Remember When AJ Was Compared to Ali?

The comparison was the picture (which showed great resemblance to be fair). I don’t think there was anyone whoever compared Ali and AJ style wise? If they did then clearly they have no idea what there watching as they are completely different. AJ may yet go on to eclipse him , who knows

Here's Brits saying AJ was like Ali when he beat Liston: link to news story and here's the pic they posted on the front page: https://i.dailymail.co.uk/i/pix/2017/05/01/00/3FCA4F6E00000578-4461326-image-m-36_1493593896814.jpg and not just one paper either: here's another story in the telegraph - a reputable and one of the most popular newspapers in england: news link and again same pic: https://www.telegraph.co.uk/content/dam/boxing/2017/05/01/joshua-klitschko-ali-liston_trans_NvBQzQNjv4BqqVzuuqpFlyLIwiB6NTmJwfSVWeZ_vEN7c6bHu2jJnT8.png?imwidth=450 I said it from the start, they hyped him too much and put too much pressure on him, you could see it on his face before the bell was rung in the ruiz fight, out of his comfort zone without his adoring and screaming fans....the british press and fans ruin their own fighters and then discard them like trash when the honeymoon period is over LMAO the daily fail and the telegraph are not reputable, they are are garbage news paper. Anyone who compared AJ to Ali is a moron, stop trying to put all British fans in the same boat

Talk about history revisionist . Frazier was past his own prime after 71 and years later Ali defeated him a style that was not meant to go that long . Many think ali didn't even win all those fights and im one. bc I actually count body shots to and clean punching. Ali was not saved by the bell either right against Cooper in his 19th fight ? lol see this is the problem with posters like you ,they LIKE to revise things to have a stance on another fighter. The hard truth is AJ would never have struggled at any 180 pounder nor a come forward head one of 5'11. AJ has a far tougher resume then ali even in the 23 fight distance until his recent loss. The thread itself is stupid bc AJ can still dominate the era which he most likely will despite the dumb detractions on him when Wilder took an L to 50% Fury where were you ? Probably defending the decision right ? lol. I don't expect much from any wilder fan and you're definatley included so don't bother responding back im not returning to feed the dumbness on this one. :dead: Joe Frazier was 27 years old and in his prime in '71. He was the undefeated heavyweight champion who had actually been active unlike Ali who'd only recently comeback after losing 3 years in his prime. And yeah, Cooper rocked Ali, so what? He got up and stopped him, like I said. Frazier got dominated & destroyed by George Foreman, before Ali embarrassed him. Even Evander Holyfield didn't beat Foreman as bad as a post prime Ali did 20 years later Lot's of historically great fighters have trouble early in their careers. Look at Mayweather against Emmanuel Augustus. Bernard Hopkins lost his first career fight, so? Manny Pacquiao lost to a guy named Rustics Torrecampo in his 14th fight, so? And Muhammad Ali wouldn't have gotten dominated by the Pillsbury Doughboy in Andy Ruiz, a guy who lost to Joseph Parker. Muhammad Ali would've never let a 41 year old Vladimir Klitchschko push him to the limit. Most importantly, he would've never a scammer like Eddie Hearn lead him around like a lost puppy away from any real challenges . Definitely not in his prime. And how do you not think Ali won the 3rd fight? Joe Frazier quit on his stoop Did you even watch the "Thrilla in Manilla?" Nobody question's whether or not Frazier won the first fight. It's not even controversial.

No, Fury is the closest thing to Henry Cooper. Ali didn’t get battered and beat up by a fat pub boxer with beer gut like McDermott. And he sure didn’t get knocked down by cruiserweights. Cooper dropped Ali lol, you must not be familiar with Ali, a couple of light heavies (not even cruisers by todays standards) put him down.

Joshua has had one loss, and well? Andy Ruiz Junior is a solid fighter, the fight was also not totally one sided. I still believe that Joshua will come out on top, and become the last man standing 'Just like Lennox Lewis'. Within the next 3 years, we will know who is the best between Fury, Whyte, Joshua, Wilder and the rest.

AJ is too boring to be Ali

Too early to write him off. Ali also had problems with pressure fighters like Joe Frazier. Henry Cooper also almost beat him. If he wins the rematch against Ruiz. And beat Fury and Wilder (I know he’ll beat the both of them easily), then he’ll become the best of the generation and the next one (Josh is part of 2 generations...Wilder and Fury are from the last generation and he’ll be part of the new generation in the contender stage right now). I believe in Josh. Most of those who don’t like him never did and they’re insecure about something, hence they want to make his whole career about the last fight where he had an off night. Make Fury’s career about the McDermott fight and you’ll have worse things to say about his skill set. And McDermott is the true definition of a fat bum. Wilder doesn’t even a resume, he’s just a bum with power. It’s normal for fat, ugly, and broke people to hate on a guy they wish they can be like but can’t. Ali didn't fight Frazier until after he'd missed 3 years in his prime. Prime Ali embarrasses Frazier. Hell, he beat Frazier twice and Foreman past his prime, imagine what a 25 year old Ali does to them? And no, he didn't "almost lose" to Henry Cooper. He got caught with one good shot, got up and stopped Cooper in the mid rounds. It wasn't like some close decision or something

He did lose some fights

Fury is the closest we've seen to Ali

If all is needed is SKY and marketing then where are the other cash cows filling out stadiums like AJ did/is? I think what attracted him to the general public was him knocking out people in spectacular fashion and looking like he was carved out of stone. Obviously he is going to get overhyped from that point on. we've all seen that happen with English footballers before. But I guess its easy to just say he's trash and Hearn overhyped him for cash. Makes you look hardcore. Well i never called him trash, despite me not being a fan of him, i’ve defended him on here and said he is still a good heavyweight. You don’t beat guys like Parker, Povetkin etc..if you’re a bum or average. My point is that his fame was on such a huge level and he had been built up by those around him as some iconic figure that his loss was always going to be amplified x1000 when it inevitably happened. He still had to get in the ring and do the job before and he did. I’m just saying the likes of Sky were part of it, once they put up a poll on their site about who is the best heavyweight ever and his name was included on it, there was only about 5 names on it. The average casual fan might read that and not know any better and believe he’s in the company with guys like Ali. He had the image, following, promotion etc. Of a GREAT fighter when the reality is that he’s not actually great. Do the downfall is always going to be as spectacular as the rise. He’s still a very good solid heavyweight in the current era.

If all is needed is SKY and marketing then where are the other cash cows filling out stadiums like AJ did/is? I think what attracted him to the general public was him knocking out people in spectacular fashion and looking like he was carved out of stone. Obviously he is going to get overhyped from that point on. we've all seen that happen with English footballers before. But I guess its easy to just say he's trash and Hearn overhyped him for cash. Makes you look hardcore. Winning the gold medal at the london Olympics made him popular with most folk here, even with folk that aren't into boxing

Yep, i remember that picture and article. I was shaking my head when i saw it. But everyone was fever AJ especially the tabloids.

Fury the new Ali

His talent could never match the fame and popularity. Sky and Hearn did a great job marketing him to the public, to people who don’t even like boxing. Fair play, they all made a lot of money. In all fairness, most British people I know that actually really love boxing never thought AJ was some elite fighter. But of course he had to be hyped and marketed as one to fill stadiums with casuals. You can’t fill stadiums by marketing the guy as just pretty good If all is needed is SKY and marketing then where are the other cash cows filling out stadiums like AJ did/is? I think what attracted him to the general public was him knocking out people in spectacular fashion and looking like he was carved out of stone. Obviously he is going to get overhyped from that point on. we've all seen that happen with English footballers before. But I guess its easy to just say he's trash and Hearn overhyped him for cash. Makes you look hardcore.

Here's Brits saying AJ was like Ali when he beat Liston: link to news story and here's the pic they posted on the front page: https://i.dailymail.co.uk/i/pix/2017/05/01/00/3FCA4F6E00000578-4461326-image-m-36_1493593896814.jpg and not just one paper either: here's another story in the telegraph - a reputable and one of the most popular newspapers in england: news link and again same pic: https://www.telegraph.co.uk/content/dam/boxing/2017/05/01/joshua-klitschko-ali-liston_trans_NvBQzQNjv4BqqVzuuqpFlyLIwiB6NTmJwfSVWeZ_vEN7c6bHu2jJnT8.png?imwidth=450 I said it from the start, they hyped him too much and put too much pressure on him, you could see it on his face before the bell was rung in the ruiz fight, out of his comfort zone without his adoring and screaming fans....the british press and fans ruin their own fighters and then discard them like trash when the honeymoon period is over What an utter disgrace.

His talent could never match the fame and popularity. Sky and Hearn did a great job marketing him to the public, to people who don’t even like boxing. Fair play, they all made a lot of money. In all fairness, most British people I know that actually really love boxing never thought AJ was some elite fighter. But of course he had to be hyped and marketed as one to fill stadiums with casuals. You can’t fill stadiums by marketing the guy as just pretty good