Firstly, I'm a Joshua fan so i'm not looking to score points.
At the final knockdown it seemed as though Joshua wasn't completely out of it, but he was using spitting out his gum shield to gain some extra recovery time?
Due to either inexperience or arrogance I don't think he thought the referee would wave off the fight and would wait for the shield to be sorted.
It's a great result for boxing that the referee didn't allow any extra time and called it off.
I'm gutted Joshua has lost, but I still feel he's taken the bigger risks than Wilder. Sometimes the risks don't pay off.
its hilarious watching sid the kid in full meltdown....its also kind of sad at the same time...i dunno...im torn
yeah hes hurt, just imagine him in his daily life, not speaking to people at work, eating his hot dog in the corner, doing hella push ups cursing out wilder.
:rofl: :rofl: You can't call timeout in boxing. Look at the first 3 knockdowns. He gets up and follows the refs instructions. He doesn't walk to the corner. You can't just say **** it I'm taking more than my allotted 10 seconds.
He wasn't calling a time out. It's just the way he reacted. Stop making it out to be something it wasn't.
I stand by my post. You may have been watching the Espanol broadcast.
No, the British broadcast in HD. It's you who looks like you watched a dodgy stream considering all the things you claimed happened when they clearly didn't.
No, you can't walk to the corner to gather yourself after you've been knocked down. You get up, the ref tells you to raise your hands, he checks the sturdiness, wipes off your gloves and tells you to fight. The way Ruiz did when he was knocked down.
AJ got up. Turned around and went to his corner and said something to his corner then rested on the ropes. It was 20 seconds from the time the of the knockdown until the fight was called off.
Why can't you walk to the corner? Is there a rule to show me where you can't?
AJ doing that was just him having a word with himself and asking how the f3ck this happened. He was sighing walking to the corner. You may not like it, but it's no reason to stop the fight. It was just a spur of the moment reaction. He wasn't doing it because he wanted out. He's been down so was just gathering himself.
Let's take a rational look at all four (lol) Joshua knockdowns
Numbers 1,2, and 3: He gets up, puts his gloves up and in front of his face. Ref asks him to "come to me" and Joshua takes a couple steps towards him all three times, although after the third knockdown he raised up his eyebrows for whatever reason.
Number 4:AJ spits out his mouthpiece. Joshua gets up, turns his back to the ref and walks slowly towards the corner as instructed by the ref and looking to his corner for aid, advice, encouragement, whatever. He then turns around, and breathing heavily put his arms on the ropes. DOES NOT raise his gloves like the three other times. Ref is yelling at him to turn around. Ref asks if he is "ready to box" TWICE. Joshua mumbles yes or I'm ready, then, looking down, says "yes" again. Ref waves off the fight. Joshua says "What" then doesn't argue about it.
Good stoppage. The fighter was looking for a way to end it, hoping the ref would help.
Watch some Joe Calzaghe UK fights, then tell me this was a BS stoppage in comparison.
Wrong. The ref does not ask AJ to walk to him after the first KD. The second one he does. The 3rd KD was basically AJ being pulled down from the back of his neck and not from a shot. The ref again doesn't ask him to walk forward but asks him to put his gloves up. The 4th KD was AJ being pulled down again and not from a clean shot. Then comes AJ in the corner when the ref asks if he wants to fight With AJ nodding his head and saying yes. The ref after a few seconds more stops the fight. The ref did not ask him to put his gloves up like he did with another KD, nor did he ask him to walk forward. He asked if he was alright and AJ answered him yes because that was the only question he was asking him.
These are the facts of what actually happened because I've got the fight on right now. What you're talking about I don't know because the ref on KD 1 and 3 did not ask AJ to walk forward. Watch again and see if you care about facts.
AJ was tired, but he wasn't quitting nor looking for a way out. That's fantasy.
no id be honest and say wilder was getting destroyed and didn't want anymore
Don't lie, you're never honest. Especially Wilder fans. You'd be screaming blue murder and calling it corruption to get Wilder out of the way. We both know that.
hes used to being pampered in the uk, the uk ref would have washed off his mouth piece and bought him extra time, its understandable as its where hes a big name and basically king but he thought it would work in America and it didn't.
Wilder is the one who gets extra time, remember? And that was in the US.
Which ref in the UK gave AJ extra time? I must have missed that one.
Where was the New York doctor looking at AJ after the 3rd round the way they did Wilder? The excuses were that it was policy in New York. Care to explain this bullshlt?
Corruption is easy to see. But the mad extremists will say otherwise and accuse others when no evidence exists. Get with the real world as this place you live in isn't compatible with the reality we normal people live in.
Yes he was absolutely gassed. I dont think Ruiz has that much power and really hurt AJ, but just outworked him, AJ got tired and tried to buy time with the mouthguard, then finally quit.
Too funny.
it wasn't a bullsht stoppage even eddie hearn agreed with it, AJs body language told us everything we need to know. he was too tired n beat up to continue. HE QUIT.
If he was too beat up to continue, and it was a good stoppage, then how the hell can he quit?
Do you even know what you're saying? F3ck me this place is grotesque.
AJ was looking at the ref with a clear head. Yes he was tired, but you don't stop fights like this due to tiredness.
If this was Wilder in the UK getting stopped like that, every American would be screaming blue murder.
no id be honest and say wilder was getting destroyed and didn't want anymore
So what he walked to the corner. It's not illegal is it or against the rules? He was just gathering himself together.
hes used to being pampered in the uk, the uk ref would have washed off his mouth piece and bought him extra time, its understandable as its where hes a big name and basically king but he thought it would work in America and it didn't.
Didn't notice that myself if i'm being honest. I'll watch again to see.
But it was a bullshlt stoppage. I was shocked when the ref stopped it like that.
it wasn't a bullsht stoppage even eddie hearn agreed with it, AJs body language told us everything we need to know. he was too tired n beat up to continue. HE QUIT.
He shouldn't have walked to the corner. The fighter who does the knockdown walks to the neutral corner, not the fighter who got knockdown. He was supposed to get up and respond to the refs instructions. Instead he got up and took a timeout
So what he walked to the corner. It's not illegal is it or against the rules? He was just gathering himself together.
Post-fight, @EddieHearn felt Anthony Joshua was slowly recovering until something happened in the 6th. I believe he was referring to the below bodyshot from Andy Ruiz which appeared to zap whatever life AJ had left. Thereafter, he was there for the taking. #JoshuaRuiz pic.twitter.com/tDNaWIBbxG— Gorilla Productions (@GPboxing) 2 de junio de 2019
joshua was done
Great clip. I remember seeing that body shot and clapping for it. At that point in the fight, I knew that body shot was going to be highly effective
Yeah, the ref should have stopped it when AJ walked to the corner after the ref hit 8.
You get an 8-count then you walk to the ref and show the ref you're steady.
You walk away from him after the 8 count, you should be counted out.
Yeah bro, and to top it off he spit his mouth piece out during the count, before walking away.
Didn't notice that myself if i'm being honest. I'll watch again to see.
But it was a bullshlt stoppage. I was shocked when the ref stopped it like that.
Yeah, the ref should have stopped it when AJ walked to the corner after the ref hit 8.
You get an 8-count then you walk to the ref and show the ref you're steady.
You walk away from him after the 8 count, you should be counted out.
Diego Corrales got away of spitting his gum shield out a few times and never gets called out about it.
Uh he got more heat than AJ did for sure.
The announcers were talking about it. The boxing forums were talking all about it.
Do people regularly talk about it in 2019? no because it was more than 10 years ago at this point. Of course we are talking about AJ pulling that chit because he did it yesterday.
Yes he was absolutely gassed. I dont think Ruiz has that much power and really hurt AJ, but just outworked him, AJ got tired and tried to buy time with the mouthguard, then finally quit.
I really don’t think he was intentionally wasting time because the right ref rightfully called it off. If he has been wasting time he would have ensured he was ready within then ten count and then the ref gives him extra time putting the shield back in. That never happened, he didn’t appear aware enough to know exactly where the count was at