https://www.nytimes.com/2001/06/22/sports/boxing-rahman-must-fight-lewis-or-sit-for-18-months.html
A federal judge in Manhattan yesterday barred Hasim Rahman from fighting any other boxers for a year and a half unless he fulfilled a contractual obligation to give Lennox Lewis a rematch.
Thanks. Yeah, I just happened to read an article saying Ruiz was non committal on the rematch and that Hearn had handed the heavyweight division to Haymon. That's what made me ask the question.
As has already been said, no real reason for Ruiz not to take the rematch. He'll still be B-side, especially if it lands in the UK again, but he gets to make an asston of money, especially compared to what he just took. I don't foresee the belts being split up just yet either. We've seen before that the orgs jump at Hearn's command, especially when it comes to Joshua, and Hearn will want Joshua to be able to win back all three. I don't know if there are any pending mandatories or anything but those will probably be put on hold at least until the rematch is over. After that, who knows? Whoever's left holding those belts though, you can bet that they'll be pushing extra hard for Wilder before they run the risk of losing or having the belts split up by the alphabet clowns.
Didn't sue him big, no. He got his rematch, if he didn't Rahman would have lost his belt he wouldn't have had to pay him.
Ruiz would lose his belts if he fought someone else. He wouldn't have to pay a penny.
No. He wouldn’t be able to fight for a period of time. That’s all. Check Rahman Lewis rematch lawsuit.
IBF, IBO, WBA Super, WBO. Are you disregarding the IBO? I'm sick of the belts at this point. If belts get vacated and someone like Sergey Kuzmin or Agit Kabayel wins a title, you can guarentee the merry-go-round will start all over again.
Nobody counts the IBO
Didn’t Lewis sue someone big once when they never fought despite it being in the contract ?
Not sure how else it would work
Wouldn’t expect wba and co to get involved
It’s a legal contract dispute no?
Didn't sue him big, no. He got his rematch, if he didn't Rahman would have lost his belt he wouldn't have had to pay him.
Ruiz would lose his belts if he fought someone else. He wouldn't have to pay a penny.
Yeah I don't think that's how it works mate.
Didn’t Lewis sue someone big once when they never fought despite it being in the contract ?
Not sure how else it would work
Wouldn’t expect wba and co to get involved
It’s a legal contract dispute no?
Pretty sure he gets stripped of 2 of 3 titles if he refuses the rematch. If he takes the rematch, likely only gets stripped by 1 of 3
IBF, IBO, WBA Super, WBO. Are you disregarding the IBO? I'm sick of the belts at this point. If belts get vacated and someone like Sergey Kuzmin or Agit Kabayel wins a title, you can guarentee the merry-go-round will start all over again.
His next fight is contracted with Joshua unless Joshua says no
You basically get sued for a lot of money
Joshua can sue for loss of earnings
So 30m ish
I’m sure there would be more issues as well, loss of potential future earnings
I love how the Haymon crew are like, get sued but don’t give Joshua the rematch as are the ldbc community
They think this was a Douglas moment
I think it maybe was not, rematch is 50/50 imo
Yeah I don't think that's how it works mate.
He doesn't give Joshua the rematch or what if he tries to have a fight in between the rematch?
https://www.nytimes.com/2001/06/22/sports/boxing-rahman-must-fight-lewis-or-sit-for-18-months.html
A federal judge in Manhattan yesterday barred Hasim Rahman from fighting any other boxers for a year and a half unless he fulfilled a contractual obligation to give Lennox Lewis a rematch.
Yea. Plus, they don't have subscribers in the UK. To pull in subs they need the big fights to happen in the US. They for sure aren't doing that with 2pm fight cards.
I really believe this fughin rematch could be really huge
It’s got everything going for it
Can Ruiz do it again or will he fail
Can Joshua bounce back or is he shot
The Mexicans ( Americans ) will be all over it
Then you got the British coming in droves
So many angles , so many possibilities
But they gotta start advertising this as soon as possible
Late shows , sports centres , the Hurd , and on and on
I don’t blame Dazn at all for wanting in the States
This is where their laying those seeds , so wtf
This is the exact reason why they came to corner the market
I don’t see it any other way
They can blow this chit right off the roof , in Vegas , with a huge promotional machine
And let me tell you , everybody will be watching , even those tough guys who say they won’t
Those guys will make it a three day party
This can be really fughin huge
Yea. Plus, they don't have subscribers in the UK. To pull in subs they need the big fights to happen in the US. They for sure aren't doing that with 2pm fight cards.
Yea, some of us were talking about that this morning. Dazn HAS TO be wanting this in the states. Someone posted that AJ has one more fight in the dazn deal. Skipper said he wants it in the US. I really don't know how much control Hearn has here but I'm sure there's going to be a war behind the scenes over this. Hearn might even tell them, "Look, he'll re-sign with you after he wins but you have to let him fight in the UK to get those belts back."
Skipper has to know that for the fight to get maximum viewers and revenue, it can’t be on at noon on the west coast.
Yea, some of us were talking about that this morning. Dazn HAS TO be wanting this in the states. Someone posted that AJ has one more fight in the dazn deal. Skipper said he wants it in the US. I really don't know how much control Hearn has here but I'm sure there's going to be a war behind the scenes over this. Hearn might even tell them, "Look, he'll re-sign with you after he wins but you have to let him fight in the UK to get those belts back."
I don’t blame Dazn at all for wanting in the States
This is where their laying those seeds , so wtf
This is the exact reason why they came to corner the market
I don’t see it any other way
They can blow this chit right off the roof , in Vegas , with a huge promotional machine
And let me tell you , everybody will be watching , even those tough guys who say they won’t
Those guys will make it a three day party
This can be really fughin huge
Yea, some of us were talking about that this morning. Dazn HAS TO be wanting this in the states. Someone posted that AJ has one more fight in the dazn deal. Skipper said he wants it in the US. I really don't know how much control Hearn has here but I'm sure there's going to be a war behind the scenes over this. Hearn might even tell them, "Look, he'll re-sign with you after he wins but you have to let him fight in the UK to get those belts back."
The fights bigger now. They can literally pick the city. Vegas, LA, NYC are all on the table now. Besides AJ was supposed to conquer the US doe. Coming here getting beat up, then running home to get his titles back? Not a good look at all.
Just throwing it out their :
If their is a rematch , everything goes as planned , this fight has got to be made in North America
Dazn will not permit this fight getting made in the UK just for financial well being , I would believe
If I understood correctly, Joshua only fights on Sky in the Uk
Especially if he wins I’m sure Dazn would want the coverage the app would get fighting “ in the Mecca “
I’m assuming here , maybe I’m wrong
Yea, some of us were talking about that this morning. Dazn HAS TO be wanting this in the states. Someone posted that AJ has one more fight in the dazn deal. Skipper said he wants it in the US. I really don't know how much control Hearn has here but I'm sure there's going to be a war behind the scenes over this. Hearn might even tell them, "Look, he'll re-sign with you after he wins but you have to let him fight in the UK to get those belts back."
I thought people were being sarcastic when they mentioned the cards last night. Joshua was UP?!? And people want to talk **** about Wilder getting a draw? Lmfao
It’s a U.K. ref I’d be most worried about. Someone like in the Parker fight who won’t let andy fight on the inside?
Yea, I remember that. The ref literally warned Parker about punching AJ. After I heard about the inconceivable score cards last night, my hopes of Ruiz winning a rematch really sunk through the floor. I can imagine Hearn in the locker room telling him, "Look, you're covered. Just DON'T take any chances. As long as you're upright after 12 you'll have this."
Thing is, AJ was somehow leading on one card and only behind by one point on the other two, despite the knock downs. In the rematch you can add to that UK ref assistance, judges that will be hearing an all UK crowd... Literally, all Joshua has to do is keep distance and not get KO'd and he's champ again. Getting dropped a few times clearly doesn't matter.
Ruiz should be very concerned. However, the damages he'd have to pay from breech of contract would be in the tens of millions so it's not like he's got an option.
Just throwing it out their :
If their is a rematch , everything goes as planned , this fight has got to be made in North America
Dazn will not permit this fight getting made in the UK just for financial well being , I would believe
If I understood correctly, Joshua only fights on Sky in the Uk
Especially if he wins I’m sure Dazn would want the coverage the app would get fighting “ in the Mecca “
I’m assuming here , maybe I’m wrong
Thing is, AJ was somehow leading on one card and only behind by one point on the other two, despite the knock downs. In the rematch you can add to that UK ref assistance, judges that will be hearing an all UK crowd... Literally, all Joshua has to do is keep distance and not get KO'd and he's champ again. Getting dropped a few times clearly doesn't matter.
Ruiz should be very concerned. However, the damages he'd have to pay from breech of contract would be in the tens of millions so it's not like he's got an option.
I thought people were being sarcastic when they mentioned the cards last night. Joshua was UP?!? And people want to talk **** about Wilder getting a draw? Lmfao
It’s a U.K. ref I’d be most worried about. Someone like in the Parker fight who won’t let andy fight on the inside?