Wilder announcement tomorrow: 3 fight Showtime deal?

Can you imagine Wilder sending an offer through email with a 24 hour deadline telling someone to sign or no fight? With no details, venue and no meeting too? Oh wait a minute, that actually happened hahaha. You are a short bus guy, aren't you? that would explain it allNo it has been confirmed that the funds were there and available though. Joshua literally turned the offer down because he said he preferred to fight in the U.K. Instead. Had he agreed in principle or verbally; Then the contract would have been drafted within hours for him to sign but he refused to.

Another "rumor" that turned out to become complete bs. Unless you have a legit source then shut the **** up!

So, in your mind, turning down 100 million, oh excuse me 120 million, to fight for 3 million and selling tee shirts,... is a good thing???? Can you imagine AJ with a pop up shop at Wembley selling his T shirts there? HhahahahahahahahahhCan you imagine AJ turning down $50 mil after requesting it from Team Wilder? Which proves that he is a stomp down liar. "Show me $50 mil and I will fight you tomorrow" -Anthony Joshua.

Well obviously Eddie didn't make Sky & Sky will surely exist with or without Eddie. Who's arguing either of those points in the first place? I just think Eddie has a very favorable situation with his relationships with Sky & DAZN that gives him the ability to flipflop as future information dictates him to do or not do. If DAZN rockets to the front of the line he can exit outta of Sky. If DAZN flops he can ride the Sky wave he's been riding & Sky will be none to upset to keep Eddie I'd imagine. Why would Sky wanna force Eddie's hand? Who are they gonna have replace Eddie right now? Ricky Hatton Promotions? Does Hennessy got a TV deal these days? And its not like this is all one way action, although granted it does sound like it has been as of the last year with the DAZN deal coming into play, but its not always been that way. Eddie has given value to Sky in the past. Thats why he gots the position he does with Sky. I tend to doubt this is as volatile a situation that results in Sky being forced to put Eddie into a position to make an early decision. If Sky fires Eddie & this DAZN thing goes south & Eddie comes back into the UK with his A game talent again whoever gets his services is gonna be a more legit threat to Sky's continued success in sports. And lets be straight clearly Eddie has better brand value than anyone in the UK currently & maybe ever cuz who the f#ck has crossed the pond in the way Eddie has or even had UK fans as excited as they are currently about boxing? Idk that anyone has, but I'm not a UK guy so I'm probably not the best person to answer that, but I do know Eddie was the promoter who got me tuning into more UK fights as a US guy. Whats the upside for Sky in risking that relationship with Eddie to hurry up & hire Ricky Hatton Promotions or Hennessy or some much lesser promoter today or soon? I don't get it. I don't know who Sky Sports will turn to, but they'll go somewhere; remember that Eddie Hearn was originally the darts guy who looked to big up Audley Harrison before Sky Sports bet on him. With Sky Sports, generally speaking, goes Team GB, and there's no doubt in my mind that someone would step into the spot (had no idea who the Poxon Sports guy was, but apparently he's got a good reputation, can stage a quality show, and Haymon seems ready to bet on him being the UK operator for the ITV deal). As long as the talent is there, and the talent is drawn to fighting on Sky Sports, Eddie Hearn is less important than you'd think. 80% of the 2020 GB team, 80% of the 2024 GB team, and an operator who gets the basics right, Sky would be okay without Hearn.

I remember that press conference. Wilder didn't show (no idea why not) and of course the fight didn't happen. Briggs was past his best, but he wouldn't be first the heavyweight to pose a threat behind his salad days. I think it would have been a decent "old lion vs young lion" scalp and would have at least put his name on the map. Whether Haye would have taken the fight is up for debate, but Wilder should at least have been pushing for it imho; a big name and a healthy payday to boot. The physical advantages he has over Jennings makes it all the more baffling as to why he didn't pursue the fight. It's a winnable fight against a name opponent which is textbook prospect material. Only time I can think of when Jennings/Wilder would have happened was when wilder was already champ. Jennings lost the eliminator against Ortiz. Before wilder had the belt, Jennings was the A side. He was the one challenging Klit and was higher up the rankings. I can’t remember why Wilder/Chisora didn’t happen. I know frank jumped the gun for the presser but I don’t remember what happened. I’m sure someone will fill us in. Edit - the Jennings thing may have just been as simple as Wilder - showtime, Jennings - HBO now that I think about it.

Okay, but again I don't get how Sky can put pressure on Eddie or put Eddie in a position to "reveal" his ultimate intent like you're suggesting. I think Eddie is in a great position right now. He's got a situation with Sky in the UK so if his US ship gets sunk or DAZN cuts him lose he's got something to fall back on. And if his US situation starts doing better & DAZN starts killing it &/or entering the UK & threatening Sky's business he can ride that wave. I imagine if push came to shove right now he's riding & dying with DAZN, assuming that 8 year deal is legit & its not a 2 year deal & he can be bounced after 24mos. But if DAZN doesn't start catching fire in a few years & the US run is doing subpar & he still gots the Sky situation I imagine he'd just call it a nice attempt at the big time worldwide & go back to Sky if he can opt out of the 8 year deal or after 8 years has played out. I don't really know the UK scene, but I doubt that Sky Sports will let their airwaves be used as the emergency backup in case DAZN doesn't jump the way Eddie expects it to jump. Sky Sports is still the biggest platform for the sport, and top talent will want to fight on said platform, with or without Eddie Hearn. Sky could give Eddie the boot, and become an open shop for a bit; the 2020 and 2024 Olympic cycles happen, with the top UK talent no longer defaulting to Eddie Hearn without Sky Sports. Sky Sports was in boxing before Eddie Hearn and, as long as there are good British fighters to show Brits, will be in boxing long after Eddie Hearn.

Chagaev wouldn't have happened just because he didn't fight anyone of any risk or substance after getting KO'd by Povetkin in 2011. I like Haye and Chisora, would have enjoyed either of those fights. But if I'm either of their promoters, I'm not making that fight before Wilder has a belt. He's way too much risk if he's just some ranked guy. Briggs....ehhhhh was far out of his prime during Wilders come up. And Jennings would have been a stylistic nightmare as he's only 6'1 and Wilder is 6'7 Wilder/Chisora almost happened though. There was a press conference and everything. I remember that press conference. Wilder didn't show (no idea why not) and of course the fight didn't happen. Briggs was past his best, but he wouldn't be first the heavyweight to pose a threat behind his salad days. I think it would have been a decent "old lion vs young lion" scalp and would have at least put his name on the map. Whether Haye would have taken the fight is up for debate, but Wilder should at least have been pushing for it imho; a big name and a healthy payday to boot. The physical advantages he has over Jennings makes it all the more baffling as to why he didn't pursue the fight. It's a winnable fight against a name opponent which is textbook prospect material.

AJ is pulling in millions in endorsements...and Wilder is opening a pop up Tee shirt shop hahahahaaaha. Wow...50/50 though right?.... Even more funny that AJs clothing sponsor lays on a private jet for him. Still 'Make America grate again' hats might catch on.

Lool, point taken. Any thoughts on the rest of my list? Chagaev wouldn't have happened just because he didn't fight anyone of any risk or substance after getting KO'd by Povetkin in 2011. I like Haye and Chisora, would have enjoyed either of those fights. But if I'm either of their promoters, I'm not making that fight before Wilder has a belt. He's way too much risk if he's just some ranked guy. Briggs....ehhhhh was far out of his prime during Wilders come up. And Jennings would have been a stylistic nightmare as he's only 6'1 and Wilder is 6'7 Wilder/Chisora almost happened though. There was a press conference and everything.

Multi fight showtime contract worth over a hundred million??? Close. Hes selling t shirts now with his name on. Huge announcement wouldnt you say

So now the promoter’s words don’t count? Huh. I guess 95% of your posts are useless then since you stay trashing Eddie Hearn’s comments.First of all, Finkel is no promoter. He is one of Deontay Wilder's managers. Wilder hired him after he turned professional along with Mark Breland as his trainer.

yeah, it's what made the losses extra embarrassing, because Thompson was done when he fought Price...both times lol Lool, point taken. Any thoughts on the rest of my list?

Once again you moronic haters are quoting Shelly Finkel's words and not Deontay Wilder's. You heard Wilder's words concerning the fight. You heard it from his own lips. He wanted the fight badly and was looking forward to making it happen as soon as possible. However, Klitschko wasn't interested in it and subsequently, lost his titles to Tyson Fury in the very same calendar year that Wilder won his World WBC Heavyweight championship. Remember that Shelly Finkel works for Deontay Wilder and not Deontay Wilder works for Shelly Finkel. Also and lastly, it's Deontay Wilder's prerogative to do whatever the fuck he wants to do, whenever the fuck he feels like doing it. Just so long it's legitimate. What's wrong with having a little side hustle these days? Today's athletes do it all the time. They have everything; From side hustles, endorsements to sponsorships. So now the promoter’s words don’t count? Huh. I guess 95% of your posts are useless then since you stay trashing Eddie Hearn’s comments.

Fair enough mate yeah, it's what made the losses extra embarrassing, because Thompson was done when he fought Price...both times lol

“Look, (Wilder) is a baby winning the title. It was his first title fight, they'll be a time for unification, they'll be a time for all those things, he could go and Povetkin (the No. 2 contender) in Russia and make $10 million,” Finkel said to the Tuscaloosa News. “It's not the right thing yet. Give him a couple of fights, maybe bring something back to Alabama. Let him develop just like any other athlete. They don't take someone who is a great college prospect and throw him right in. And this kid is a great prospect.” Shelly Finkel 2015 Also, you never responded to your idol Wilder selling Tee shirts. Care to comment? Idiot Once again you moronic haters are quoting Shelly Finkel's words and not Deontay Wilder's. You heard Wilder's words concerning the fight. You heard it from his own lips. He wanted the fight badly and was looking forward to making it happen as soon as possible. However, Klitschko wasn't interested in it and subsequently, lost his titles to Tyson Fury in the very same calendar year that Wilder won his World WBC Heavyweight championship. Remember that Shelly Finkel works for Deontay Wilder and not Deontay Wilder works for Shelly Finkel. Also and lastly, it's Deontay Wilder's prerogative to do whatever the fuck he wants to do, whenever the fuck he feels like doing it. Just so long it's legitimate. What's wrong with having a little side hustle these days? Today's athletes do it all the time. They have everything; From side hustles, endorsements to sponsorships.

I'll buy some of Wilder's merch as long as he fights Joshua next.

What sorta deal in theory would that be doe? From my understanding if Sky offered some crazy deal to make Joshua vs Wilder right now, that Wilder would already be in on in your example, it changes very little. Sky would have UK rights & would PPV the fight most likely in the UK at UK friendly times. And DAZN, as long as they matched the best offer would retain Joshua US rights & show the fight on DAZN at 4am or w/e. I'd assume Wilder wouldn't care about all that as long as it wasn't some long term deal & it was for the best or equal money. So win or lose Wilder can go back to Showtime. I think Sky is just sorta f#cked with this Eddie playing both sides sh^t honestly. I mean to me the writing is on the wall. This has two outcomes. DAZN will eventually venture into the UK, as long as they don't go broke as some are speculating on but I don't see coming anytime soon, & thats the point that either Eddie is out of DAZN (if not before) or thats when Sky & Eddie part ways (if not before). Showtime/CBS and Sky Sports don't really compete, so that deal could be as easy as Showtime and Sky Sports jointly partnering with Wilder for however long, pulling Wilder out of PBC's deal on ITV

What do you mean "force Eddie to decide which paymaster he's serving"? But I f#cking wish. From all Team Wilder is saying they have no intention of talking to anyone about making the fight everyone wants to see. I'm rooting on it all being a ploy to get a better deal sooner, but if they are speaking 100% truth it doesn't sound like they are looking to make the fight after Breazeale or even this year. Eddie Hearn is trying to keep his monster exclusive deal in the UK, while also getting this billion dollar deal from DAZN, and if DAZN's approach in the US is prologue, the UK-based company will eventually set up shop in their home country and come after Sky Sports. That's what I see anyway. So Sky Sports should test to see where first priority lies, imo; work out a deal that makes sense to them, let Eddie know, and see what he does. If Eddie blocks a deal that Sky closed to try and push DAZN into the picture, Sky Sports will know what's what and plan accordingly.

he's going to sign a 3 fight dont make me fight joshua deal. anyone but joshua will be his new slogan. well anyone but joshua, fury, and whyte but thats not as catchy

I have a very hard time believing they can get a $30M a fight deal equal to the DAZN deal ($120M for 4 fights including 2 Joshua fights) for Breazeale, Kownacki & Ortiz (as often get brought up as Wilder's next 3 opponents). Maybe if Fury is in there as a possible, but not definite, option that would boost it up to $30M per fight it seems less crazy while still a lil crazy lol. But if they can get ~$30M a fight fair f#cking play to them & respect. I suspect if it turns out this is true they'll keep the actual numbers & terms as vague as possible while saying its "similar to the DAZN deal" just for max PR value. Not saying it will be up to DAZN's deal or not, but I don't think you want the SM & boxing forum accountants waxing on exact figures all next week by giving them that much info. Personally, my guess is that he's announcing a major sponsorship deal (Nike, Reebok, partnership with the University of Alabama- Tuscaloosa). Still, let's go down the rabbit hole; Wilder signs a long-term deal with Showtime/CBS that puts Showtime on the hook for a ton of money. Wilder fights Breazeale and wins in style with no injury. What's to stop Showtime from calling Sky Sports to seal the deal and force Eddie to decide right there which paymaster he's serving?