If Canelo becomes the undisputed WBC, WBA, IBF, WBO champ, I doubt he entertains a match with a WW. But a match b4 Andrade at Cowboys stadium with Spence next would do well.
Thoughts?
Moronic idea. A bigger elite fighter will always beat an elite smaller fighter.
I say why not. Most great welters want to be the middleweight champ and the great ones always try. It is too early to say if Spence is a great fighter though. However, Canelo will ko him. Spence likes to use his size at welter and that is something he can't do with Canelo. Plus Canelo has quicker hands and hits harder. Even though Spence would make more money than he could ever imagine Haymon will whisper in his ear to turn down the opportunity and he will obey.
The interview on you tube was fake I suppose if I’m to believe you. I get it.I can’t find the other but you know what when he moves up without fighting bud you will do a war Mikey move and disappear for a week and comeback with a new Spence agenda .Maybe you will be complaining about AJ not willing to meet Spence at a catch weight of 169.Or maybe Santa Cruz won’t fight Spence at a catch weight of 155.You are a spencetard groupie and will defend him at all cost.
So now the so called interview of Spence admitting to struggling with weight has disappeared from youtube? But I'm the one that's acting like a tard?
Come on man.
Again with your tiresome argument of Spence outgrowing the division.
You still have yet to provide evidence that Spence is struggling to make weight.The interview on you tube was fake I suppose if I’m to believe you. I get it.I can’t find the other but you know what when he moves up without fighting bud you will do a war Mikey move and disappear for a week and comeback with a new Spence agenda .Maybe you will be complaining about AJ not willing to meet Spence at a catch weight of 169.Or maybe Santa Cruz won’t fight Spence at a catch weight of 155.You are a spencetard groupie and will defend him at all cost.
Again with your tiresome argument of boxing politics that we are all familiar with.This is a different situation in that he will out grow the division and he knows he’s going 154.He has no intention of fighting bud at 147.
Again with your tiresome argument of Spence outgrowing the division.
You still have yet to provide evidence that Spence is struggling to make weight.
Canelo vs. Spence is likely much easier to make. Arum isn't letting Crawford fight unless Haymon basically buys Crawford. Theres a # set in Bobs head of how much money Crawford is worth and If that number cant be met, Bob isn't budging.
Let's see what happens. I'm optimistic it happens next year. If it doesn't for some reason? Then fight Thurman if he beats Pacquiao and then move up.
In terms of pay? Of course the Canelo fight trumps all. But the Crawford fight is still the best fight to be made in boxing and needs to happen before Spence or Crawford move up.
Canelo vs. Spence is likely much easier to make. Arum isn't letting Crawford fight unless Haymon basically buys Crawford. Theres a # set in Bobs head of how much money Crawford is worth and If that number cant be met, Bob isn't budging.
I doubt we ever see Spence vs Crawford. Besides, even at Crawfords & Spences peak of their careers, neither will generate the pay Canelo can bring.
In terms of pay? Of course the Canelo fight trumps all. But the Crawford fight is still the best fight to be made in boxing and needs to happen before Spence or Crawford move up.
Surely, there are more suitable fights for Canelo against people in his own weight class. Sounds like someone wants to see a round about revenge match for Mikey's sake. Don't forget, it was Mikey who insisted on fighting Spence.
Oh yeah I forgot I did throw that in. Sorry I honestly forgot about that shade. I'm gonna redk myself for that LOL.
yeah Spence needs to box and move and see if he can win rounds 10-12 convincingly.
You can bet that Spence won’t be slowing down in the late rounds.
Nothing so far today. I would think you'd have more of an issue with an absurd thread then you would me picking Spence to beat Canelo.
I do agree with you one hundred per cent that this is an absurd thread.But if his intentions were that he pulls a Mikey and goes after a huge payday and loses with style it wouldn’t hurt his career and he could go back down.He would make more money in that one fight then fighting porter and Thurman and if he lost in a good tough fight his stock would rise even in defeat as long as he didn’t pull a mikey.
Boxing Next Mega Fight for sure it is already building momentum early...BUT Spence Jr need to unify 147 first which won't be easy. I don't think Shawn Porter will be easy for him at all!
Probably looking at 2021 realistically
Canelo vs Hurd is going to pick up moment also especially if Hurd beats J Rock and the winner of Charlo vs Harrison II! Seeing Oscar mention his name more and more also.
Canelo beats Hurd BUT stylistically that would be an INCREDIBLE fight that would leave fans extremely happy and boxing needs more of that and less of guys playing it SAFE in big match ups leaving Casual Fans Disappointed once again :nonono:
Bruh its pretty much already been established that Thurman/Pac is happening in July and Spence/Porter in August/September. Only waiting for the official announcement now.
How does Spence taking an L benefit anyone? Bruh what are you smoking?
The only thing that benefits everyone is for Spence to unify the pbc side and then fight Crawford just like he said was the plan.
There are two reasons why the Crawford vs Spence fight is not happening.
1) There are big inhouse fights/Unifications that still need to be made on the PBC side. Haymon won't throw Bob a bone until he has milked those unifcations (Porter/Spence/Pacman/Thurman).
2) The Crawford vs Spence fight is not big enough yet for a crossover event. Arum/ESPN won't let their golden goose fight on showtime/fox, and haymon/showtime/fox won't let Spence fight on ESPN.
Therefore the only way for the fight to happen is for the fight to be big enough (financially of course) that ESPN/Showtime are willing to share the spoils. That requires that Spence continue to build his brand by beating top class fighters and collecting the belts and for Crawford to keep playing the boogieman role and convincing the viewers that Spence is scared of him.
There was a time no one could mention Canelo without GGG's name being connected to him, and there was a time no one could mention Mayweather's name without Pacquiao popping up.
If Spence becomes more famous and popular by unifying belts and being in big fights, then Crawford is wise to keep calling him out and making Spence appear to be scared of him, in other words, connecting his name to that of Errol Spence.
Therefore the more Spence becomes popular and famous, the more Crawford becomes popular and famous.
That is the path to making this fight.
Bob knows it, Spence knows it, Crawford knows it, and Haymon knows it.
Ouuu someone with a brain ^^^^^
This been the OBVIOUS plan since Crawford moved to 147. Im sorry but people are stupid asf. No disrespect lol
It wasn’t meant as an insult and I wasn’t even sure if you were maybe joking when you said Canelo would win two rounds.Who knows who would win but I know one thing I would bet he wins more than two rounds.The thing about Canelo is he seems to fade in the late rounds .
Oh yeah I forgot I did throw that in. Sorry I honestly forgot about that shade. I'm gonna redk myself for that LOL.
yeah Spence needs to box and move and see if he can win rounds 10-12 convincingly.
C'mon dude, Spence isnt floyd. Not even close. & Canelo isnt 20 anymore. Personally I think Floyd beats Canelo at any age but Spence on the otherhand hasnt shown anything to mention greatness. At 29/30yo Floyd was moving up to his 5th weight class to fight a legend after just 3 fights at a weight class below.
1 thing canelo showed me is he is fully in his boxing prime.
Spence isn't Floyd. He is a true WW not a SFW that moved up as he aged. Canelo wasn't 20 when he fought Floyd.
Ok, fair point Spence hasn't shown that level of greatness.
I think the key is speed. Canelo has shown he can outbox those slower than him. can he outbox someone faster and more athletic?
The fights with Floyd and Lara suggest he can't, despite the scorecards in each fight.
But Canelo will be bigger and stronger and is much more experienced fighter at 28 than he was at 23.
Nothing so far today. I would think you'd have more of an issue with an absurd thread then you would me picking Spence to beat Canelo.
It wasn’t meant as an insult and I wasn’t even sure if you were maybe joking when you said Canelo would win two rounds.Who knows who would win but I know one thing I would bet he wins more than two rounds.The thing about Canelo is he seems to fade in the late rounds .
Bruh its pretty much already been established that Thurman/Pac is happening in July and Spence/Porter in August/September. Only waiting for the official announcement now.
How does Spence taking an L benefit anyone? Bruh what are you smoking?
The only thing that benefits everyone is for Spence to unify the pbc side and then fight Crawford just like he said was the plan.
There are two reasons why the Crawford vs Spence fight is not happening.
1) There are big inhouse fights/Unifications that still need to be made on the PBC side. Haymon won't throw Bob a bone until he has milked those unifcations (Porter/Spence/Pacman/Thurman).
2) The Crawford vs Spence fight is not big enough yet for a crossover event. Arum/ESPN won't let their golden goose fight on showtime/fox, and haymon/showtime/fox won't let Spence fight on ESPN.
Therefore the only way for the fight to happen is for the fight to be big enough (financially of course) that ESPN/Showtime are willing to share the spoils. That requires that Spence continue to build his brand by beating top class fighters and collecting the belts and for Crawford to keep playing the boogieman role and convincing the viewers that Spence is scared of him.
There was a time no one could mention Canelo without GGG's name being connected to him, and there was a time no one could mention Mayweather's name without Pacquiao popping up.
If Spence becomes more famous and popular by unifying belts and being in big fights, then Crawford is wise to keep calling him out and making Spence appear to be scared of him, in other words, connecting his name to that of Errol Spence.
Therefore the more Spence becomes popular and famous, the more Crawford becomes popular and famous.
That is the path to making this fight.
Bob knows it, Spence knows it, Crawford knows it, and Haymon knows it.
Again with your tiresome argument of boxing politics that we are all familiar with.This is a different situation in that he will out grow the division and he knows he’s going 154.He has no intention of fighting bud at 147.
Bruh there is LITERALLY no evidence of Spence outgrowing the weight class. He has not once complained about cutting weight nor has there been any talk from him or his camp about him struggling to make weight.
You probably read something some troll said on this site and regurgitated it without checking the facts.
If enough people tell a lie enough times people start to believe it, I get that, but you don't sound like one of them trolls if anything you sound like a reasonable guy so I don't get why you're selling this lie.
Ps. Porter fought at 165 in the amateurs, but Spence fought at 152 in the amateurs. Think about that.
I seen the interview when he was going to fight Brook and there was talk of brook not making weight he was stating what his walk around weight was and how tough it was for him to cut to 147.That you can find on you tube.The other interview I’m still looking for where he talked about cutting for weight and his weight in the amateurs and how long he’s been at 147.He was basically saying it was going to be sooner than later because of the discomfort of coming in at 147.