Al Haymon must be ecstatic now! got the last laugh.

Your instincts are right. Great post. I don't even follow the heavyweights. Just the way I saw it That all

Not so sure about the drawing power He has many casual fans , and casual fans are their for the moment Kind of like what have you done for me lately Boxing wise he was exposed to the Max Like I said earlier on , I thought he had more boxing skills and ring iq than what he showed tonite Hey , who am I to judge , maybe he comes back and becomes the greatest champ of all time I think not but you never know Your instincts are right. Great post. I don't even follow the heavyweights.

Hearn will be the one forcing it, if anyone. By not exercising the rematch, he essentially gives up the belts to stay within the PBC circle. That’s no good for Hearn, DAZN etc.. They will at least want the chance to get them back and regain some power and leverage. Yes I agree but watch some chit happening or IBF coming into it

JOshua said he wants the rematch immediately Bet you Hearn has something to say about that Hearn will be the one forcing it, if anyone. By not exercising the rematch, he essentially gives up the belts to stay within the PBC circle. That’s no good for Hearn, DAZN etc.. They will at least want the chance to get them back and regain some power and leverage.

Haymon was the biggest winner. Imagine how big a Ruiz-Wilder FOX PPV will be!

I suspect the odds will be pickem-ish, but I suspect I'll favor Ruiz myself. That said lets not forget who Ruiz is. He's literally 2019 Buster Douglas now & we know what happened to Buster after his big upset W. I could easily see Ruiz happy with his accomplishments & just phone it in in a rematch. Or in otherwards I'll take the under on Ruiz getting beaten within 2.5 fights cuz he's just not THAT guy. He's a fat lazy lacking in motivation in the past guy who's not gonna turn into some old school warrior off of a great W. If anything he'll get imposter syndrome & be 275lbs in the rematch with a real training camp or will go south soon even if he can repeat the Joshua W. Dude you are really wrong here. Ruiz and Parker are much more technically sound than Joshua. Go back and look at the Parker fight. Parker stunned AJ with a solid right hook and later a uppercut that had AJ seriously hurt. Had it not been for the Ref stepping in a few times to save sorry @$$ AJ he could have gotten popped then. Ruiz was the same guy he was against Parker except Parker has the skills and endurance to go 12 rounds without being put on his @$$ or looking dead tired. Ruiz barely lost to Parker and Parker got robbed vs AJ due to ref interference when AJ was hurt and the Ref calling minute time outs to let AJ clear his head. Say what you want about Ruiz but he has star power being the first Mexican Hwy champ. How can you not like this guy??? He's like your Super Nice Fat Mexican friend you used to ride bikes with to go to 7-11 with to buy Slurpies. When the bigger kids would try to steal your bike and his Slurpie he would go into Mexican assassin mode and to defend his friends and his Slurpie. I guess the lesson here is to never steal a Fat Mexican kids slurpie or dont under estimate fighters who look like Catholic alter boys but the point is Rivas isnt a flash in the pan. Ruiz and Parker now have raised there status due to the victory. AJ can comeback but its not like him losing is going to kill boxing. The same people who talk about the glory days of boxing are salty about fighters being undefeated when they match up. Im sorry but Ruiz did what s champ does and thats beat the best to be the best. Ruiz is going to be a favorite and deserves a third fight even if he loses. He didnt win by fluke. He systemstically broke that man down to the point that he now fear Ruiz in the ring. AJ got his cookies took at lunch time by the Fat Black Bully aka Jarrell Miller then when he got suspended from school the Fat Mexican kid thought you drank his Slurpie and he spazzed out and kicked AJs @$$. It was a VERY bad day for AJ who had just transfered schools and was trying to fit in and make new friends. This fight opens the door for more than just a Wilder vs AJ showdown and make fights like Parker vs Fury and Ruiz vs Wilder relevant. Parker could outpoint Wilder if given the chance and Ruiz has the power to hurt anybody. Money wise I find it funny that people can say that Mexicans are boxings biggest fans and see the success DLH, Chavez, and Canelo had and say Ruiz cant be a bigger star even though he has the biggest historical victory out of all of them. Ruiz is a effing cash cow in a PPV Vegaa fight. Half of California will be at his next fight if he beats AJ again. It could make him more popular than Wilder and Canelo. Canelo didn't even beat Floyd and he got more popular. Ruiz is Hwy champ and there is no reason unless AJ embarrasses him in the UK for him not to be a big star and worth a big PPV on May 5th weekend. Ruiz is a legit champ and America/Mexico should be proud. AJ is the lazy bum you speak of. Camps in Miami, not taking his opponent serious, and having the cardio of a couch potato lead to a lack of focus that lead to last night. Dont disrespect Ruiz because AJ fought like a bum. Call out AJ for not having heart with things got tough in America. AJ is juiced to the gills or at least pumped so full of GNC supplements that he probably *****$ pure protein whey and puts it right back into the blender. He needs to put down the weight and move to Vegas or Michigan. Have Floyd Sr teach you how to shoulder roll or have Johnathan Banks teach you how to move your head in an orthodox style. There are levels and Dojos in this boxing game. He needs the proper training so can he learn like Lennox did with Manny Stewart. If he wants to compete he better ditch those English guys who constantly produce losers and fighters who always end up on their @$$ (Fury, Brooks, Khan, Hatton, AJ) Fury is the only guy with any defensive skills. AJ needs to learn from the best or stay in the UK fighting club bouncer and body builders. Hearn better humble AJ and bring his sorry @$$ to Kronk or continue to get his @$$ kicked.

yeah andy ruiz is a haymon fighter too, all the pride and disrespect by eddie and these pathetic fanatics backfired and im not stopping, now they want to talk about some CLASS???

Sure he must be ecstatic that his fighter won, but Ruiz will have to also win the rematch or else it won't really matter. But Ruiz himself is the most who is the most ecstatic. Can you imagine the type of offers he will get if he wins the rematch? DAZN may legit offer him 20M+ for like a three or four fight deal. If the Wilder undisputed fight is on the table, he is going to get a crazy pay day there. Even if Ruiz loses the rematch, he got himself some big future fights off this performance/win.

I suspect the odds will be pickem-ish, but I suspect I'll favor Ruiz myself. That said lets not forget who Ruiz is. He's literally 2019 Buster Douglas now & we know what happened to Buster after his big upset W. I could easily see Ruiz happy with his accomplishments & just phone it in in a rematch. Or in otherwards I'll take the under on Ruiz getting beaten within 2.5 fights cuz he's just not THAT guy. He's a fat lazy lacking in motivation in the past guy who's not gonna turn into some old school warrior off of a great W. If anything he'll get imposter syndrome & be 275lbs in the rematch with a real training camp or will go south soon even if he can repeat the Joshua W. I hope not for him He needs to keep it real without doubt Hopefully propels him to train harder I thought he actually looked pretty good tonight considering he weighed 268

Idk man. Eddie seems like he's only thinking about a rematch so far, but maybe that changes. While it was a beatdown at a certain point lets not forget that Joshua had Ruiz down first & maybe being a lil too over ambitious with ending the fight is what got Joshua caught & eventually lead to him being the one catching an L. So that being the case I kinda think Team Joshua sees a path to victory in a rematch if they are just more cautious/smarter when they hurt Ruiz. So idk that they will change their mind on a rematch. If they do I'd bet it goes sideways with some "injury" Joshua needs fixed over some "we don't want a rematch so soon" angle doe so they'll fit it in sneakier to look better to the public. Cuz part of this thing with Ruiz is I think there is a high probability Ruiz has some Buster Douglas post-Tyson W turnaround that makes him an easier guy in the rematch so giving Ruiz a lil more time or rope to hang himself with might be +EV for Team Joshua. I think if theirs an immediate rematch , Ruiz will win again Would be in Hearns best interest to keep Joshua away from Ruiz After the knockdown to Ruiz , he seemed to have no fear of Joshua and that’s not a good thing I think that momentum would carry over if an immediate rematch was to happen

Yeah what about them? Ortiz for example, he was already offered 7 Mill by aj, cuz aj stock has dropped does that give ortiz the leverage to demand 10 or 15 now? Surely if Joshua stock has dropped ortiz should be set to receive even less. Joshua lost, his stock took a hit but are you suggesting now he has lost he needs to pay people more? No not at all but he will bend with his demands Maybe it’s Hearn who will have to bend but nobody will want to give in to any of their demands Purses will be much closer after tonite’s fiasco

Mark my words Watch in the future how much his stock has dropped Fugh Wilder , what about with Fury Usyk , Ortiz etc etc Yeah what about them? Ortiz for example, he was already offered 7 Mill by aj, cuz aj stock has dropped does that give ortiz the leverage to demand 10 or 15 now? Surely if Joshua stock has dropped ortiz should be set to receive even less. Joshua lost, his stock took a hit but are you suggesting now he has lost he needs to pay people more?

When Wilder was a clear B side project seemed to think he should get 50% just to make the fight. Why would that change if Joshua regains his titles? Suddenly the B side gets less? In any case. A side/B side stuff isn't about having a zero in the column. It's bringing commercial value. In that scenario, Joshua would be a two time heavyweight champion, having just sold out MSG, outearning Wilder by multiples for years. And everyone loves a bit of adversity don't they? This loss is huge news, and a rematch will be big too.

I don't think Haymon is that vindictive or hostile. But it should be fun to see how things work out if Ruiz can repeat his performance in a rematch & with how one sided it was I'm even wondering if Joshua will want a rematch in 6-7mos. JOshua said he wants the rematch immediately Bet you Hearn has something to say about that

Bend to what? Wilders demands? Joshua isn't even a champ right now. If he beats ruiz in a rematch what changes between between wilder and joshua? I didn't see wilder dropping his demands when he didn't beat fury. Last night has changed alot but I'm not sure whose leverage over Joshua has changed other than maybe ruiz but ruiz signed a rematch clause so there's not much leveraging to be done there either. I'm just trying to figure out what you meant by leverage. Mark my words Watch in the future how much his stock has dropped Fugh Wilder , what about with Fury Usyk , Ortiz etc etc

aj lost everything he had going for himself tonight. and to make it all worse he spit out his mouthpiece n gave up Yeah your not answering my question.

I know your a Wilder hater I don’t care about that but the whole heavyweight division has been shook up Your Hearn and AJ will bend a little more than they would yesterday That’s how Bend to what? Wilders demands? Joshua isn't even a champ right now. If he beats ruiz in a rematch what changes between between wilder and joshua? I didn't see wilder dropping his demands when he didn't beat fury. Last night has changed alot but I'm not sure whose leverage over Joshua has changed other than maybe ruiz but ruiz signed a rematch clause so there's not much leveraging to be done there either. I'm just trying to figure out what you meant by leverage.

I'm just trying to figure out about this leverage thing. What leverage? Whose leverage. No point saying something and not actually explaining what your talking about. aj lost everything he had going for himself tonight. and to make it all worse he spit out his mouthpiece n gave up

Obviously I'm not privy to the details of the contract for this fight, but when there's a rematch clause is it typical for the A-side to retain the right to control the venue, purse split and other such details? If not, it might not necessarily follow that the rematch will be in the UK.

lmaooooooooooox99999999 I'm just trying to figure out about this leverage thing. What leverage? Whose leverage. No point saying something and not actually explaining what your talking about.