How would you rate Manny if he KOs Thurman and then decisions Spence?

He is a nailed on top 10 ATG at the moment. These wins at the age of 40+ put him Top 3

then he'll be FOTD for 2 consecutive decades!

He only needs to beat thurman to be goat. Floyd ducked these challenges at 36, and Pac still going to well at 40 with 70 fights under belt. He has to be rewarded. If you asked Floyd to fight these guys when he was 36 you got told in no uncertain terms where to go by Floyd fans that your just haters wanting to see Floyd lose. But with Pac people are already envisioning him beating thurman and then spence next on agenda? The standards for Pac have just always been higher that you take it for granted and don't even realise it. Pac has insane resume already, he's doing what Floyd has never did, never will do, and never could do until proven otherwise. Come on Floyd come out retirement and beat Nell at 160. Floyd s been surpassed and found out. Floyd fans know this more than anyone and they will come out with unrealistic comments like there is nothing Pac can do to surpass floyd, to make themselves feel better? I don’t consider Floyd any where near top 10 of the goats. That would be comedy Pacquiao we do consider top 10. I think he has a slot there somewhere Too many fighters to think of.. when we start thinking about older older fighters. I have my 2nd thoughts and change of opinions of top 10 best boxers Pac-Man greatest EVER meaning number 1... even after Thurman Spence wins so to say ? Don’t know about that buddy. I don’t think so. DEBATE for another day

Then best of this generation

He’ll break top 10 greatest ever if not already.Something Floyd has no chance of ever being. People easily forget about mannys run from Barrera until time he got put to sleep by Marquez He only needs to beat thurman to be goat. Floyd ducked these challenges at 36, and Pac still going to well at 40 with 70 fights under belt. He has to be rewarded. If you asked Floyd to fight these guys when he was 36 you got told in no uncertain terms where to go by Floyd fans that your just haters wanting to see Floyd lose. But with Pac people are already envisioning him beating thurman and then spence next on agenda? The standards for Pac have just always been higher that you take it for granted and don't even realise it. Pac has insane resume already, he's doing what Floyd has never did, never will do, and never could do until proven otherwise. Come on Floyd come out retirement and beat Nell at 160. Floyd s been surpassed and found out. Floyd fans know this more than anyone and they will come out with unrealistic comments like there is nothing Pac can do to surpass floyd, to make themselves feel better?

If he gets two clear victories over 2 young lions where do you rate Manny all time? the true GOAT.

All gravy Pac is at a point in his career where every win can add to his legacy but can't really hurt it He's 40 If he does that. Pac will have the best resume in boxing 2 generations of boxing at the top. That’s stratosphere status if he accomplishes that.

Just because Floyd didn't fight him that doesn't mean he ducked him. If what you said was valid, then I should give Floyd credit for Corrales, Castillo and Maidana, all guys Manny (based on this logic) ducked. STop with the stupid make believe theories where you as a Manny fan try to elevate him over Floyd simply because you like Manny. Just accept the fact that while he had a great career, Floyd's was just better. You make Manny look weaker when you try and gerrymander Floyd's opponent's because those same theories lower manny's opposition even more when applied to his career. I remember talks of Thurman v Mayweather. Corrales/Castillo v Pac? What weight was Manny back then? No way they were ever on his radar. If Thurman was his mandatory at the time he fought Berto, then there's way more of a case for a duck there.

If that was to happen which unlikely. He would set himself to fight BUD or fantasy Floyd rematch He’ll break top 10 greatest ever if not already.Something Floyd has no chance of ever being. People easily forget about mannys run from Barrera until time he got put to sleep by Marquez Hey. If Bernard Hopkins could fight forever. Never know

pac's the greatest fighter of this generation with fraud jr running distant second or third best fighter at this time. pac winning against thurman and spence makes pac the goat! :headbang:

If he gets two clear victories over 2 young lions where do you rate Manny all time? - -Manny already #1 p4p. You been under a rock on Pluto?

Very high but I already rate him very high. He is way past prime and those two wins would not make his losses go away. He might beat Thurman but he has a snowball's chance in hell of beating Spence.

It moves him up the ATG list for sure. Both Thurman & Spence have occupied P4P top 10 lists for the past 3 years. If a 40 year old man beats both of them, especially one who started his career at 108 lbs, then there's definitely GOAT arguments to be made for him.

No they don't. You are making that up. Floyd doesn't have to fight because he made hundreds of millions and can live off his wealth. Manny is fighting because he owes taxes and needs money to fund his and his family's campaigns for office in the Philippines. If you need to lie about why they are fighting to make Manny look better, be my guest. This site allows you to post whatever you want. So long as Manny continues to be ranked behind Floyd in all credible rankings of ATG fighters, nothing you post really matters. Like your sig reads Manny is nothing but a former flyweight coming to end of career, past prime with no kos for ages. No need to stray from that narrative. jmm said Pac is without question best of era. If Pac beats thurman jmm might think Pac s goat also. Pac beating thurman don't definitely make him goat. Nothing in life's definite apart from death. But Pac s in the equation.

More people think Pac is greater than floyd. If Pac then beats thurman, on top of all he's done he is goat. Floyd s career ended at 36 with berto. Pac s gone onto beat thurman which surpasses anything Floyd s done. Floyd s not shown he can achieve anything at 39. Pac s fearless in his drive to cement legacy, Floyd not so much No they don't. You are making that up. Floyd doesn't have to fight because he made hundreds of millions and can live off his wealth. Manny is fighting because he owes taxes and needs money to fund his and his family's campaigns for office in the Philippines. If you need to lie about why they are fighting to make Manny look better, be my guest. This site allows you to post whatever you want. So long as Manny continues to be ranked behind Floyd in all credible rankings of ATG fighters, nothing you post really matters. Like your sig reads Manny is nothing but a former flyweight coming to end of career, past prime with no kos for ages. No need to stray from that narrative.

No one credible has Manny any higher than #2 in his generation or top 25 ATG. The only ones who post stuff like this are diehard fans like yourself. You can't separate your fandom and lust from your evaluation of his career. More people think Pac is greater than floyd. If Pac then beats thurman, on top of all he's done he is goat. Floyd s career ended at 38 with berto. Pac s gone onto beat thurman which surpasses anything Floyd s done. Floyd s not shown he can achieve anything at 39. Pac s fearless in his drive to cement legacy, Floyd not so much

If he gets two clear victories over 2 young lions where do you rate Manny all time? Top 150 for sure

jmm wasnt either when floyd fought him. and pac? you mean the same pac that died and came back to life already? that stated, if pac beat thurman, it will definitely put him above floyd since thurman was the fighter floyd ducked. i think this hold more value that a win over spence or crawford (not proven). Just because Floyd didn't fight him that doesn't mean he ducked him. If what you said was valid, then I should give Floyd credit for Corrales, Castillo and Maidana, all guys Manny (based on this logic) ducked. STop with the stupid make believe theories where you as a Manny fan try to elevate him over Floyd simply because you like Manny. Just accept the fact that while he had a great career, Floyd's was just better. You make Manny look weaker when you try and gerrymander Floyd's opponent's because those same theories lower manny's opposition even more when applied to his career.

green canelo weight drain. now if it was the canelo now and not weight drain, then floyd would give full credit. and sure he does, he has wins over a undefeated tim bradley and is about to add thurman to his resume as well. thurman, bradley > 152, 21 year old canelo. just imo. Please stop. Canelo wasn't green nor was he drained. If you are going to do that, then we can take away Manny's best win, Cotto, because he was drained as well. Come on dude you are just posting that just because. You really don't think Thurman or Bradley is better than where Canelo was when he fought Floyd.

You talk like it's a mathematical equation you've proven? When you add it to all pac s others wins, the mathematical equation is Pac is GOAT. There's no other logical answer No one credible has Manny any higher than #2 in his generation or top 25 ATG. The only ones who post stuff like this are diehard fans like yourself. You can't separate your fandom and lust from your evaluation of his career.