Part of a large Bloomberg story on DAZN this morning talking about how they are going after the NFL Sunday ticket package.
https://www.bloomberg.com/news/articles/2019-07-08/billionaire-blavatnik-wants-a-piece-of-america-s-biggest-sport
Baseball Push
DAZN’s U.S. push began when it won rights to 100 boxing matches a year and it’s been streaming fights since December. In April it added Major League Baseball with coverage that excludes live games but takes viewers to all the major ball parks for updates.
Baseball has brought it thousands of new subscribers, according to a person familiar with the company’s plans, who asked not to be identified discussing internal figures.
Sports business commentator Yannick Ramcke said while baseball hasn’t driven meaningful subscription growth for DAZN, it has allowed the company to strike up relationships with major sports leagues before the next live rights come up for sale.
“You don’t just show up at the table and get your hands on them,” said Ramcke, who writes the offthefieldbusiness.de blog.
DAZN has grown by offering streamed sports for less than the prices typically charged by traditional pay-TV broadcasters. That’s brought it more than 4 million subscribers globally, of which around 1.2 million are in the U.S. Local sports streaming platform ESPN+, owned by Disney, has around 2 million subscribers.
Go DAZN!!! What fans don't realize, which is a basic concept really, is the more successful DAZN is, the better fights the fans will get. I expect their success to only increase from here on out.
do you really believe that?
when has consolidation and division amongst promoters and broadcasters given better fights?
pbc has almost all of the best fighters at 147 right now. let this serve as an example to you. spence isn't fighting thurman. thurman is fighitng pacquiao. spence is going to fight shawn porter.
If you are a boxing fan you have 2 choices pay the year rate $99 (8 bucks a month) or you pay just for the 1 big fight you want and it's basically 20 bucks for PPV instead of your normal 80 bucks it would of been and that includes a full month of fights and ondemand content. It's a win win. If you are bashing the DAZN price you are not a boxing fan you are a fan of a specific Network/Promoter and have a agenda simple as that.
What I also dont get. Lets say you are a boxing fan and definitely have to subscribe when canelo is fighting. Thats 40 dollars a year.
So if you dont get a full year subscription, the other 10 months are not worth 59 dollars (99 - 40) for you? For boxing content on a nearly weekly basis?
Like Fannon International LDBC says ''DAZN is $240 a full year....''
That guy knows exactly what he's doing. the LDBC never say, ''$20 a month but cancel at any time.''
If you are a boxing fan you have 2 choices pay the year rate $99 (8 bucks a month) or you pay just for the 1 big fight you want and it's basically 20 bucks for PPV instead of your normal 80 bucks it would of been and that includes a full month of fights and ondemand content. It's a win win. If you are bashing the DAZN price you are not a boxing fan you are a fan of a specific Network/Promoter and have a agenda simple as that.
I can't speak for anyone else, but I equate value with paying $99.99 for a year of DAZN, not $20/month.
I still don't get why people keep quoting 20 bucks a month lol it's only the people with an agenda to bash DAZN. If you are a boxing fan 100 bucks for 1 year is what you are paying, basically 8 bucks a month and that is cheaper then you paid for HBO or Showtime.
Ok. So show me his source for those numbers
So you still haven't found his source for those numbers which just so happens to be the same exact numbers as the Canelo fight. What a coincidence huh?
Bloomberg's reputation is enough for me, journalist's don't give up sources for a reason, because most of this info is insider information.
Jesus are you 10 or born yesterday? Journalism 101 learn it.
Who's celebrating it? I & I suspect most fans would LOVE for boxing to be on regular TV like more major sports are. It is what it is doe.
I think Canelo, Joshua & WBSS make DAZN worth it. I don't disagree there are a lot of w/e cards on DAZN, but I also like watching w/e fights too so thats just added value to me. I mean think about it you were paying almost $200 a month just to watch Canelo fights til DAZN signed them.
You think GGG is an easy win for Canelo? You need to go back & look at the scorecards fans hard here & other forums where one could argue GGG should be up 2-0 on Canelo.
Is Canelo vs Andrade the best fight? To me thats the 3rd best fight to make right now. Canelo vs GGG has been ultra competitive 2 times already. And to me Canelo vs Charlo is a much better & competitive fight than Canelo vs Andrade. Hell man I think Canelo vs Derevyanchenko would be a more fun & better fight, but yea he don't deserve it as much as Andrade does.
You think paying $100 for 6 quality fights and the rest mediocrity is worth it? Ok but that goes to my point about the standard- if pbc has only 6 quality fights and you pay nothing then pbc is said to be hurting the sport. This is what I don’t understand.
Where did I post or suggest Canelo/ ggg was an easy fight?
The bottom line is are fans going to hold Dazn to the same standard they held pbc and espn. If so, fine.
If not, then I see that as a major issue because why would anyone pay for the same low quality fights they have been complaining about for a couple of years?
I think it’s fair to hold Dazn to the same standard pbc and espn are held to.
bigjavi973
remind this poster how much you pay a month for ''premium'' cable service alone with a package, plus any additional expenses for side apps. Then multiply that by 12 and inform BufordTannen an approximation of American consumerism for sports entertainment.
Bigdunny1, myself, and you included have given examples and variables of what many American homeowners are WILLING to pay.
Bigjavi973 has also stated months before, in my threads, the amount of PPV's combined a year, assuming those PURIST boxing fans would buy them all in comparison for what you get with DAZN. That's just ''DAZN vs PPV'' not general premium packages.
We've got dummies saying, you don't get movies with DAZN as you would with Showtime and HBO etc.. blah blah with these dumb posters not realizing their failed attempts to discredit DAZN while they're justifying HUGE expenses... lol... in other words, people are wiling to pay high premiums for everything else, but not DAZN.
Dafuq outta herez! we's in da mean streets mayne!
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You might just not like boxing as much as you think. Sh^t man you see the prices out there to attend fights? Its like $30 for sh^t seats at a decent card or $50 for ringside seats to club shows. HBO was like $15ish a month & if you don't give a f#ck about other sh^t so much that was $15 for boxing. And Showtime is doing that now. Boxing costs money to be a fan unlike most more popular sports & it always has unfortunately. And $8.25/mo is a great value for a show a weekend basically. Not to mention that you can re-watch easier than most other platforms.
Of course I like boxing. Asking tough questions about a service shouldn’t be equated with not liking the sport. I am asking what is value.l?
When low quality fights were aired on espn, bounce, and fox people were upset. Now many of those same people are celebrating paying for the same quality fights. I think we can agree that is somewhat problematic.
Dazn picked up the wbss which has been great. but the fights they are making for the most part are low quality, save for a few. If coppinger is right, they didn’t approve Andrade as an opponent for Canelo in Sept.
If Dazn is not going to make the best fights and just give their top guys easy wins, how is paying a monthly fee for that value?
I don’t agree that the standard “ a show a weekend”? The standard used to be quality fights and if the network didn’t air quality we complained. That should be the same with dazn right?
Or does the standard change because it’s no longer cable tv?
I can't speak for anyone else, but I equate value with paying $99.99 for a year of DAZN, not $20/month.
Ok but 95% of the fights aired were not worth the $8-9 per month.
I have no problem if you feel it’s great value. I just find it odd that posters would complain about low quality fights when they weren’t paying a monthly fee are now posting that paying a monthly fee for low quality fights is value.
I still don’t understand why the pro Dazn people equate value with paying $19.99 for fights that don’t warrant that amount.
I can't speak for anyone else, but I equate value with paying $99.99 for a year of DAZN, not $20/month.
If they got NFL on there with MLB then I bet it would do really good here. I have no problem with DAZN, I’m just not a big enough sports fan to have a year long subscription to it. That’s one of the things I liked the most about boxing being on HBO/Showtime was having the access to their movies and TV shows.
nah, lets not be crazy, its better than average doe.
randomly this is dazn f#cking mcc's mom while he's in his room and the real reason behind his grudge against dazn. Can't say i blame his haterism of a platform.
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lmao!!!!!!!!!!!
It’s great for Dazn and their employees that someone has finally confirmed they are over 1 mil subscribers. I would want to know if this total includes cancellations. If they are at 1.2 mil after all the cancellations post Canelo fights then they are doing very well.
I still don’t understand why the pro Dazn people equate value with paying $19.99 for fights that don’t warrant that amount.
Canelo fights on Dazn are imo a bargain. The rest of the fights are not worth the price but you have had some really good fights and the Ruiz upset.
I had missed this. by ''Cable TV'' you mean the channel choices that you get on Direct TV as well? Isn't Sling TV an OTT, meaning there's no hub/device/proprietary hardware like a Cable company? Plus OTT relies on streaming bandwidth vs traditional coaxial bandwidth?
I think elite internet bandwidth for like 4K compressed streams should be as fast navigation as traditional cable boxes? I do recall cable protocol with remote FAST. of course a different protocol and proprietary.
That's perhaps the main difference in cost aside from some channels not on other platforms. It's about navigation and speed/refresh with categories and menus.
$25 bucks aint bad. Isnt Direct TV like $60 minimum? different protocol of course.
yup.....
streams right to my smart tv, phone or computer/laptop
I can literally watch tv anywhere I go....
direct tv has similar but more expensive etc...
oh and I also get on demand shows etc.
if a movie starts... sometimes I get the option of watching it FROM THE BEGINNING...
I dont think the direct tv app thing does the same
C'mon MCC you're embarrassing yourself. Don't let me bring the pain in this thread because my balls itch and smell like vanilla coconut ice cream right nowz!
You know the 1.2mil were from Worldwide streams for the Canelo Jacobs fight. Wouldn't it have been more sweet had DAZN said it streamed 1.2mil simply in the U.S? No, they went gangsta and reported that 1.2 million people worldwide watched live across the company’s eight current markets. The truth is better than fabrication and DAZN were humble about it, like my balls! That doesn't translate to US subscriptions. During that time didn't DAZN insinuate from an inside source that they were CLOSE to a million subs and all you PBC LDBC SHILLS said ''oh that can mean anything....400K is 'close' to 1mil too'' blah blah etc..
Bruh, why are you afraid of PBC to lose? Enough with Barbershop Conversation narratives mayne. That guy has sex with frogs on Thursdays twice on Sundays!
The most creditible reliable source to ever speak on subscription numbers before this was the former HBO exec that went on record saying they were close to 1M US subscribers a few weeks before the Canelo fight. Now Bloomberg says they are at 1.2M subscribers and they don't phuk around they have reliable sources and could give 2 phuks about trying to negative or positive spin about boxing lol
But Motorcity Welch still refuses to believe it. Nope because he and his agenda he's been spinning from day 1 about DAZN and his lies crumble if he acknowledges it. Remember days before the HBO exec told the world DAZN is already close to 1M subscribers this phuk boy was spamming these boards saying that DAZN has less then 100K subscribers something he was clearly wrong about. LMAO
Motorcity Welch face whenever DAZN news drops
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What's the total cost of all the main networks/apps that show boxing? If you wanted to see all the good boxers, you would need all these networks, or an alternative way to see them. What's the total?
I will stick to my streaming all of them for free!
Different, actually. The big difference being they represent worldwide vs. US figures.
Reported viewers on DAZN for Canelo fight was 1.2 million worldwide and 600 thousand on DAZN in the US.
This article says DAZN has 4 million subscribers worldwide and 1.2 million subscribers in the US.
exactly and those were live views not subscribers. They aren't the same numbers, Motorcity Welch is really grasping at straws. lol Bloomberg is now the most credible to speak on DAZN subscription numbers and they don't just make shyt up they have real business insider sources but somehow they got confused with views vs subscribers and then got it confused with global vs US Market even though they clearly reported on BOTH global and US market. Sure Bloomberg messed up because Motorcity Welch who has been lying and making up shyt from day 1 says so. Hmmm let's see who we should all believe I mean it's a tough one but Bloomberg > Motorcity Welch LMAO
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If this is a legit article, why would writers not ask about Canada and what went wrong for a Dazn there with NFL? Why did NFL force a tv partner on them within 30 day?
Yet this big mouth is saying they are going to get US Sunday ticket????
Wake the hell up Dazntards.
So you still haven't found his source for those numbers which just so happens to be the same exact numbers as the Canelo fight. What a coincidence huh?
Different, actually. The big difference being they represent worldwide vs. US figures.
Reported viewers on DAZN for Canelo fight was 1.2 million worldwide and 600 thousand on DAZN in the US.
This article says DAZN has 4 million subscribers worldwide and 1.2 million subscribers in the US.
This is laughable. NFL forced Dazn to get a tv partner in Canada after 1 fricken month.
Dazn owner gave them these bs numbers. NFL is never dealing with a Dazn again!
Complete bs article and fabricated.