Lol. Just found out canelo wants a catch weight and rehydration clause

Look at all you haters crying over ****t that has been done since the beginning of the sport lol It’s called calling shots and canelo does as he pleases if his name was Rory mcclifgam you guys would be praising him like crazy Does what he wants including PEDS

You just schooled these casuals bro, you called it it for sure haha. What more do you expect from some roided up crook who likely has all three judges all paid off. Hell, maybe he had enough to make Kovalev take a dive the kind of cash Roidnelo has nothing is impossible. Wish boxing would investigate crooks to clean the sport up. The first 24 hours are the most important for a proper rehydration. Anything after, you reduce the ability to fully rehydrate to your best ability.

This is incomplete! What these Canelo haters don’t understand is that GBP doesn’t care if Kovalev goes over like 3lbs for what like Jacobs did. If Kovalev really wants to put it all on the line he can agree to the fine as Jacobs did twice! Satiev mad cause GGG about to fight a 267 ranked Middleweight necks!! It cost Jacobs 2 million dollars. I'm sure he would have come in even heavier if it were not for the steep fine. Turns out a 1/4 million here and 1/4 million there and pretty soon you are talking serious cash. Don't minimize this A-side shyt.

HAHAAHAHAHAHAAHAHAHAHHAHA. LOLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLL. WAS I RIGHT OR WAS I RIGHT? I give CANELO ZERO CREDIT IF HE WINS. THAT WAS A B-I-T-CH ASS MOVE. PREVENTING KOVALEV FROM FULLY REHYDRATING WITHING THE FIRST 24 HOURS. You just schooled these casuals bro, you called it it for sure haha. What more do you expect from some roided up crook who likely has all three judges all paid off. Hell, maybe he had enough to make Kovalev take a dive the kind of cash Roidnelo has nothing is impossible. Wish boxing would investigate crooks to clean the sport up.

Called it, even when others said it wasn't happening. There's always some kind of catch when it comes to Canelo. They have too much invested in the guy to take risks.

HAHAAHAHAHAHAAHAHAHAHHAHA. LOLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLL. WAS I RIGHT OR WAS I RIGHT? I give CANELO ZERO CREDIT IF HE WINS. THAT WAS A B-I-T-CH ASS MOVE. PREVENTING KOVALEV FROM FULLY REHYDRATING WITHING THE FIRST 24 HOURS. You were wrong. There was no catchweight. There is however a morning weight in but he just has to be no more than 10. He can gain more after the weigh in. Also, if they are doing a morning weigh in then that is less than the 24 hours you are talking about, so again, he can put on more weight

HAHAAHAHAHAHAAHAHAHAHHAHA. LOLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLL. WAS I RIGHT OR WAS I RIGHT? I give CANELO ZERO CREDIT IF HE WINS. THAT WAS A B-I-T-CH ASS MOVE. PREVENTING KOVALEV FROM FULLY REHYDRATING WITHING THE FIRST 24 HOURS.

The only way he beats kovalev is on the scales. No surprise at all. Why even fight the guy? If you need to drain them, leave it. If these type of moves are a sign of things to come in Boxing, I think the sport is going to die. Fighters and promoters are giving critics and cynics ammunition at this point. Yes and yes. I'm so sick to death of "A-side" rationalizations, as if the mere fact that it can be gotten away with and opposition will ultimately concede to the terms for the right number somehow serves as justification in of itself. Such a groveling fanboy mentality. I swear there is an entire subset of fanboy who gets off vicariously on the "flex" of A-side stipulations. "Yeah Canelo, make him your *****!" And spare me the tired Mayweather whataboutism...it was garbage when he did it as well. It's garbage when anyone pulls it...that's the whole point. Basically anyone who considers themselves a true fan of the sport (and not just fighters a, b, and c) should be vehemently opposed to this kind of thing, and instead you have a large swath of people who more or less celebrate it. It makes the favorite look even worse in the event of a loss (You couldn't pull it off even with the handicap?), forever opens the door for well-deserved doubt and skepticism in victory, and generally defeats the purpose of personal challenges for purposes of "greatness" and "legacy" entirely. It's a lose-lose, plain and simple.

If this happens and he beats kovalev I will give him ZERO CREDIT FOR THIS AND HIS FELLOW AMIGO ROBERT GARCIA AGREES WITH ME. Don’t matter how many times your favorite fighter begged for a catch weight

You can't fight for a title at a catchweight... Yeah you can if the champion agrees. You can't force him to fight at a cw.

Not the first time and won't be the last. Catchweights are not a new thing.

Fans should require/demand links to prove their POV. Okay, if that’s your point then I cannot disagree. Carry on...

Ok :dunno:...... Chavez, Jacobs and Fielding, if he won’t face those guys without draining them down you would have to be crazy to think he’d face Kovalev, even old Kovalev at full strength. Or do you disagree?

And yet, emotional fight fans are soiling themselves as if it were from God's mouth. And the TS refuses to post a link. Didn’t need a link or even this thread to tell me what I already knew from Canelo’s recent history.

Excellent breakdown. My point about links is a person should post them to support their comments. As you can see, the TS wants no part in supplying links and people (Nelo haters) are stepping on each other to shlt on Nelo. Boxing fans are the worst in sports. If the TS had posted some kind of proof to back up what he was saying, I would have been shitting on Canelo for it myself! But a thread like this without a link to the source of the info being given shouldn't be taken seriously. It's really nothing more than rumour mongering.

Floyd had already fought multiple times at 154 yet forced Canelo to go down to 152 otherwise he wouldn't fight him. Manny had already fought at 147 yet forced cotto to come to down 145 or no fight not to mention a million other catchweight fights Manny impossed on his opponents. Cotto forced Sergio Martinez to come down to 159 or no fight. Sugar Ray Leonard forced Lalonde a light heavyweight to go down all the way to 168 or he wouldn't fight him. All these guys justified it by saying I have already moved up mulitple weight classes in my career your weight is not my natural weight. Canelo has already moved up what 5 weight classes through out his career won titles in 3 different weights. Jumped up to 160 and whooped the so called boogyman at his own weight. He is a natural middleweight weight you want him to jump up 2 full weight classes, give up 15lbs and you think Kovalev shouldn't have to sacrifice a thing to get the fight? He didn't whoop anyone. Actually he should have a least 2 more losses on his resume. Lara make him look like a novice and the first ggg fight was a robbery. The second was closer but I think he did edged out.

3 links that are pretty unbiased - https://www.latimes.com/sports/sportsnow/la-sp-sn-andre-ward-boxing-gennady-golovkin-hbo-tom-loeffler-20150915-story.html https://www.thefightcity.com/golovkin-vs-ward-gennady-golovkin-andre-ward-kovalev-boxing/ http://thecomeback.com/queensberryrules/2015-articles/andre-ward-vs-gennady-golovkin-and-the-weight-divide.html Can you share some links ? TS hates links as does most NSB'ers........ I must have posted literally hundreds of links on this topic back when it was still hot news, and none of them made any difference to the way people felt about it. Whether GGG "ducked" Ward is not a matter of facts, it's a matter of how people want to interpret those facts. These are the relevant facts: GGG received an offer to fight Ward at 168lb, with a 50/50 split, the day after he signed contracts for a unification fight with Lemieux. This was in the summer of 2015. Ward had just come back from a long lay-off and beaten Paul Smith, at 172lb. There was no specific date in the offer, but it was stated that both Ward and GGG would have interim fights before facing each other sometime in 2016. At that time, GGG was the WBC 160lb interim champion and mandatory challenger. Unusually for the WBC, they had given GGG a legally binding contract guaranteeing him an immediate shot at the winner of the Cotto vs Canelo WBC title fight, scheduled for Nov that year. That was part of the deal reached when GGG agreed to step aside and allow Cotto/Canelo to take place before he got his shot, and it proved to be a real thorn in the WBC's side. Cotto also paid GGG an $800k step aside fee. GGG's plan - provided he could beat Lemieux in Oct - was to go on to fight the winner of Cotto/Canelo sometime in 2016, which was the same time frame stipulated in the offer he got from Ward. The WBC rules state that a mandatory challenger must be fit, not under contract for another fight, and available to fight imediately if the mando is ordered, or he loses his mandatory position. So GGG was faced with a choice between moving up to 168 tor Ward or staying at 160 for a unification fight with the winner of Cotto/Canelo. According to Ward, Tom Loeffler rejected his offer 23 mins after recieving it. I'm surprised he thought about it for more than a minute, tbh! Re the the 164 catchweight demand from GGG. Loeffer denied that demand was ever made, and he was telling the truth there. A catchweight was never part of any negotiations between the 2 sides. It came from an interview with Abel Sanchez. Abel said that GGG was a bigger draw than Ward and was being asked to move up for the fight, so if Ward wanted 50/50 on the money he should offer 50/50 on the weight too. This was later co-signed by Loeffler. When it was put to GGG he replied by saying, "Yes, 50/50 money and weight is fair" That's where the myth of the 164 catchweight "demand" came from.

Oh I'm well aware of Canelo's multiple abuses of using catchweights. That **** should be rid of boxing ASAP. If its a catchweight or if it has rehydration clauses it should be a non-title fight. I'm fine with the odd catchweight if it's to bridge two classes (WW champ and SWW champ fight at 150) but I'm sick and tired of it being used as a way to get an advantage.

Come on you understand these guys arguing & talking specific weight limits. Mfers trying to get max advantage or beyond max advantage. Its all a part of the process. And like it or not this is how boxing has always worked & its the reason boxing is the only mom & pop caliber sport in boxing. Cuz you can make up the actual rules & regulations of the sport more than you can in any other sport. Now if someone with some power (another issue in boxing cuz no one has power in boxing, like someone has power in the NFL or NBA) says sh^t should work like x, y & z then fair play on saying that you gotta weigh in at 147 for a title fight or 148 for a non-title fight at WW (like they do in the UFC for example vs just letting people weigh in whatever the two guys agree to among each other). But til then boxing has been & still is up for guys to make up the rules as they have the power & leverage to do so. I'd much prefer we live in a boxing world where the weight is decided, the ring size is decided, the gloves are decided, the rounds are decided & the money is decided among other most basic of things going into a every single fight a guy has at a certain level in the game. But thats just not how boxing is or has been sit up regardless of how James Toney (a favorite of mine back in the day too) did sh^t. I fully agree with you. I just wish more guys were like Toney instead of looking to use some bull**** "A Side" status to tilt the scales in their favor.

Is this really surprising? Canelo is king of catch-weights, of course he would want to drain Kovalev to the point he is a husk. He's only looking for names on his resume, he's not looking for tough fights. Didnt Kovalev respond already, basically saying he wouldn't go down?