Will the Joshua loss be a wake call for the handlers of Spence and Crawford to get off their asses and make the fight sooner rather than later? We have already lost one Mega fight. I would be crushed to lose this one too due to a loss by one of them.
im not sure commercially the fight even does that great at this point
Crawfords #s haven't been great on ppv...and the anti pbc guys claim spence only sold alright cause he fought a Mexican(even though that's likely a crock of BS)
so what sense do it make if it only does "ok"?
al can make a good spence/porter fight for fox/showtime and then ppv Thurman/spence if they both win which will prob do ok since Thurman just ppv'd pac(these guys can be interchangeable..so if won loses the winner replaces them)......what incentive does haymon have to split ppv with Crawford when it prob just does ok?
Crawford needs the fight more than spence at this point....but spence would be better off taking the chance that it becomes big in another year or two
im not sure commercially the fight even does that great at this point
Crawfords #s haven't been great on ppv...and the anti pbc guys claim spence only sold alright cause he fought a Mexican(even though that's likely a crock of BS)
so what sense do it make if it only does "ok"?
al can make a good spence/porter fight for fox/showtime and then ppv Thurman/spence if they both win which will prob do ok since Thurman just ppv'd pac(these guys can be interchangeable..so if won loses the winner replaces them)......what incentive does haymon have to split ppv with Crawford when it prob just does ok?
Joshua was dropped by Wlad and took rounds to recover. The stamina issues were there as well. Nobody saw the Ruiz upset coming but I haven't seen Bud or Spence's noticable flaws yet. I haven't seen any of the guys around here make threads about them either.
I just told you. Both of them can be caught with punches in-between if you punch with them. And if you're heavy handed you might clip them and take them out. Spence was very hurt Vs Lartey and Bud was wobbled by Gamboa. These guys aren't invincible. This is boxing, anything can happen. You will get hit in the ring, these guys get hit on the regular. But ofc they are phenomenal fighters and I think Skill wise they are the 2 best in the division. And they should get it on as soon as possible because in boxing a disaster is always lurking around the corner
Almost no one thought Ruiz would KO Joshua. Spence and Crawford don't have granite chins, they have been clipped and hurt before. If the marination continues one of them can get clipped and KOd Vs a risky fighter or puncher. Everything can happen, it's boxing. History even tells us it will happen rather sooner than later.
Joshua was dropped by Wlad and took rounds to recover. The stamina issues were there as well. Nobody saw the Ruiz upset coming but I haven't seen Bud or Spence's noticable flaws yet. I haven't seen any of the guys around here make threads about them either.
NOPE!
Don't try to rush any and every fight just because AJ couldn't get it done. Based on how BOTH traveled overseas (Crawford to fight Burns and Spence Jr to fight Brook), both are much strong mentally than AJ clearly because both was able to go into hostel territory and walk out convincing winners
Also what we cannot do is PROTECT "BIG FIGHTS" they have to earn it and if they're as good as a lot of us think, then they will truly be the last 2 Standing for the big showdown. They have to still prove they're the best by beating Porter, Thurman, Pacquiao...
Unlike AJ and WIlder, they don't have all the belts between the 2
Who's gonna beat one of those guys though?
Almost no one thought Ruiz would KO Joshua. Spence and Crawford don't have granite chins, they have been clipped and hurt before. If the marination continues one of them can get clipped and KOd Vs a risky fighter or puncher. Everything can happen, it's boxing. History even tells us it will happen rather sooner than later.
It should be a wake up call to fans to stop anointing every young fighter with a belt. If Spence or Crawbob get exposed the way Joshua did, then that' a good thing. Just proves the 'mega fight' was never a 'mega fight'.
That's the problem with you guys. You think somehow because a fighter has a loss and got KOd they aren't any good. Wake up bro, fighters take losses and get knocked out. That's just boxing. Look at Julian Williams. He got his ass f#king KOd and then came back and whooped on a unified champion. The best need to fight the best at their best. Not want until someone else beats them. Because most of the time it's almost bound to happen and someone has your number.
Will the Joshua loss be a wake call for the handlers of Spence and Crawford to get off their asses and make the fight sooner rather than later? We have already lost one Mega fight. I would be crushed to lose this one too due to a loss by one of them.
I'd like to think so. But no, it won't.
Of course it should be. But I think the promoters are waiting for it to be a fight for all the belts. I think after Spence vs. Porter which Spence highly likely wins, Spence will than face the winner of Thurman vs. Pacquiao after in 1st quarter of 2020. Than he’ll fight Crawford after. Crawford’s likely path will be fighting Brook next, than maybe either Kavaliasukas or Collazo. If they both win their next few fights than it’ll happen in mid-late 2020.
I though the same when Arum was building up Juan Manuel Lopez and Gamboa a few years ago. I though for sure there was no one that can beat these guys at their weight so Arum was doing well building the fight. Then 12 losses Salido came along.
Loooool 12 losses Salido!!
And he did it twice!!
It should be a wake up call to fans to stop anointing every young fighter with a belt. If Spence or Crawbob get exposed the way Joshua did, then that' a good thing. Just proves the 'mega fight' was never a 'mega fight'.
I though the same when Arum was building up Juan Manuel Lopez and Gamboa a few years ago. I though for sure there was no one that can beat these guys at their weight so Arum was doing well building the fight. Then 12 losses Salido came along.
Valid point. Can't even disagree.
Valid point but Crawford and Spence are far better than AJ so its less likely one of them loses, especially in embarrassing fashion like AJ did.
I though the same when Arum was building up Juan Manuel Lopez and Gamboa a few years ago. I though for sure there was no one that can beat these guys at their weight so Arum was doing well building the fight. Then 12 losses Salido came along.
But that fight won't be a "mega" fight till they both have all the belts. AJ/Wilder had all the belts. Yea we would look at it like a megafight but no so much for general public till it hold more weight
I’m starting to think that both of them will be fighting at 154 already with either or both taking a loss or two already when that happens.
Kinda like Mayweather-Cotto in 2012