGG can also beat. Any boxer who can beat Canelo can also beat GGG.

Canelo is the highest ranked WBC middleweight so, whether you and I like it or not..... the world will accept Canelo as the undisputed middleweight champion of the world I actually agree with you, for the same reason..... if he goes for Andrade, to become undisputed..... then Charlo becomes a must-fight opponent, because he disputes it also..... not a huge Charlo fan, and I get his lack of credible wins at 160, but he has been waiting..... and waiting..... and waiting..... that would be a good fight, and would literally clean out 160 but yea, Canelo will be regarded by the media/fans as the undisputed lineal middleweight champion of the world, if he beats Andrade..... just like the media/fans accepted that Golovkin drew the middleweight defence record with Hopkins..... despite Gennady only defending a WBA junior title, a lower sub-title that did not even exist back when Hopkins was doing his thing everyone loves a cool story bro..... so it will happen Respectfully disagree. Boxers with small fry promoters like K2 or Dibella can fight their way into a mandatory position and then be forced to sit on the shelf for months or years while they wait for a shot at a big name fighter, but when a guy backed by Al Haymon works his way into a mandatory position, he gets his shot or the champ gets stripped. And that's exactly what happened. Canelo's the WBC's golden child, so they did this smoke-and-mirrors franchise champion nonsense intentionally to create confusion and make it look like he wasn't simply stripped because he had no plans to fight Charlo, but that's how it went. Canelo has no mandatory, the belt they gave him has no weight class, and he can't even lose the belt to fighter that beats him. The media has not bought into this story, and writers like Mannix and Rafael have been quick to point out that this new thing is not a credible title and that Canelo was stripped because he isn't fighting Charlo. He's not undisputed as long as Charlo is the WBC champ.

one of DAZN first acts since joining the boxing fraternity..... refuse to approve a world title fight that would determine the undisputed unified middleweight champion of the world that fight is right there, DAZN has both fighters..... but, DAZN would not " approve " the matchup thanks DAZN, keep up the good work - -Yer welcome!

Depends how you view it. I view it like the WBA super and regular. When there's a super champ the regular doesn't mean ****. Canelo is the champ, not Charlo. Doesn’t matter how you view it If Andrade beats Canelo, he’ll only be the WBA, IBF and WBO Champion. It’s not an undisputed fight, so Andrade really has been screwed by the WBC because that’s the only reason they would consider the fight Canelo is the highest ranked WBC middleweight so, whether you and I like it or not..... the world will accept Canelo as the undisputed middleweight champion of the world I actually agree with you, for the same reason..... if he goes for Andrade, to become undisputed..... then Charlo becomes a must-fight opponent, because he disputes it also..... not a huge Charlo fan, and I get his lack of credible wins at 160, but he has been waiting..... and waiting..... and waiting..... that would be a good fight, and would literally clean out 160 but yea, Canelo will be regarded by the media/fans as the undisputed lineal middleweight champion of the world, if he beats Andrade..... just like the media/fans accepted that Golovkin drew the middleweight defence record with Hopkins..... despite Gennady only defending a WBA junior title, a lower sub-title that did not even exist back when Hopkins was doing his thing everyone loves a cool story bro..... so it will happen and if Andrade wins? He won’t be a WBC world champion This is true. Nobody can win Canelo's franchise title by beating him, and the official WBC title is now held by Charlo. So if Canelo is still recognised as the WBC champion, that means Andrade - or whoever - would need to beat two different men to become WBC champ himself, which is an absurd idea.

technically, no..... the WBC actually screwed Canelo with that franchise silliness, Charlo is now the WBC champ..... Do you really expect anybody to believe that the WBC stripped Canelo of their belt and made him a "franchise champion" without his approval?

well, Canelo will not fight Golovkin shouldn't DAZN remember who Andrade is ? whats the hold up ? Where is the evidence that DAZN refuse to approve Andrade for Canelo and will only approve GGG or Kovalev? How do you know that DAZN would not approve Andrade if Canelo was willing to fight him?

and if Andrade wins? He won’t be a WBC world champion my humble opinion is..... would beating Andrade make Canelo the undisputed middleweight champ? technically, no..... the WBC actually screwed Canelo with that franchise silliness, Charlo is now the WBC champ..... realistically, yes..... Canelo is the highest ranked WBC middleweight..... he is a much better fighter than Charlo..... and he is much more worthy of the title 'WBC champion' Canelo won his title off Golovkin, what has Charlo done at 160? from the other thread..... great point hmm..... my thoughts on that..... Andrade cannot become undisputed, so..... I have to agree with you, that fight is not for the Undisputed title..... great point but, Canelo would hold all of the belts, including the WBC..... and he is the highest ranked WBC middleweight he is also clearly a better fighter than Charlo, and more worthy of the title 'WBC Champion' my guess is..... you are 100% correct, but according to media/fans Canelo will become the Undisputed middleweight champion.... because the media/fans love cool stories, and because Canelo will be the highest ranked WBC middleweight just like they accepted Golovkin equaling Hopkins record for middleweight defences, despite Golovkin only defending a junior WBA title that did not exist back when Hopkins was doing his thing personally, I don't care if they do hail Canelo as the Undisputed middleweight champion..... but the WBC really did Canelo no favors with that 'Franchise Champion' stupidity because if Canelo beats Andrade, Charlo really becomes a must-fight opponent for Canelo imho..... considering the fact that Charlo is now a full champion according to the WBC, despite him not actually doing anything Canelo should fight Charlo..... he should have to, and he should want to..... and it could be a real good fight great point also..... to be honest, it is a two-sided question phenom is right..... technically, Canelo will not become Undisputed by beating Andrade..... simply because, Andrade cannot become Undisputed by beating Canelo so it makes no sense at all but what does make perfect sense, is dropping the word "technically" from the sentence above..... because anything that follows the word "technically" is usually bullshlt.....and replacing it with the word "realistically" realistically, Canelo is the highest ranked WBC middleweight..... he is a much better fighter than Charlo..... and he is much more worthy of the title WBC champion but imho, forget the titles and all that bullshlt..... Canelo would need to fight Charlo because he would be the last remaining threat at 160 no big deal if that fight doesn't happen..... but that could be the best remaining fight left on the table, I have no problem with it I had no idea the subject was being so widely debated someone should make a poll

This would not be a case of boxing finally matching the 2 best in a division to finally settle who is best, in fact far from it. All this fake moral outrage about putting a paper champ against a guy who most thought lost his last fight to Golovkin is pathetic. The OP’s cartoonish hatred of Golovkin, the guy most see as the middleweight champ still, is the only reason for this thread. It’s the only reason for 90% of the OP’s threads. The people’s undisputed champion would be between Canelo and Golovkin, if a clear win were had he would stand at the top of the division. In this case DAZN just wants what the fans want.

Canelo is the highest ranked WBC middleweight so, whether you and I like it or not..... the world will accept Canelo as the undisputed middleweight champion of the world I actually agree with you, for the same reason..... if he goes for Andrade, to become undisputed..... then Charlo becomes a must-fight opponent, because he disputes it also..... not a huge Charlo fan, and I get his lack of credible wins at 160, but he has been waiting..... and waiting..... and waiting..... that would be a good fight, and would literally clean out 160 but yea, Canelo will be regarded by the media/fans as the undisputed lineal middleweight champion of the world, if he beats Andrade..... just like the media/fans accepted that Golovkin drew the middleweight defence record with Hopkins..... despite Gennady only defending a WBA junior title, a lower sub-title that did not even exist back when Hopkins was doing his thing everyone loves a cool story bro..... so it will happen and if Andrade wins? He won’t be a WBC world champion

Depends how you view it. I view it like the WBA super and regular. When there's a super champ the regular doesn't mean ****. Canelo is the champ, not Charlo. Doesn’t matter how you view it If Andrade beats Canelo, he’ll only be the WBA, IBF and WBO Champion. It’s not an undisputed fight, so Andrade really has been screwed by the WBC because that’s the only reason they would consider the fight

aboutfkntime needs to post some evidence that DAZN will ONLY approve Golovkin or Kovalev and that they REFUSE to approve Andrade. Merely repeating something over and over again does not make it a FACT. well, Canelo will not fight Golovkin shouldn't DAZN remember who Andrade is ? whats the hold up ?

one of DAZN first acts since joining the boxing fraternity..... refuse to approve a world title fight that would determine the undisputed unified middleweight champion of the world that fight is right there, DAZN has both fighters..... but, DAZN would not " approve " the matchup thanks DAZN, keep up the good work You dont know that they "refused" it. For all you know (which is nothing), Golden Boy has not even submitted Andrade as a possible opponent. You havent the slightest idea. As usual. I know we've seen DAZN say they've approved of two opponents but have we really seen them say they'll stand in the way of a title defense? DAZN said that they would ONLY approve Golovkin or Kovalev it seems pretty straight-forward to me aboutfkntime needs to post some evidence that DAZN will ONLY approve Golovkin or Kovalev and that they REFUSE to approve Andrade. Merely repeating something over and over again does not make it a FACT.

fun poll, please vote..... https://www.boxingscene.com/forums/showthread.php?t=820690 I should have put the poll in this thread but forgot

Exactly, this is a DAZN bashing thread. The go to place for PBC shills. Charlo is WBC champ not Canelo. So your argument of DAZN blocking undisputed doesnt work. The WBC was taken from Canelo and given to a PBC Al Haymon fighter for free, he didnt have to fight for it. If you are angry at UNDISPUTED not happening maybe say a word or 2 about the WBC. wtf ? :thinking: what are you saying..... ? whichever ret4rded group of people who support promoters that you belong to..... whether it is the idiots who support DAZN, or the idiots who support Hymen..... run along and play with both of them, hopefully in traffic we are discussing something completely different than your silly little war that means nothing and btw, Canelo is the highest ranked WBC middleweight..... so, no matter how hard you cry..... he will be regarded by media/fans as the undisputed middleweight champion of the world if he beats Andrade..... that is just how it is he will hold up a green belt that is bigger than Charlo's LMAO the media fans accepted Golovkin equaling Hopkins record for middleweight defences, despite the fact that Golovkin defended the WBA junior title for 11 of those fights..... everyone loves a cool story bro, that is just how it is

dude, have you seen the thread topic..... ? what does Al Hymen have to do with DAZN refusing to approve a world title fight that would determine the undisputed unified middleweight champion of the world? why have you chosen to insist that this topic/thread involves him?..... and why have you chosen to insist that I somehow like him?..... we are talking about Canelo, who is a GBP fighter :D LMAO tooooo funny..... are you lost ? :lol1: this is the DAZN-bashing thread (and the IBF), not the Hymen-bashing thread..... move on soldier LMAO Exactly, this is a DAZN bashing thread. The go to place for PBC shills. Charlo is WBC champ not Canelo. So your argument of DAZN blocking undisputed doesnt work. The WBC was taken from Canelo and given to a PBC Al Haymon fighter for free, he didnt have to fight for it. If you are angry at UNDISPUTED not happening maybe say a word or 2 about the WBC.

And there we go. Just like i predicted. dude, have you seen the thread topic..... ? what does Al Hymen have to do with DAZN refusing to approve a world title fight that would determine the undisputed unified middleweight champion of the world? why have you chosen to insist that this topic/thread involves him?..... and why have you chosen to insist that I somehow like him?..... we are talking about Canelo, who is a GBP fighter :D LMAO tooooo funny..... are you lost ? :lol1: this is the DAZN-bashing thread (and the IBF), not the Hymen-bashing thread..... move on soldier LMAO