Comments Thread For: Hearn on Wilder-Ortiz: It's Embarrassing, Why Not Fight Joshua?

Wilder vs Josh isn't 50/50 today and will never be 50/50. Wilder and his fan girls need to stop dreaming if they really want to see the fight. Joshua has Ruiz this Saturday, Kubrat Pulev is likely next, and then he's likely looking at the Charr-Bryan winner as the called WBA mandatory (with the Oquendo owed fight hanging over his head like Domocles' sword), and then Usyk if the WBO comes calling. 5 fights lined up, and not a one of them that the American public (or really the UK public, tbh) gives a **** about, with all set to be forced on him, lol. All that gets avoided (at least for now) the moment that Joshua sits down with Wilder and makes the deal. After all that bull**** that Joshua's camp put Wilder through, the price to make the deal has now gone to 50/50 (or something near that). Fight it however you want, lol

its a standing offer but anytime joshua approaches wilder to talk about it he signs to fight some old bum immediately. That hasn't been the approach not one time; maybe folks laughing in Joshua's face now may have changed the perspective, but I doubt it. Rich to see you call Luis Ortiz a bum though, lol. Wilder will have his fight, pencilled in for September, and then Wilder has said that he'll have the rest of the year free. Joshua has his fight Saturday, he'll likely fight again in November, and then he'll be free too. Nothing wrong with Joshua having his fight, coming to Alabama vs LSU, and have a real powwow with Wilder after the press run.

what should have happened is..... the top three guys..... Wilder, Fury, Joshua, are not fighting..... for now so..... let them do their thing for 2-3 more fights in the meantime..... Povetkin should fight Whyte..... with the winner facing Ortiz the winner of Povetkin/Whyte vs Ortiz..... is the 4th man in a tourney, along with Wilder Fury and Joshua that way..... fans have something worth waiting for..... and they have assurances those fights will happen..... and that way we will eventually have clarity at heavyweight..... what the fcuk are the sanctioning bodies doing..... ?

Again you say Wilder was low balled, ignoring the fact he actually accepted the offer, he said it himself? From what I recall the dazn offer was $20M for breazeale, where as he only made $10M on Showtime, is this not correct? So a more acturate timeline would be: dazn $20M(breazeale) + $40M(Joshua) + $40M(Joshua) = with wins undisputed HW champ Wilder $10M(breazeale) + ?(Ortiz) + ?() = unless third fight is with Joshua hes basically same place he is now I haven't heard Hearn say Wilder would make more managing himself, where is that? As for Haymon, Espinoza, Finkel, Arum saying that, what exactly do you think they would say about a rival promoter/broadcaster? Again, I'm not from the UK or US, I don't have a dog in the fight, I just want to see the best fight each other. You seem to be pretty worked up over this. nope I have seen two reports suggesting that Wilder made $19m for Breazeale..... and no, I cannot find them..... I have looked since also..... Espinoza confirmed that Wilder is already making similar money to the DAZN offer at this point, Wilder is obviously not stupid enough to leave too much money sitting on the table..... it could be that he trusts his advisers on small differences, but will obviously be in the same ballpark..... and he is well-aware of the DAZN offer..... so yea, I just think it is absurd that a few dumb excuse-making kids on the internet think that they know better than top experienced professionals

So your argument is that Wilder will lose money and be in the red if he fights Joshua :pat: But if Wilder fights tomato cans like Ruiz and Ortiz he'll make more money :pat: :crackhead no, my argument is that Team Wilder are the best in the business they are the guys who guided Mayweathers phenomenal career my argument is..... it is absurd that a few dumb excuse-making kids on the internet think they know better than top experienced professionals also, my argument is..... the..... " I know better than Team Wilder " fukwittery..... ..... does not erase the fact that Team Moron killed that fight TWICE last year..... once when they had Wilder on the hook IN THE UK for $15m LMAO THAT, is my argument !!

Wilder knows Ortiz will actually man up, unlike aj who turned down 40-50 million to fight wilder after months of stringing wilder along. Joshua needs to get a reality check. He could have fought Ortiz himself but instead chose to fight an easy fight against a taco eating pig. We all know he wasn’t gonna fight wilder later this year. He’s gonna take that whyte rematch of course. Wilder isn’t gonna let Hearn string him along again with some bogus multi fight contract crap. Aj is a coward that fears both wilder and fury. He knows wilder knocks him cold and that fury makes him look like a bewildered caveman inside the ring.

I agree, good post its just life these days we don't ever get the fights we want! Agreed....

He is a great replacement for AJ . Of course he isn’t a bum but what does Wilder have to prove knocking him out again. I think Whyte is more of a test for AJ than Ortiz but I would rather see AJ fight Ortiz as they have already fought. Just like I would rather Wilder fight Whyte than Ortiz for exactly the same reason. Nobody wants to see rematches that are foregone conclusions I agree, good post its just life these days we don't ever get the fights we want!

these same guys were justifying aj whyte 2 What same guys? I’ve never rated Whyte. You have me confused with someone else pal

A month ago you all were supposed to be trying to fight ortiz and everyone defended it as a good fight, now wilders fighting him again hes back to being a 50 year old bum. He is a great replacement for AJ . Of course he isn’t a bum but what does Wilder have to prove knocking him out again. I think Whyte is more of a test for AJ than Ortiz but I would rather see AJ fight Ortiz as they have already fought. Just like I would rather Wilder fight Whyte than Ortiz for exactly the same reason. Nobody wants to see rematches that are foregone conclusions

Hearn: Why not fight Joshua? Wilder/Fury/Ortiz: One of the reasons is having to deal with you. Another is paying on the basis of past paydays rather than a decent split from the amount to be generated on THIS fight, not past ones. Dillian Whyte: Low payday because you favour AJ, even though YOU are my promotor too. Bums: Sure, give us good pay and we'll show up for a beating and collect the cheque.

Now I’m not sure if Luis Ortiz can beat any top guys simply because he is old and Wilder has beat out the energy he once had. Was he the best replacement for the 1st of June? Absolutely. I believe AJ destroys the likes of Ortiz but he has to prove it. Wilder obliterated Ortiz. He does not have to,right a wrong. If he announced to fight Fury I would still be pissed but I would respect his choice and potentially it maybe a harder match up than Joshua so no complaints here. However ,Ortiz, cmon. I’m only reacting like this because Wilder ‘s tune has changed. Hearn may well be blamed but right now he seems more keen than Team Wilder reasonable reply and opinion. What a rare treat on this site. Lol

if Ortiz were to face ruiz or Miller, who'd be the favorite to win?? I want wilder vs Joshua but let's not act as if Joshua is out here tearing it up and facing top competition. Wilder and fury have already faced each other, why hasn't Joshua faced either one yet? Spoiler alert - Hearn is the answer to that question. Now I’m not sure if Luis Ortiz can beat any top guys simply because he is old and Wilder has beat out the energy he once had. Was he the best replacement for the 1st of June? Absolutely. I believe AJ destroys the likes of Ortiz but he has to prove it. Wilder obliterated Ortiz. He does not have to,right a wrong. If he announced to fight Fury I would still be pissed but I would respect his choice and potentially it maybe a harder match up than Joshua so no complaints here. However ,Ortiz, cmon. I’m only reacting like this because Wilder ‘s tune has changed. Hearn may well be blamed but right now he seems more keen than Team Wilder

if Ortiz were to face ruiz or Miller, who'd be the favorite to win?? I want wilder vs Joshua but let's not act as if Joshua is out here tearing it up and facing top competition. Wilder and fury have already faced each other, why hasn't Joshua faced either one yet? Spoiler alert - Hearn is the answer to that question. these same guys were justifying aj whyte 2

Ortiz looked 50 years old in his last fight, and Wilder could've fought Joshua for way more money. The Ortiz rematch is still probably a decent fight, but it's not as important as a match for the undisputed status against Joshua. he didn't look the best but he didn't 50 years old man stop it. Look how average pedvtkin looked in his fight before AJ. And this aj fight was never going to happen until 2020 or 2021, aj and hearn took the politics road which equals making more money before the big fight, now wilder is... so I think we should all stop even arguing about it.

Bro , Ortiz is 40 +. Wilder smashed him to pieces prior that he had snot all over his face and fell to his knees like a sack of potatoes. Yet Wilder vs Ortiz 2 is on and you are trying to justify it. Smh if Ortiz were to face ruiz or Miller, who'd be the favorite to win?? I want wilder vs Joshua but let's not act as if Joshua is out here tearing it up and facing top competition. Wilder and fury have already faced each other, why hasn't Joshua faced either one yet? Spoiler alert - Hearn is the answer to that question.

A month ago you all were supposed to be trying to fight ortiz and everyone defended it as a good fight, now wilders fighting him again hes back to being a 50 year old bum. Ortiz looked 50 years old in his last fight, and Wilder could've fought Joshua for way more money. The Ortiz rematch is still probably a decent fight, but it's not as important as a match for the undisputed status against Joshua.

hahaha...a nice dose of reality for the aj superfans....they'll make up some excuse tho these guys are the worst, lol they act like everything they are saying is not documented on the internet.

yup hearn offered him 12 million then skipper told hearn to stay at home so he could handle it himself....skipper offered him 40 mil each for two AJ fights.....but wouldn't disclose what AJ was making so wilder couldn't see what kind of split it was and what if wilder won? do you think wilder would/should be ok with taking 40 mil in a rematch, of a fight he hypothetically won, when he would likely be worth much more? that's how dumb these guys are Wilders highest pay day is 10m. 40m is a great offer What’s dumb is you all defending this duck, this is pathetic Wilder is a b level bum holding a belt hostage He’s a non ppv fighter who couldn’t even draw 1m on non ppv lol Wilder still has not made 15m for a fight which was originally offered Let alone 40m He’s turned down way bigger pay days to duck threats Whyte and Joshua ko the bum

A month ago you all were supposed to be trying to fight ortiz and everyone defended it as a good fight, now wilders fighting him again hes back to being a 50 year old bum. hahaha...a nice dose of reality for the aj superfans....they'll make up some excuse tho