Ryan Garcia beefing with his Manager. Manager takes him to arbitration

Great Point! Never even thought about this but yeah I can understand this side as well! Managers, Promoters or whatever do put themselves in debt trying to make some of these fighters a STAR only for them to jump to someone else right when they're on the Brink of Stardom Exactly why Cameron Dunkin is now a Promoter instead of just a Manager after losing so many fighters over the years it takes roughly $250k or so to develop a fighter from a pro-debut to 20-0. More if he has an Olympic pedigree, was a well known amateur, is a lefty, or has a high KO percentage. That money has to come from somewhere. And a promoter (or manager) can expect to break even or turn a profit on less than 1 in 20 fighters they develop. Every promoter and manager is trying to find the next Mayweather or the next Pacquiao to subsidize the rest of their stable. There was something that came out in the Golden Boy-Haymon lawsuit if I remember correctly the only fighter Golden Boy was making a profit on was Canelo. Every other fighter was a minus sign........

Do you have any proof of this? A screen shot or anyone else reporting it? Ryan has tweets saying he wants to fight and Steve reporting that Golden Boy is the one who can't schedule a fight until the manager issue is resolved not that Ryan is telling Golden boy he isn't fighting. Not calling you liar but need to see proof that Ryan is the one saying he won't fight. Yeah actually I have the screen shot. If you of someone can pm me on how to crop it on to the forum and i’ll produce it.

There's a flip side to that coin. Another common situation in this business is fighters who get financial backing in the beginning, then once they start making some decent money, they get amnesia about their contracts. Not saying that is the case here, because I dont know, but its relatively common......... Great Point! Never even thought about this but yeah I can understand this side as well! Managers, Promoters or whatever do put themselves in debt trying to make some of these fighters a STAR only for them to jump to someone else right when they're on the Brink of Stardom Exactly why Cameron Dunkin is now a Promoter instead of just a Manager after losing so many fighters over the years

Ryan deleted a couple of tweets last night. “I’m not fighting until I get what I’m worth. Point blank. Period” And “I make in the deep 6 figures for social media deals on my IG. Boxing has to at least match that.” Do you have any proof of this? A screen shot or anyone else reporting it? Ryan has tweets saying he wants to fight and Steve reporting that Golden Boy is the one who can't schedule a fight until the manager issue is resolved not that Ryan is telling Golden boy he isn't fighting. Not calling you liar but need to see proof that Ryan is the one saying he won't fight.

Ryan deleted a couple of tweets last night. “I’m not fighting until I get what I’m worth. Point blank. Period” And “I make in the deep 6 figures for social media deals on my IG. Boxing has to at least match that.”

There's a flip side to that coin. Another common situation in this business is fighters who get financial backing in the beginning, then once they start making some decent money, they get amnesia about their contracts. Not saying that is the case here, because I dont know, but its relatively common......... Yep, I'm thinking that Ryan's getting real money through his face/social media stardom, and now that he's paid he's thinking his manager doesn't deserve a cut anymore.

Ryan and his father are classless aholes. Ryan used to be sponsored when he was an amateur. His sponsor paid for almost everything. When he turned pro, his former sponsor called him. Ryan told the former sponsor he can't talk to him anymore. The former sponsor was told to go through Ryan's new manager if he wanted to talk to Ryan. Ryan did not even give his old sponsor tickets to his fights. He's a d!ck.

Common it boxing sadly! Young guys turn pro, sign with certain people thinking they can help their careers and help make them stars, then as you mature and become smarter you realize that they're all FULL OF SH#T I think the Devin Haney route is the way to go but not everybody is fortunate enough to have a father like Bill Haney who has EXPERIENCE as a Manager Best of luck to Ryan hopefully he clears that situation up. Currently have talents like Boots Ennis on the shelf because of a similar situation with a "Hole In The Wall Promoter" There's a flip side to that coin. Another common situation in this business is fighters who get financial backing in the beginning, then once they start making some decent money, they get amnesia about their contracts. Not saying that is the case here, because I dont know, but its relatively common.........

Some managers are just snakes and are yes-men to promoters. Michael Koncz is my #1 pick for useless managers, guy was basically Bob Arum's mouthpiece for years. Leonard Ellerbee is up there too but at least he held Floyd's feet down when he did sit ups. IIRC Victor Ortiz's manager took 30-40% right off the top.

Whats the biggest jobs he's done out of the ring? Obviously I know he's moving outside of boxing, but idk what he's doing outside the ring truth be told outside of being the king of prospects on SM. Modeling and magazine spreads He was in teen vogue and did a add with Pop Superstar Dua Lipa https://www.boxingscene.com/forums/showthread.php?t=779187 How do you top a top 10 single? Cover star @DuaLipa talks setting and exceeding expectations for yourself in our April feature. Link in bio. ��: santiagoandmauricio Una publicación compartida de Teen Vogue (@teenvogue) el 18 Abr, 2018 a las 5:15 PDT He had a spread in Flaunt Magazine https://www.flaunt.com/content/ryan-garcia He walked the runway for Tommy Hilfger https://www.latimes.com/sports/boxing/la-sp-ryan-garcia-boxing-20180831-story.html Ryan Garcia is a model fighter who would like to be champion Ryan Garcia has an appointment next week to walk the New York Fashion Week runway for Tommy Hilfiger. He also has an upcoming spread in Flaunt magazine and a major commercial deal starting in February.

Another “celebrity”....GTFOH

Whats the biggest jobs he's done out of the ring? Obviously I know he's moving outside of boxing, but idk what he's doing outside the ring truth be told outside of being the king of prospects on SM. He got his own TV show produced by Brat. It's a teeny bopper show where he plays a highschool kid who is boxer. https://www.latimes.com/sports/boxing/la-sp-ryan-garcia-youtube-series-20190304-story.html%3foutputType=amp Ryan Garcia’s new YouTube series maintains the boxer’s high exposure MAR 04, 2019 | 9:10 AM Ryan Garcia’s new YouTube series maintains the boxer’s high exposure Ryan Garcia, center, and the cast of YouTube's "On the Ropes." (Rory Clark / Brat Inc.) Ryan Garcia continues to develop his skills in the ring, but when it comes to keeping himself in the public consciousness, there may be no better boxer. Garcia, 20, who has more than 2 million Instagram followers, last week debuted in “On the Ropes,” a new YouTube series produced by digital video studio Brat Inc. “That’s why we did the show,” Brat co-founder Rob Fishman said. “He’s a star.” Garcia plays Sonny Mendoza, a highly studious high school student intensely committed to earning a scholarship into a respected college when he crosses paths with a classmate, Jackie, played by Bella Shepard. In the first episode, which has already generated nearly 500,000 views, Garcia’s character — who knows boxing only as a way to complement his typically intense workouts — needs Jackie’s help on a school project. He shadows her to the underground boxing world and when her boyfriend gets knocked down, Garcia’s character steps in and has his first fight. “It’s the story of someone who has dreams and ambitions on two fronts: as an academic achiever and an athlete, trying to reconcile those two passions when suddenly they both come into focus,” Fishman said. As The Times reported recently, Brat received $30 million in new financing, helping the new company accelerate its production of after-school shows aimed at “Gen-Z” viewers — mostly girls — who’ve defected from television. “We’re always on the hunt for marquee talent who can do a show, and Ryan was always on our radar based on his traction on Instagram and elsewhere, so we developed this show around him,” Fishman said. The second episode of the eight-episode series arrives at 3 p.m. Monday on YouTube.

With the way Garcia acts on IG his manager is probably his lover too

That's if he ends up being the real deal. Right now plenty of young fighters around his weight classes are seen as better fighters. His earning potential is definitely huge though...As long as he delivers in the ring. You could say that for every fighter. So far his career's been moved perfectly. He already has a lot of revenue streams despite such a young age. He hasn't banked big money fight purses because he ain't won a title yet and is still on his prospect fighter contract. But he got a big signing bonus because he was a blue Chip prospect and there was a bidding war with all the top promoters begging to sign him. And because of all the exposure he's gotten in such a short time fighting he got all kinds of endorsements, acting jobs, modeling jobs. He's already more paid outside of boxing then most world champs and definitely more paid then any other prospect. It doesn't matter if you think someone else is better my point is nobody has bigger ceiling. If he and all these young fighters reach their full potential nobody is being paid as much as he will. The money he has already made is just scratching the surface to the money he will make later. Most of these young fighters need a world title to become famous and get money that's the normal progression of a fighter. The title and big fights hopefully get you there...well he already has both without a title yet. lol Their ceiling is world champ and one of the top guys in boxing. Ryan ceiling is not just a star but the face of boxing. The next canelo, the next Oscar, etc better to get any snakes out your circle now before he is really seeing stuipd money

The one silver lining is he is learning all this now rather then late in his career. His ceiling is Canelo money. He is already more famous them most world champs, already selling out venues and has endorsements, pop magazine spreads his own TV show. Imagine the money he will be making once he gets a strap around his waist? Better squable over thousands when you just turned 20 then millions in your 30's. That's if he ends up being the real deal. Right now plenty of young fighters around his weight classes are seen as better fighters. His earning potential is definitely huge though...As long as he delivers in the ring.

The one silver lining is he is learning all this now rather then late in his career. His ceiling is Canelo money. He is already more famous them most world champs, already selling out venues and has endorsements, pop magazine spreads his own TV show. Imagine the money he will be making once he gets a strap around his waist? Better squable over thousands when you just turned 20 then millions in your 30's.

Heard his manager on a podcast a while back.... I'd never heard of him before, he owns Legendz gym in SoCal. Wonder what the story is, because Garcia's careers been coming along nice.

Common it boxing sadly! Young guys turn pro, sign with certain people thinking they can help their careers and help make them stars, then as you mature and become smarter you realize that they're all FULL OF SH#T I think the Devin Haney route is the way to go but not everybody is fortunate enough to have a father like Bill Haney who has EXPERIENCE as a Manager Best of luck to Ryan hopefully he clears that situation up. Currently have talents like Boots Ennis on the shelf because of a similar situation with a "Hole In The Wall Promoter"

1st thing these young prospects need to do b4 turning pro is retain a Lawyer b4 anything else.

First Ennis and now Garcia? Damn, youngsters already having promotional/managerial issues. Shame.