imagine for a second this beast transitions to boxing. Same height as Deontay Wilder. 100 lbs heavier. Yet and still Faster. More agiel. More Co-ordinated and about 10X more explosive. He can dunk from the freethrow line. Deontay can't even dunk.
Also note the extreme high fighting success structure in the face.
https://theundefeated.com/wp-content/uploads/2019/02/GettyImages-1125441249-e1550491755602.jpg?w=700
0 chance of having a glass jaw.
those kind of FWHR have not been seen since a prime Cassius Clay
https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/8/89/Muhammad_Ali_NYWTS.jpg
this is a straw man argument and hardly worth the time it takes to read, let alone respond.
Zion William's will be popped like a bloon. 'He is a basketball player, not a boxer and he has shown zero combat ability'
People used to fight or get involved in boxing out of it being necessary. 'Boxing existed before the induction of professional sports, and it was a way out' it is the last true working class blue collar sport.
In future don't quote me.
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If boxing or combat sports where that easy, surely with all the transferable motor skills from basketball? Zion Williamson should really be able to crack the top-10 ranking heavyweights within 2 years of training 'But guess what? He won't because, as stated in my first post! Fighting and combat sports are entirely different from basketball, Soccer or NFL. Some people are great athletes i.e They can run fast, they have great motor skills when it comes to ball sports etc 'But that does not mean that they can fight'.
I have seen some of the fights basketball players have on court, and they have always been pathetic.
this is a straw man argument and hardly worth the time it takes to read, let alone respond.
imagine for a second this beast transitions to boxing. Same height as Deontay Wilder. 100 lbs heavier. Yet and still Faster. More agiel. More Co-ordinated and about 10X more explosive. He can dunk from the freethrow line. Deontay can't even dunk.
Also note the extreme high fighting success structure in the face.
https://theundefeated.com/wp-content/uploads/2019/02/GettyImages-1125441249-e1550491755602.jpg?w=700
0 chance of having a glass jaw.
those kind of FWHR have not been seen since a prime Cassius Clay
https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/8/89/Muhammad_Ali_NYWTS.jpg
- -Too many head shots for you, eh?
Fighters come in all manner of shapes, sizes, and natural attributes that ain't confined to soft lads idealism of athletes.
Do you need counseling?
Dude is the #1 pick and guaranteed millions
Why would he join boxing?
he wouldn't. that's the point. so many things steer these kids into basketball and football.
if you get a kid in teh gym when he's 12 it's just a sport. and the athletic ones will do much, much better. you really think zion williamson and chris arreola would have identical outcomes if both guys trained with emanuel steward when they were teenagers? get real!
If boxing or combat sports where that easy, surely with all the transferable motor skills from basketball? Zion Williamson should really be able to crack the top-10 ranking heavyweights within 2 years of training 'But guess what? He won't because, as stated in my first post! Fighting and combat sports are entirely different from basketball, Soccer or NFL. Some people are great athletes i.e They can run fast, they have great motor skills when it comes to ball sports etc 'But that does not mean that they can fight'.
I have seen some of the fights basketball players have on court, and they have always been pathetic.
Boxing is a lot more mental and physically grueling than other sports. Just because someone is a great athlete doesn't mean they would be a great boxer. To be a great fighter you have to have a certain mindstate and toughness.
You really think Lebron could handle boxing? Dude had to be carried off the court because he had a cramp.
many of these current HW aren't tough enough to stay away from teh buffet table. some are literally too unathletic to run! what makes you think they are so tough? tony thompson has some kind of primordial talent that you think zion williamson can't possibly have? get real brih! these guys are in an inredibly competitive athletic environment and they train as hard as they can. they show toughness and drive in a different way, but they certainly show a drive that you don't always see in today's HW. jarrel miller was 320 lbs in his last fight! if he ran up and down a hardwood floor for 20 games he'd be icing his knees for six months.
Fighting and athletic based sports are entirely different.
Both from a psychological perspective, and even physiological.
Boxing and even combat sports cater to all levels of stereotypical athleticism. And it is truly the last working class sport, because if you have the courage to throw a punch in self defenses? You may just have enough internal substance to become a boxer.
if you get a kid in teh gym when he's 12 it's just a sport. and the athletic ones will do much, much better. you really think zion williamson and chris arreola would have identical outcomes if both guys trained with emanuel steward when they were teenagers? get real!
Boxing is a lot more mental and physically grueling than other sports. Just because someone is a great athlete doesn't mean they would be a great boxer. To be a great fighter you have to have a certain mindstate and toughness.
You really think Lebron could handle boxing? Dude had to be carried off the court because he had a cramp.
Anyways iam out of this wack ass thread . Iam here to debate boxing not talk about could have should have would have . U need to post this in the fantasy forum
in what world are these narrow long faces?
https://c8.alamy.com/comp/E0MMXR/mar-03-1956-ballarin-versus-kid-gavilan-in-paris-tonight-the-french-E0MMXR.jpg
https://cbsnews1.cbsistatic.com/hub/i/r/2011/09/22/82cf691c-a644-11e2-a3f0-029118418759/resize/620x465/b13d13736fbdcf0ad01501ce208b6406/IMG_8464.jpg
i'm talking faces like this
https://images-na.ssl-images-amazon.com/images/I/61Wo915nuTL._SX425_.jpg
the only recent exception was this
https://1284474717.rsc.cdn77.org/wp-content/uploads/2018/UK/degale-train-farina-2018-2.jpg
he had a very short career. physical prime ended very fast. not durable. not physical.
Kid gavilan carmen basillo both have odd pointy ass jaws not squared wide jaws like you have pointed out to , not did gatti u are moving the goal posts sir .
Elite-level American athletes coming up today are going to gravitate towards basketball, baseball, football, and soccer as they are more mainstream. Boxing will always be there but is no longer the first option for most.
it's not even the 10th option.
3rd tier elite specimens would rather play basketball in China or Europe.
btw yes Basketall has the best combat athletes.
the most important physical attribute aside from being an explosive brotha is height and length. almost all long reigning champs at HW are all taller/lengthier than their contemporaries.
Elite-level American athletes coming up today are going to gravitate towards basketball, baseball, football, and soccer as they are more mainstream. Boxing will always be there but is no longer the first option for most.
Y'all posting in a black supremacy/cuck/troll thread.
I love it when black supremacists talk about their physical prowess but ignore the fact it's mostly American Blacks built the way they described because white slave masters bred them like work animals, only breeding the biggest and strongest.
So it's either you talk about your physical attributes and thank the white massah for them or you don't mention **** and keep crying about the 4-8% of Americans who owned slaves at the height of Slavery.
Talking of physical prowess, you ever looked at world's strongest man? Dominated by White Nordic and Icelandics because they were born out of something far stronger than man handled selective breeding, they lived in the world's harshest environments and let mother nature selectively breed them.
They were fking Vikings, sailing the uncharted seas with HAND WEAPONS to take on other people and kill them, rape and pillage. They were literally bred and designed to survive nature's harshest environments and be absolute killing machines.
**** your Africans. Vikings ***** where you at.
https://gifimage.net/wp-content/uploads/2017/11/elsa-jean-blacked-gif.gif
it's over for you.
Off the top of my head Carmen basilio, kid gavilan , Arturo gatti . Should I bring out the old google machine and get deeper ?? I already said a wider jaw is “ more likely “ to take a better shot , however that is not always the case .... check out good old wlad klitschko . Again should I start digging deeper and debunk it from this angle too ???
in what world are these narrow long faces?
https://c8.alamy.com/comp/E0MMXR/mar-03-1956-ballarin-versus-kid-gavilan-in-paris-tonight-the-french-E0MMXR.jpg
https://cbsnews1.cbsistatic.com/hub/i/r/2011/09/22/82cf691c-a644-11e2-a3f0-029118418759/resize/620x465/b13d13736fbdcf0ad01501ce208b6406/IMG_8464.jpg
i'm talking faces like this
https://images-na.ssl-images-amazon.com/images/I/61Wo915nuTL._SX425_.jpg
the only recent exception was this
https://1284474717.rsc.cdn77.org/wp-content/uploads/2018/UK/degale-train-farina-2018-2.jpg
he had a very short career. physical prime ended very fast. not durable. not physical.
Y'all posting in a black supremacy/cuck/troll thread.
I love it when black supremacists talk about their physical prowess but ignore the fact it's mostly American Blacks built the way they described because white slave masters bred them like work animals, only breeding the biggest and strongest.
So it's either you talk about your physical attributes and thank the white massah for them or you don't mention **** and keep crying about the 4-8% of Americans who owned slaves at the height of Slavery.
Talking of physical prowess, you ever looked at world's strongest man? Dominated by White Nordic and Icelandics because they were born out of something far stronger than man handled selective breeding, they lived in the world's harshest environments and let mother nature selectively breed them.
They were fking Vikings, sailing the uncharted seas with HAND WEAPONS to take on other people and kill them, rape and pillage. They were literally bred and designed to survive nature's harshest environments and be absolute killing machines.
**** your Africans. Vikings ***** where you at.
there are no iron jawed fighters with a long narrow face.
none.
start listing them.
Off the top of my head Carmen basilio, kid gavilan , Arturo gatti . Should I bring out the old google machine and get deeper ?? I already said a wider jaw is “ more likely “ to take a better shot , however that is not always the case .... check out good old wlad klitschko . Again should I start digging deeper and debunk it from this angle too ???
It's a combination of both. Yah because that's possible in ufc not boxing. Cormier can do that in the UFC but not in the boxing. UFC requires far less skill and athelticism than boxing. Jones can't train for 3 years in boxing and win a hw title. Look at the ufc brackets, blacks are not that dominant as you think. It's a mix of races.
at least you agree boxing requires far more athleticism. This is exactly why Deontay Wilder is successful. Which is why athleticism transfers like in the OP.
Wilder beat more skilled fighters all the time with his length and athleticism.
Gerald Washington is a perfect example of a big athletic guy who didn't even train boxing until he was an adult and yet contending for the title.