36 year old GGG is 50/50 with 28 year prime Canelo, prime GGG trashes prime Canelo

28 year old GGG hadnt even risen to world level, he was with the eurolevel IBO belt. He took years to rise to world title level after that. 28 year old GGG was a eurotitlist, and would have been manhandled by titlist level canelo, who had won several titles in more than one division by 28/29. Thisis a GGG apologist thread clearly cast iron so.

- -Nah, you just a sissy boy projecting yer anorexic regurgitations. Golovkin didn't want the 2nd fight and lucky Canelo did him a favor. You really should study up. Yeah he really did him a favor by failing his drug test and screwing up the rematch.

Is that like when Abel Sanchez said GG lost the rematch, but you GG fans still say he won? You know, Abel Sanchez, GG's trainer for his entire career? His own trainer said he lost, but you insist he won or draw. ODLH is a figure head and was a hell of a fighter - he really was. I don't rate his opinion much on anything whether he's pro-Canelo or anti-Floyd. ODLH is a shell of his former self. He has not handled retirement well at all. I'm not finished reading this thread yet but please go watch the Manny/Floyd match and listen to Senior tell Junior that hes losing. I guess Floyd lost that fight too eh? If your trainer says it it must be true. And also after finishing your other posts. Come on guy. You want to act objective and look at the fact but you're only looking at half the story. If you asked me who was gonna win the first fight between Canelo and GGG i would have to have said GGG by knock out because I damn well knew he would NEVER win on the cards. How many questionable cards did Canelo have before fighting GGG? Too many. And then what happened the first fight? Even you cant defend that 118-110 scorecard. You said its corruption not controversy but I disagree. Corruption is controversy but worse. That basically means Canelo cannot lose if he makes it to the cards. And you idea of being A side is 100% hypocritical. B side should make concessions to fight A side but if A side doesnt want to fight B side then they will make absurd concession demands so that B side wont fight. Ya know. Because Canelo was so good he needed to drain GGG because he didnt believe he was good enough to beat him in a fair fight. And then he needed to be literally saved by the score cards because A side always gets the benefit of the doubt. But hes better than GGG right? Come on

prime lil g was busy fighting guys like gabe rosado lol

GGG is 37! If he fights Canelo next may he will be 38!

Money May was 36 when he defeated Canelo too. OK great performance by Mayweather

Canelo is a great fighter, even with all the favoritism and Diva attitudes and the PED issues. When GGG was still close to his prime and challenged Canelo, Canelo didnt want anything to do with GGG. He ran and ran and even dropped his WBC belt. Canelo went on to face Liam Smith, Chavez Jr and Amir Khan instead. Canelo himself said in several interviews that he wants to be retired by the age of 35 since thats the time that most fighters are past their best and cannot perform at the highest level and he waited until GGG was over 35 until he was ready to face him. GGG at age 35 won the first Canelo fight clearly in most peoples eyes. The 2nd fight was much closer, i wouldnt argue against a Draw in that fight. GGG was 36 years old already. GGG was the most avoided fighter in his prime, Sergio Martinez, Peter Quillin, Felix Sturm, Arthur Abraham, Canelo Alvarez, Miguel Cotto and many others, everybody avoided a young prime GGG and GGG still beat up all the top middleweights during his era who dared to step in the same ring. Macklin, Geale, Murray, Lemieux all of them were considered top middleweights when GGG faced them. How many other active fighters age 36+ can operate at the very elite level? Even Pacquiao got knocked out already and looked lackluster vs a B type Horn. Kovalev got knocked out by Eleider Alvarez. Only GGG is the one remaining at this advanced age and the guy had over 350 amateur fights all around the world, he has been boxing his entire life and has a very aggressive, offensive minded style that doesnt age well. TLDR: GGG in his prime was the ultimate middleweight. He had the whole division on lock and had everybody else look like an Anime fan on prom night. When a 36 year old GGG is 50/50 with a prime Canelo you know that Prime vs Prime GGG is way superior than Canelo. A 30 year old GGG destroys a 28 year old Canelo. How can you possibly argue against it? GGG is also still the most exciting middleweight of this era, all of his fights are extremely entertaining and exciting and thats what matters to us boxing fans. - -Big supporter of both, but Golovkin and the collective YOU been soiling yer shorts ever since the kid showed up.

Money May was 36 when he defeated Canelo too.

99 % that was yawn inspiring. What happens if I don't (the bold) :dunno: ?!?!? If you don't you will continue to be an annoying jerk.

I think GGG won both fights so naturally I think a more prime GGG beats him easier and probably knocks him out. His reflexes slowing are the only reason that Canelo was even competitive in my opinion.

The thing is a prime ggg was fighting the likes of Kasim Ouma and the durable but very limited Ouma gave him all he could handle for 10 rounds. The older ggg is a better version of himself than the younger one. If the young ggg that fought Ouma fought canelo, more than likely canelo would ko ggg.

Ages 27 to 32 are prime years for most fighters. After that it's usually downhill. So get off your lazy ass and look up who he fought then get back to us with your list so we can tell you your conclusions are wrong creating a never ending thread in which no one will agree or change their minds. . Till then stop your incessant whining. Márquez with 40 years old K.Od Pacquiao Stop crying

GGG elected not to fight Canelo or Cotto in 2014/2015 in the Middleweight division. Yes, Canelo and Cotto wanted Middleweight catchweights, but Gennadyovich demanded Andre Ward meet him at SMW catchweight of 164. You can't say "no catchweights" to smaller guys and demand catchweights for larger guys and expect zero backlash. And Canelo/Cotto didn't force Gennadyovich to stay in Germany fighting cab drivers until he was 28 years old. That was Gennady and his team's decision. I mean these GGGholics talked SO MUCH TRASH about how Canelo was going to get KTFO, BENT, STRETCHED, MURDERED, SLEPT...and then GGG did nothing. At best GGG won 7-5, but in reality the fight was a draw. Meanwhile Canelo fights GGG in September, has knee surgery, gets suspended, and doesn't need to fight Vanes in a tuneup...goes right to GGG and beats him in a close fight. Canelo beat Gennady though, not on the cards, but he literally beat that man. GGG looked horrible after the fight. Great post ..

GGG wasn't past prime until he fought top MW GGG fights Vanes finds his prime again rematch Canelo and he is past his prime Feel sorry for Rolls he is about to get ****ed up by a one fight prime GGG Nobody but you thinks Golovkin has been anywhere near his prime for last 5 years. Just because he obliterates lesser opposition doesn't suddenly make him 5 years younger.

Bro, nobody with a brain believes that Canelo beat GGG. I had GGG winning but I said after the bell “one wide Canelo, One close GGG, One even”. I even made a poster way ahead calling it “Fight Of The Millenium part 2”. I’d like to hear what someone’s honest pre fight analysis was before their opinion carries weight. If someone thought it’d be Hagler v Hearns I don’t trust you.

Great post, you're right about all of it, just a lot of biased haters who don't seem to like non-North American boxers so they'll celebrate him taking a "loss" even if he wins every round and pretend like age is not a factor in boxing. Boxing seems to attract the worst type of people, and it seems like you can't really depend on a lot of the worst type of people to view things, or speak about things, in any type of honorable way, or have any basic standards of decency or fairness. Very well said.

That's true but many Canelo Alvarez Fans, will Jump on it without thinking.

Will a GGG fan please tell me who was fighting prime GGG Ages 27 to 32 are prime years for most fighters. After that it's usually downhill. So get off your lazy ass and look up who he fought then get back to us with your list so we can tell you your conclusions are wrong creating a never ending thread in which no one will agree or change their minds. . Till then stop your incessant whining.

Funny how before the first Canelo fight his 12 fans here said GGG was in his prime since he started late and he would be the next Bhop. As soon as the fight is signed then GGG is old and Canelo waited him out. Hilarious. You bums have to stay consistent with your excuses for Borat. GGG took that L and no amount of rationalizing will change that. His fans are like domestic abuse victims, their so mentally scarred they may never recover. Cash Cow Canelo aka P4P numero uno Canelo owns all of GGG’s belts and his legacy. Deal with it.

It wasn't either fighter talking about KO's - they always do that...it's promotion. It was YOU - the fans. So let's be objective: https://www.boxingscene.com/forums/showthread.php?t=758584&highlight=canelo+prediction Poll: 188 votes - Canelo: 73 votes to win (56 decision, 17 KO/stoppage) - GGG: 115 votes to win (18 decision, 97 KO/stoppage) More people thought GGG would by KO than Canelo could win under any circumstances. So - YOU - the fans "exaggerated" that GGG would knock Canelo out. So I am not exaggerating. Own it boy Not all punches are equal. If a Lightweight and a Welterweight both punch a Middleweight one of their punches will be stronger. Just because Gennady threw more punches doesn't mean he was doing more damage. It literally just means the threw more punches. You look for things like panting (from body shots), wincing, KD's, bruising, swelling, or cuts to indicate effectiveness of punches. In the first fight - where you allege GGG won - Canelo showed virtually no signs of damage inflicted...despite Gennady landing more punches every round. To be fair GGG also showed no signs of damage in the first fight In the 2nd fight Canelo battered GGG despite landing less punches per round. GGG was also panting at several points in the fight from body shots. GGG - who was NEVER gone backward in his 38 career fight - was backing up against Canelo. Judges notice that. They notice that Canelo is backing GGG up (who doesn't back up on his own accord). They also notice how bruised and swollen his face was. Likewise judges notice GGG cut Canelo and Canelo cut GGG. Those are objective ways to evaluate and measure effective aggression. You're being too simple. Canelo was not some random MW fighter. He was and is the Face of Boxing...the A side if you will. A sides ALWAYS dictate fight terms. Always: Margarito met at 150 with a catchweight for Pacman WITH a rehyrdation clause Canelo met Floyd at 152 Cotto met Manny at 145 Pavlik met BHop at 170 Dawson came DOWN to 168 after calling out Ward Maidana let Floyd pick his gloves Floyd let Oscar pick his gloves and the ring size Canelo let GGG pick the judges in the rematch Sergio met Cotto at 159 at Cotto's demands Pacquiao agreed to USADA for Floyd This is not a Canelo or MW issue. This is A-side stuff. A-side always dictactes fight terms Canelo accountable for it you can, but it existed long before Canelo and will exist long after. What does that matter? Those are Golovkin's terms. When you enter in negotiations with another fighter you must find an agreement between both fighter's terms. Canelo was and is the A-side. Canelo makes the rules. Canelo has the most PPV buys of any active fighter other than Manny and just signed the most lucrative boxing contract ever (besides Floyd...Canelo's is worth more, but Floyd got a $250 million for like 6-8 fights) If GGG says he won't cut weight than he can't cry when guys fighting at LOWER weights won't fight him. Canelo and Cotto fought at 155. Canelo earned and WON the MW belt at 155. MW is 155-160. Canelo was the face of boxing. GGG passed up a HUGE legacy fight by balking on 155/157 in negotiations. And when he FINALLY got his shot at 160...he may've squeaked out a win or earned a draw. A DRAW. Embarassing. I asked for reigning Middleweight champions that cut weight to defend their titles. You gave me nothing. Canelo was not a reigning Middleweight champion when he fought Cotto. Canelo fought a naturally smaller guy that was past prime at 155 pounds and that is supposed to be a monumental achievemet. Come on even you can't believe that. Golovkin did not pick the judges. His camp objected to one judge. The replacement judge they suggested to be used by the NSAC was turned down and someone else was picked by the NSAC. Both sides agreed to the judges. What your saying isn't accurate. Most on the list of fighters you provided that gave into the A side weight demands lost by the way. The A side doesn't not pick everything concerning the fight. That's nonsense. Look at how many proposed fights fall apart because both sides can't agree. Two sides come together to make a fight and each side brings whatever leverage it can to the table. The second Golovkin Canelo fight was a good example. When Canelo failed his drug test Golovkin had a better bargaining position and held out for more money. He got what he wanted even though the failed drug test barely affected the drawing power of Canelo. There is some truth to this A side B side but some people are getting carried away.