Did you hear the sound of that punch?

I watched Lennox Lewis live vs Golota and I promise you, you think Wilder hits hard? Every punch Lewis threw echod into the entire Arena, I was about 70ft away and could hear the Thuds off everything Lewis landed. Sorry but when Lewis hit you, it was good night. He ripped half of Vitalis face off with punches in the last fight of his career. A prime iron faced Vitali. Lewis would also time his punches and set them up skilfully so that you wouldn't even see it coming, that makes for far more devastating power than untimed wild haymakers. Look what a 3 year coked up.obese lay off Tyson Fury did to Wilder, he made him miss 99.99% of the fight and when he managed to land his perfect punch Tyson got up and Wilder had no answer. Fury really got robbed that night, most objective people agree, no one came away from that fight saying Wilder is a good boxer. I think Wilder would have benefited greatly from some Kronk Gym training. Imagine Wilder with Emmanuels offensive teaching, he fits the Tommy Hearns mould perfectly and Emmanuel would have him hitting people right on the button with timed jab to the body over hand rights to the chin. Basically Wilder is brute brute force and power, he's a phenom in that he's such a devastating punched he's not needed to learn boxing or timing, until he met Fury. Lewis hits harder because of timing+the set up of his bone breaking punches. If Wilder had great timing and punch set up he'd probably be the hardest hitting heavyweight of all time. But he doesn't and doesn't seem willing to learn. No hate I enjoy his fights he's a beast but I walk away from his fights disappointed because I know if he's had a guy like Emmanuel or even Roach he'd be undisputed best. He'd put Tyson away as soon as he had him hurt if he has the proper training. Nice well thought out post!Well we will just have to agree to disagree on his power compared to Lewis.One punch for one punch I think Wilder hits harder then Lewis.Im not saying he is the better fighter im just talking POWER in one shot.I could not agree more on the Kronk gym and Manny.Manny is MAYBE the best offensive trainer ever and what you want if your Wilder or his people is to be the closest you can get to a 220pd Hearns.If he had close to that kind of skills he would be unbeatable almost at heavy.He does have a good jab, but it can be improved and that's the key to landing the st8 right.The right hand(or left on a southpaw)is the hardest punch to land as it is the furthest away from your opponent and the key is to hide it behind that jab.Also having Tommy's left hook to body would be devastating.Manny would be his dream trainer, I know Breland is also that kind of fighter(poor mans version of Hearns) but he has not been able to get thru to him maybe its his personality he is too laid back I think to have gotton thru to him.I also disagree on Fury being robbed that word is thrown around to much.ESPN or THE RING had a story right after fight where they polled 14 KNOWN experts/writers and they had it 6-3-5 meaning more thought he DID NOT WIN then thought he WON.Now one of those guys was unknown and was listed from PBC so you can throw that out,same as asking Warren so it would be 6-2-5 STILL more had it even or for Wilder then Fury that's not a robbery at all.Dan Rafeal had it for Wilder and so did K Iole I think.There was too many rds where not much happened for anyone to cry robbery I had it 114-114 I had Fury up 6-2 after 8 but after that I just gave him the 10th(which was prob his best rd).Also although there not perfect the punchstats had Fury out landing him by 13 punches and I think Fury out landed him by 10 or so in 10th so that's 3 more punches over the other 11rds.I have NO PROBLEM with anyone thinking Fury won, but a robbery is a step too far imo.

I think most of his punch arsenal is actually quite average, he doesn't have a particularly heavy jab, I'm not sure I can even recall seeing a good uppercut from him and his left hook is maybe slightly above average for a heavyweight. That said that's completely overshadowed because his right cross hits like a tomahawk missile. I think that one punch might be up there as one of the most devastating shots in boxing history, in fact it may prove to be the single most devastating one in time. I don't want to get my hopes up too high that him and Joshua will fight any time soon after the *****show "negotiations" in 2018 but damn it, I really want it. Nice post, but I disagree on the jab and his hook.His jab is very good when he uses it the last two fights before this were against the two hardest guys to land a jab on a southpaw with 300 AM fights and a 6-9 switchhitter.He would not land that st8 right so good without it check out the way he came out in 2nd Stieverne fight it was smoking.His hook I think is below average its wide and he is better off not throwing it for most part.His uppercut is slightly better its the only improvement in his punch arsenal that ive seen.He really is a two trick pony, but that right is one of the biggest punches in history your right.People love to sh it on him but that st8 right when hidden behind a snappy jab REALLY is something to behold.

Yea great KO, but best part was how he set it up with the throw away left hooks to get Hasim to move his head into LL right.Boy the Brits will go nuts over this, but Wilder hits harder then Lewis, not rated as high(at least yet)but he hits harder one punch for one punch. I watched Lennox Lewis live vs Golota and I promise you, you think Wilder hits hard? Every punch Lewis threw echod into the entire Arena, I was about 70ft away and could hear the Thuds off everything Lewis landed. Sorry but when Lewis hit you, it was good night. He ripped half of Vitalis face off with punches in the last fight of his career. A prime iron faced Vitali. Lewis would also time his punches and set them up skilfully so that you wouldn't even see it coming, that makes for far more devastating power than untimed wild haymakers. Look what a 3 year coked up.obese lay off Tyson Fury did to Wilder, he made him miss 99.99% of the fight and when he managed to land his perfect punch Tyson got up and Wilder had no answer. Fury really got robbed that night, most objective people agree, no one came away from that fight saying Wilder is a good boxer. I think Wilder would have benefited greatly from some Kronk Gym training. Imagine Wilder with Emmanuels offensive teaching, he fits the Tommy Hearns mould perfectly and Emmanuel would have him hitting people right on the button with timed jab to the body over hand rights to the chin. Basically Wilder is brute brute force and power, he's a phenom in that he's such a devastating punched he's not needed to learn boxing or timing, until he met Fury. Lewis hits harder because of timing+the set up of his bone breaking punches. If Wilder had great timing and punch set up he'd probably be the hardest hitting heavyweight of all time. But he doesn't and doesn't seem willing to learn. No hate I enjoy his fights he's a beast but I walk away from his fights disappointed because I know if he's had a guy like Emmanuel or even Roach he'd be undisputed best. He'd put Tyson away as soon as he had him hurt if he has the proper training.

I think most of his punch arsenal is actually quite average, he doesn't have a particularly heavy jab, I'm not sure I can even recall seeing a good uppercut from him and his left hook is maybe slightly above average for a heavyweight. That said that's completely overshadowed because his right cross hits like a tomahawk missile. I think that one punch might be up there as one of the most devastating shots in boxing history, in fact it may prove to be the single most devastating one in time. I don't want to get my hopes up too high that him and Joshua will fight any time soon after the *****show "negotiations" in 2018 but damn it, I really want it.

All you hater's are missing out on a VERY fun heavyweight! Say what you want about his skill, but that boy can hit with ANYONE in history one punch for one punch.Loved the way he spun around BEFORE Breazeale even hit the ground when you hit a guy like that no need to even watch.Go back, close your eyes, and just listen.And anyone who is rooting against EITHER of these guys don't give 2 sh its about the sport because this fight(AJ V Wilder) is the best possible thing that can happen for our sport, the only thing better would be a trilogy between them. Could hear the pop with just one bar of volume from an ipad

Wilder/AJ> Foreman Fury> Ali Today's HW's are on a different level then the past HWs and that's a fact

I can’t remember the dudes name. A white Australian dude cracked Marquez with a loud hook once to. Marques got up from it tho. It was Katsidis. That left hook was like a gunshot I can’t believe JMM got up. Kind of shot that derails plan but JMM has an uncanny ability to persevere. And Adonis stopping Dawson. Dude knocked the career out that guy. Martinez used to land his shots so clean. Even against Dzinziruk I remember those being loud as well. Great snap. Honorable mention to an underrated shot of Cotto in the Mayorga fight and Mayorga’s reaction like “whyyyy!? Y u do dis?” Type s hit. Always made me laugh with that weird hand.

I whole heartedly agree brother. The Heavyweight division is exciting again since the days of Lennox Lewis, Evander Holyfield and Mike Tyson.

Well-put. I feel that the guy disrespects his craft by sporting bad technique and relying on power but I'm not bitter or stupid enough to deny myself enjoyment of what he does. THAT is heavyweight boxing. The reason we tolerate watching big guys lumber around is their bone-shaking POWER. His fights are fun as hell to watch. Too bad so many people have a stick so far up their ass they can't appreciate that. Well said Foxx! I couldn't have said it any better myself :beerchug:

I can’t remember the dudes name. A white Australian dude cracked Marquez with a loud hook once to. Marques got up from it tho. It was Katsidis.

If he KO's Wilder and Decisions or stops Fury, the haters will still complain about his style and ignore the dominating wins and the freakish once in a lifetime power. I'd take this over any Canelo fight any day.

I'm glad you made this thread, I was looking for a discussion topic on this bout. I can't find any others, so it definitely deserved its own. Well done you. Thx every once in a while I get lucky.

Well-put. I feel that the guy disrespects his craft by sporting bad technique and relying on power but I'm not bitter or stupid enough to deny myself enjoyment of what he does. THAT is heavyweight boxing. The reason we tolerate watching big guys lumber around is their bone-shaking POWER. His fights are fun as hell to watch. Too bad so many people have a stick so far up their ass they can't appreciate that. Hi skill is also underrated im not saying by ANY MEANS he is the next coming of Ali or Louis but his Jab and right behind it that right takes some skill.Watch how he turns that right in the 2nd Stiverne fight to were the knuckles are almost horizonal to slip thru Stiverne's gloves.He is basically a two trick pony, but their is some skill in those two tricks.His last two fights were against prob the two hardest guys to land jab against one a southpaw and the other a 6-9 switchhitter so it was not a big factor but still found away to land that right.AJ is a more complete fighter with a more diverse arsenal, but styles make fights and I always thought the way he fights on the line with little head movement is made for that one-two.The longer the fight goes favors AJ but only to a point because Wilder has shown better stamina.Wilder early,AJ mid,but prob back to Wilder if it goes past 7-8(but I don't see that).

Best sound since Lennox dusted off Hasim Rachman. Yea great KO, but best part was how he set it up with the throw away left hooks to get Hasim to move his head into LL right.Boy the Brits will go nuts over this, but Wilder hits harder then Lewis, not rated as high(at least yet)but he hits harder one punch for one punch.

All you hater's are missing out on a VERY fun heavyweight! Well-put. I feel that the guy disrespects his craft by sporting bad technique and relying on power but I'm not bitter or stupid enough to deny myself enjoyment of what he does. THAT is heavyweight boxing. The reason we tolerate watching big guys lumber around is their bone-shaking POWER. His fights are fun as hell to watch. Too bad so many people have a stick so far up their ass they can't appreciate that.

Wilder couldn’t lay out the gypsy king coming back after 3 year out and not in shape Fury proved wilder has overrated one punch KO power lmao keep hating fanboy

How about the left hook Donaire hit Darchinyan ?https://youtu.be/fnmJMT4ttJ4?t=1749 Yea great one, but I thought the one vs Montiel was even better.

The coolest sound i've ever heard a punch make was Sergio Martinez vs Paul Williams. It was like a loud cracking noise. Yea hearing them from ringside is even better, but that was MAYBE the loudest one ive ever heard on TV.Say what you want about his skills but the haters are missing one of the best punchers in history.Yea I said it, one punch for one punch Wilder is one of the biggest puncher's in history.

How about the left hook Donaire hit Darchinyan ?https://youtu.be/fnmJMT4ttJ4?t=1749

AJ vs. Wilder is the most exciting HW fight since Lennox vs. Vitali.