how come al was able to make pac/thurman but bob couldnt do pac/bud?

here's what i dont get with posters like you guys... so now arum cares about manny????? is that why arum is looking out for manny's health by not making the crawford fight?? yet, yall said arum has been raping manny for years taking all his money!!! so which is which? When did I say that? Again, I'm taking HIS word on why the fight didn't happen. Why do you think the fight didn't happen?

here's what i dont get with posters like you guys... so now arum cares about manny????? is that why arum is looking out for manny's health by not making the crawford fight?? yet, yall said arum has been raping manny for years taking all his money!!! so which is which? not only taking mannys money....they also said arum set pac up a couple of times against bradley and horn! now he cares about mannys well being soooo much that hes going to let him go to his main competition and help their brand/build other fighters in crawfords division!?!?!?!? WTF!!!!!!!

I'm just taking his word on the fight. Pacquiao carried TR for years and is one of Arum's all time favorites that he has ever promoted. He didn't want his end to be like Ali's, but I think Pacquiao would have done fairly well vs Crawford. That's just simply a missed opportunity and hurt Crawford big time, considering Horn ended up "upsetting" Pacquiao. That should have been Crawford's fight right there. But good for Pacquiao, gets two solid names back to back. here's what i dont get with posters like you guys... so now arum cares about manny????? is that why arum is looking out for manny's health by not making the crawford fight?? yet, yall said arum has been raping manny for years taking all his money!!! so which is which?

Nailed it in the original post. He actually can beat Thurman. rather than have pac take a loss, even though the same people believe he set pac up multiple times, he decided hed let him go over and help him push the competition?

keith thurman has options if he loses. 1. shawn porter rematch 2. danny garcia rematch 3. pac rematch if pac loses to spence

Nailed it in the original post. He actually can beat Thurman.

the anti pbc crowd all like "yeah bob really cares about pac.....would rather see him over there helping out the competition instead"... LOL

yup!!! there it is...from known anti pbc fanbois!!! "thurman is the more beatable"....lol face it...bob didnt wanna risk the guarantees for both guys and losing money on the fight....the same way he wouldnt risk doing floyd/oscar fight for floyd "ill lose money" he straight up told floyd al is willing to get a big fight done knowing it can boost thurman...and if thurman loses he can still do something with pac

Because Pacquaio can beat Thurman That's a bingo. Thurman looked like **** in his comeback against a washed up journeyman. Manny saw that **** and was licking his chops. If Thurman a supposed elite welter still in his prime as a man(30) cant beat a 40 year old with over 60 pro fights what does that say about him.

It just seemed to me that certain people who were hating on Pacquiao before all of the sudden support him when he moved to PBC lol. As to your question: I think Pacquiao losing to Horn had something to do with it. Although of course some may believe Arum set that one up. there was nothing i said in my original post that would lead you to believe im "supporting" him

Because Pacquaio can beat Thurman

Bob already gave his reason. He didn't want Pacquiao to get his ass beat. Apparently he loves Pac enough to not to feed him to Crawford, but throwing Pac in there with Horn and rigging the decision is fair game.

That's a good question. Maybe Bob didn't believe it would to for Bud what beating Oscar did for Pacquiao, so he didn't even bother

I think youre wrong... I haven't knocked the guy really since the Floyd stuff(and I wasn't round here then)....ive never really had a beef with pac other than his dumb fans and the fact that bob held up the fight for years....but ive actually seen him fight live twice in the US and in macau against algieri....ive just hated the way his fans have lived in denial about certain things....but ive always enjoyed watching him fight.... what does this have to do with pac though? who was giving pac props or knocking him here? I didn't see anyone doing either It just seemed to me that certain people who were hating on Pacquiao before all of the sudden support him when he moved to PBC lol. As to your question: I think Pacquiao losing to Horn had something to do with it. Although of course some may believe Arum set that one up.

Freddie Roach was on record saying that he didn't want Pacquiao to fight Crawford because he said that he saw Crawford as a younger, stronger version of Floyd Mayweather. Arum later said that he didn't want to see Pacquiao get beat up badly. I don't believe that Arum was worried about Pacquiao getting hurt. Pacquiao got hurt in the Horn championship fight, there's no point in being a world champion if you refuse to fight the best. Arum would've lived to feed Pac to Crawford. Roach said he wanted Thurman after Thurman looked vulnerable coming off the layoff. Roach won't be in Pac's corner if Pac signs to fight Crawford or Spence. yeah but Thurman is still a young champion....for all we know by the time this fight happens Thurman could have knocked the rust off I think what motory city said is right bob didn't wanna pony up the money to make bud a star....cause he probably figured hed take a loss between pac and crawfords guarantees and we all saw how bob acted towards Floyd "cant do Oscar fight for you...ill lose money"=bobs exact quote to Floyd on the matter yet somehow he wants haymon to come up and make a big fight with his guy?

Freddie Roach was on record saying that he didn't want Pacquiao to fight Crawford because he said that he saw Crawford as a younger, stronger version of Floyd Mayweather. Arum later said that he didn't want to see Pacquiao get beat up badly. I don't believe that Arum was worried about Pacquiao getting hurt. Pacquiao got hurt in the Horn championship fight, there's no point in being a world champion if you refuse to fight the best. Arum would've lived to feed Pac to Crawford. Roach said he wanted Thurman after Thurman looked vulnerable coming off the layoff. Roach won't be in Pac's corner if Pac signs to fight Crawford or Spence.

Because Bob didn't think Crawford was worth investing the $20 mil Pac wanted to fight him. He wouldn't invest in his own fighter now he's looking to Haymon to invest in his fighter. If you don't believe your own fighter is worth the investment why do you think someone else is going to invest in him???? someone didn't believe that Floyd was worth making the Oscar fight.....but someone obviously did...someone believed that was all Floyd needed to take it to the next level let me give you one guess as to whom that someone was that didn't believe in him....

I'm just taking his word on the fight. Pacquiao carried TR for years and is one of Arum's all time favorites that he has ever promoted. He didn't want his end to be like Ali's, but I think Pacquiao would have done fairly well vs Crawford. That's just simply a missed opportunity and hurt Crawford big time, considering Horn ended up "upsetting" Pacquiao. That should have been Crawford's fight right there. But good for Pacquiao, gets two solid names back to back. oh def good for pac...props to him for taking the fight.....just odd that al seemed to have 0 problems with this ...same for pac....but bob couldn't set up Crawford up nice? odd....im not sure I believe anything bob would have to say on the matter.....his reluctance speaks volumes...he might say he loves manny but what he really loved was the clout he brought to TR.....

you think he was more worried about his aging, possibly leaving, former superstar? or his up and coming new prized pet? I'm just taking his word on the fight. Pacquiao carried TR for years and is one of Arum's all time favorites that he has ever promoted. He didn't want his end to be like Ali's, but I think Pacquiao would have done fairly well vs Crawford. That's just simply a missed opportunity and hurt Crawford big time, considering Horn ended up "upsetting" Pacquiao. That should have been Crawford's fight right there. But good for Pacquiao, gets two solid names back to back.

Obviously that is a fight that should have been made for Crawford. Looks like Arum's personal attachment to Pacquiao got in way of what was best for business. you think he was more worried about his aging, possibly leaving, former superstar? or his up and coming new prized pet?