Gary Russell Jr willing to walk away from Al Haymon & sign with Top Rank

Ray you’re legit pathetic All I said from the start is that Gary should be thankful because there no one else I. Why would I care if Gary leaves if he thought that’s what’s best for his career. GRJ coming across as a bit of a ungrateful little f.ucker There is no one else in the sport except Haymon that would put up Russell’s reluctance to fight more one once a year against almost exclusively against lower level fighters while still willing To give him good to great paydays and exposure. Good luck if he can but what GRJ needs to do is fight Santa Cruz or anyone with a pulse at 126 instead of bumping his gums about getting better paydays he won’t get from anyone else These are your quote, you called him a little fucker, am ungrateful fellow, his reluctance to fight more than once a year. Those are your words. How pathetic of you to accuse me of being pathetic for calling you out on it! You took the side of Haymon right away. Questioned if anyone would pay GRJ etc you even asked him to fight Santa Cruz, even though that’s one of the reasons GRJ is giving here as why he wants to leave Haymon if he isn’t getting more fights. You put the entire blame on him for not being active, even when PBC history has already shown that a lot of their boxers aren’t that active. I would leave you to your pathetic mentality of being a loyalist to PBC/Haymon. I remember when Whyte was talking to Haymon/PBC, Arum/ESPN... The energy was different.

You prove nothing wrong, you came in here to back the promoter over the fighter, you put all the blame on the fighter and act like a typical loyalist. It’s a proven fact that PBC fighters are NOT activity enough and you have examples provided for you. Those examples was to make you not sh itting on the fighter alone. But like I said before it all “Hail Al Haymon” or nothing else with your type, another poster came in and acknowledge the fact that PBC activities is an issue but GRJ has issues as well. You went the full 100% of GRJ because he talked about leaving like a true trooper for PBC... Maybe he doesn’t want to leave, maybe he was just threatening to do that so he can get more fights. But you were full mode s hitting on him because it’s PBC.... Great boxing fan. Ray you’re legit pathetic All I said from the start is that Gary should be thankful because there no one else I. The sport that would give him 7 figure paydays fighting once a year against no hopers and somehow this makes me a bad boxing fan Why would I care if Gary leaves if he thought that’s what’s best for his career. Like I said I’m a fan so if he leaves and fights 3x a year I’m down as long as he steps up the comp level I was a fan of Vanes before during and after he left Haymon You just act like a broad from the start saying it’s PBC that’s only giving Gary 1 fight a year even though another poster proved what I had said that it’s his own choice. Then you cry and say All the Asides are as inactive as Gary I show a you list that roughly 10% are , kind of disproving your sh.it opinion Everything you wrote in this thread is wack but as I’ve cone to expect that seems to be the norm for almost whatever you write

did beyonce wilder really make more though he went through all that made all that noise yet his next fight wasn't even on ppv I never saw cbs/showtime offer wilder a huge contract. I bet lots of fighters are willing to leave al gaymon they just won't saying anything publicly right now because they don't want to get frozen out. I bet gaymon has something in the contract saying you can't say anything negative against him. Some would leave him if they are not getting the right amount of fights or the fights that they want, that's the business of boxing. We have an example here where the boxer was already been shitted on here, why? Because he dare to speak out amount wanting to get more fights and the promoter involved is called Haymon/PBC. is it his fault that he hasn't been active previously? Who knows but the mere fact that he wants more fights is a good thing.

wilder basically used espn and then DAZN to drive up and force Haymon to pay him more. That could be what happens here too. I mean he says he wants the big fights but a Leo Santa Cruz fight coulda happened 3-4 years ago and still hasn’t. Or Mares. Or Frampton when he was pbc or Selby etc. did beyonce wilder really make more though he went through all that made all that noise yet his next fight wasn't even on ppv I never saw cbs/showtime offer wilder a huge contract. I bet lots of fighters are willing to leave al gaymon they just won't saying anything publicly right now because they don't want to get frozen out. I bet gaymon has something in the contract saying you can't say anything negative against him.

wilder made like 17 million for Breazeale. Haymon has to pay almost 10 million out of his own pocket to keep from DAZN and pay they purse. He lost a lot of money on that fight. And you're talking **** about made up numbers? lol gtfoh. No source, no accreditation, no nothing from anywhere; you write as if you personally saw Wilder get one big cheque and head to the bank. Fool

he didn’t likely make m+ plus lol. Again you are making up and indenting numbers. He may have made a hundred grand off the gate. Stop just making numbers up. Lomachenko just makes 3.2 million for Crolla. I’m sure if they want to they can pay Russell over 2 mil a fight. Pbc has 3 good fights for GRJ. LSC Mares and Tank. LSC and Mares have been good fights for 4 years lol and Haymon hasn’t made them. GRJ is the one letting it be known he is ready to leave if he gets a good offer. What does that tell you? He’s obviously not happy. This is his way of pushing back at Haymon saying make the LSC fight or Im gone. Dan Rafael put out the number that Russell Jr's pay package was for $1.4m plus a piece of the gate (plus whatever other revenues that Russell Jr gets a piece of, as the share of the gate would indicate). If you want to argue that Rafael is a **** reference, come out and say it. Gary Russell Jr is the WBC 126lb champion; he beats Leo Santa Cruz and he's the WBC/WBA 126lb champion (rematch likely happens, but let's say it goes the same way). Russell Jr would then be the man at 126lbs with neither of the other champions positioned to draw anywhere near the money. Being free to decide things as you wish is great, expecting anyone to give up their freedom, whether they've always had it or just got it, for anything short of a ridiculous offer makes you look silly

That’s your response after having everything you wrote be proven wrong. Geez . You prove nothing wrong, you came in here to back the promoter over the fighter, you put all the blame on the fighter and act like a typical loyalist. It’s a proven fact that PBC fighters are NOT activity enough and you have examples provided for you. Those examples was to make you not sh itting on the fighter alone. But like I said before it all “Hail Al Haymon” or nothing else with your type, another poster came in and acknowledge the fact that PBC activities is an issue but GRJ has issues as well. You went the full 100% of GRJ because he talked about leaving like a true trooper for PBC... Maybe he doesn’t want to leave, maybe he was just threatening to do that so he can get more fights. But you were full mode s hitting on him because it’s PBC.... Great boxing fan.

He should do whatever is best for him and his career but I don't think the interest will be all that high for him nor do I think others will be willing to pay him as much as he makes right now fighting once a year If the plan is to Move Up, Tank is the biggest fight to make at 130, also could still get Leo at 130. Money not the issue, he want the big Fights!

Whatever the reason was, he hasn't been able to get those fights. And he is making it crystal clear it is not on him, but on Haymon and his Leo's team. So now there is no excuse not to get the fight made. I'm sure GRJ in the past may have been a reason some of those fights were not being made, but he wants the LSC now...and he wants it badly. Even Keith Idec mentioned a few weeks ago that the hold up is LSC, NOT GRJ. That is a guy plugged in the PBC and would know what is going on. I’m with you , LSC / GRJ is a cant Miss fight hope it happens next For both guys

That’s what I thought. Some of you guys are the worse “Boxing fans” on this forum. When hit in the fact with numbers and fact you start calling people names lol. The fact that you automatically supported the promoter over the fighter based on rumours not facts, show are narrow minded you are. You guys are for the promoters, because one fighter complained about his activity level you calling him names. I haven’t seen any other fans on this forums doing that... Just the Haymon loyalist like yourself.... And when called on it, this is you guys exact response. Am glad I expose your dumb arguement and hurt your feelings.... Next time stop calling out the boxers, GRJ should be on his knees because he is fighting once a year... Spence should too, Breazeale should too... the pattern is there, loyalist like yourself wouldn’t see it. That’s your response after having everything you wrote be proven wrong. Geez I’m a fan of Gary said it on here multiple times, never had a problem if he only wants to fight once a year / It’s ultimately up to the fighter how many times a year they want to be punched in the face Just think he needs to step it up and he’s got it good and he’s on the only platform that would still give him prime TV time and pay him very well fighting as infrequently as he does against the level he does You think Arum / GB / Matchroom would still be down with GRJ , I don’t but I bet you think he wants all the names and be in the ring just his team is holding hm back I like how your whole post got taken apart and sh.itted on for what it was and how you still think you came out in top I’m a bad boxing fan because I called you stupid ( sensitive much ) and saying GRJ should be thankful for the position he’s in because I doubt any other platform would let him manage his career this way . Gary said it himself he’s a free agent let’s see if he leaves and if he does how often he fights and who he fights l. Maybe I’m wrong and he goes Somewhere starts fighting 3 Times a year with a couple meaningful fights in there. I just doubt it Because his teams had almost The names and Straps in his division and Gary was the only one of them who just fought no hopers once a year.

If he fights more than once a year id love it. But it seems like that is his own decision to do that....

I live with your post, because your points are valid from history of PBC, GRJ... Furthermore, here are some quotes from just last year: "You've got to find the good within a situation. I have had hand injuries in the past. The more time you take off it gives me the opportunity to preserve my body to the best of my ability and spend time with my family," said Russell, the married father of three daughters and a son. Gary Russell Sr., who trains his son and celebrates his birthday on Friday, would like to see his Gary Jr. fight more frequently. "I don't like it," Russell Sr. said of the inactivity. "I want him to fight more. Three times (per year) at least. My hands are tied. I give him advice. I advocated for more fights, it didn't happen. I really want him to fight more." Has Russell Sr. voiced his view to his son? "Absolutely," he said. "It gets to a point where you're beating a dead horse." http://www.espn.com/boxing/story/_/id/23537513/featherweight-world-titleholder-gary-russell-jr-make-happen GRJ and Thurman are different cats. They like their current schedule of only fighting once a year (KT used to before injuries). But at least KT usually will fight a big fight in his lone fight of the year. GRJ on the other hand has a bunch of dud fights that no one cares for.

There is no doubt Haymon had FAR too many fighters and not enough dates to keep his guys busy in the past. But that is no longer the case. However, GRJ himself on numerous occasions has said he likes to only fight once a year to preserve his body and have longevity in the sport. This is why I said he is a hypocrite at times. So no doubt guys like Spence/Charlo bros/etc were inactive against their will, but as for GRJ? I legitimately think it was his own doing. I mean he was even inactive in 2015 when the PBC were on damn near every network. This is just who he is. I live with your post, because your points are valid from history of PBC, GRJ...

They’ve been talking about setting up LSC / GRJ for years when LSC fought Frampton GRJ was on the telecast with Selby ( I’d assume as a prelude to setting up that fight with the winner having 2 straps and fighting LSC / Frampton down the line ) Yet that never happend / GRJ / LSC has been discussed for years even rumours of it being in the undercard of Wilder / Fury . Again nothing happend PBC had control of 3 straps at 126 and almost all the notable names ( Mares /LSC/Frampton/Selby / GRJ) You throw Warrington in the mix and everyone of them has been in fights against each the last couple years except Russel that can’t be a coincidence. How can Haymon get all the others to Top Guns to fight But can’t do it for GRJ , I mean Gary’s Black And American shouldn’t he be Haymins favorite in that division according to some Sh.it Valdez is stuck in a island on Espn and even he fought Quigg. The only time Gary doesn’t fight absolute no hopers is when it’s mandated by the sanctioning bodies. When it’s not mandated it’s a steady stream of C class fighters According to PBC Fighters Haymon will give 2-3 names that a fighter can fight and they choose who they want How can anyone look at the situation and not think Gary’s the one to blame for his sh.it Opponets and inactivity Whatever the reason was, he hasn't been able to get those fights. And he is making it crystal clear it is not on him, but on Haymon and his Leo's team. So now there is no excuse not to get the fight made. I'm sure GRJ in the past may have been a reason some of those fights were not being made, but he wants the LSC now...and he wants it badly. Even Keith Idec mentioned a few weeks ago that the hold up is LSC, NOT GRJ. That is a guy plugged in the PBC and would know what is going on.

I too have heard variations on this, based on Gary being somewhat injury prone. When I brought it up with someone loosely acquainted with him they reacted with genuine surprise. This has been followed by the man himself speaking out. Make of it what you will. Yeah I heard it’s his hands are injury prone and he doesn’t have a desire to fight more then once a year But I could be wrong / I just doubt Gary been kicking down the door demanding to be more active and fight better names and he’s just been getting the cold shoulder for 4+ years

The evidence does NOT support your theory or the rumours. The evidence supports the boxers NOT PBC, There are plenty of fighters who have the same activity levels as GRJ in PBC. So it cannot be the boxers, it has to be the promotional outfit, how do you explain Breazeale having only three fights since he lost to Joshua in mid-2016 and Whyte having nine fights in within the same time frame Or Andy Ruiz having seven fights in that same time frame? How do we explain Broner, Spence, Danny Garcia, Charlo etc having an average of 1 or 2 fights per year between them over the last 3 years? There is an activity issue with PBC, and this has been glaring for a while now, some boxers actually want to get in the ring, fight, get paid and showcase their talent...Oppose to sitting on the shelf and getting paid minimum cheque and then singing "All praise Haymon" on social media. So am praising GRJ for wanting to fight more often, he would obviously be destroyed for speaking out as evident by your original post about him. But for a talented boxer like him, he has turned into a right ol joke with his non-activity and TBA/TBC opponents....Maybe that's why he is speaking out and good for him. There is no doubt Haymon had FAR too many fighters and not enough dates to keep his guys busy in the past. But that is no longer the case. However, GRJ himself on numerous occasions has said he likes to only fight once a year to preserve his body and have longevity in the sport. This is why I said he is a hypocrite at times. So no doubt guys like Spence/Charlo bros/etc were inactive against their will, but as for GRJ? I legitimately think it was his own doing. I mean he was even inactive in 2015 when the PBC were on damn near every network. This is just who he is.

End of the day, he wants that big fight with LSC period. It should and needs to happen. If he doesn't get it, then he has options elsewhere. GRJ is hypocrite in some of the things he says, but he has a valid case here of being upset with his team if they can't get him a in house unification bout vs LSC. Like there are no excuses for that not to happen. LIS on Saturday, his next fight better be against LSC/Davis/Farmer...This was when there were rumors he may leave to DAZN. If he goes to ESPN, then Valdez/Warrington/Berchelt. I'll be okay if he fights Mares/Frampton, but he should be aiming higher than that. They’ve been talking about setting up LSC / GRJ for years when LSC fought Frampton GRJ was on the telecast with Selby ( I’d assume as a prelude to setting up that fight with the winner having 2 straps and fighting LSC / Frampton down the line ) Yet that never happend / GRJ / LSC has been discussed for years even rumours of it being in the undercard of Wilder / Fury . Again nothing happend PBC had control of 3 straps at 126 and almost all the notable names ( Mares /LSC/Frampton/Selby / GRJ) You throw Warrington in the mix and everyone of them has been in fights against each the last couple years except Russel that can’t be a coincidence. How can Haymon get all the others to Top Guns to fight But can’t do it for GRJ , I mean Gary’s Black And American shouldn’t he be Haymins favorite in that division according to some Sh.it Valdez is stuck in a island on Espn and even he fought Quigg. The only time Gary doesn’t fight absolute no hopers is when it’s mandated by the sanctioning bodies. When it’s not mandated it’s a steady stream of C class fighters According to PBC Fighters Haymon will give 2-3 names that a fighter can fight and they choose who they want How can anyone look at the situation and not think Gary’s the one to blame for his sh.it Opponets and inactivity

Don’t Gary Russel fight tonight?— Shakur Stevenson (@ShakurStevenson) May 19, 2019

You sound stupid and just looking to argue for the sake of arguing without any facts and basically no truth to everything. That’s what I thought. Some of you guys are the worse “Boxing fans” on this forum. When hit in the fact with numbers and fact you start calling people names lol. The fact that you automatically supported the promoter over the fighter based on rumours not facts, show are narrow minded you are. You guys are for the promoters, because one fighter complained about his activity level you calling him names. I haven’t seen any other fans on this forums doing that... Just the Haymon loyalist like yourself.... And when called on it, this is you guys exact response. Am glad I expose your dumb arguement and hurt your feelings.... Next time stop calling out the boxers, GRJ should be on his knees because he is fighting once a year... Spence should too, Breazeale should too... the pattern is there, loyalist like yourself wouldn’t see it.

yes hes making more than he used to but hes still making far less than he would have if he didnt duck joshua so i dont really understand his plan. not sure what haymons plan is either since guys that fight on regular showtime dont normally make 10 million a fight so wilder is playing haymon and haymon is playing showtime whose numbers have been horrible lately. im sure they are happy with all thiswilder made like 17 million for Breazeale. Haymon has to pay almost 10 million out of his own pocket to keep from DAZN and pay they purse. He lost a lot of money on that fight.