so... here's what i think happened:
- wilder saw news of fury's deal, and subsequent cancellation of their fight. wilder loses it. he goes ballistic on two fronts. first because fury gets a contract before him, and second because fury makes him look like a fool.
- Wilder then receives an offer from top rank. threatens to accept unless he gets a similar deal from fox/showtime.
- Al haymon/shelley finkel start working on something for him, alongside getting the breazelle fight ready. Wilder says he is "network free".
- right around this time, eddie sends and publicizes more offers to wilder and finkel, putting pressure and backing them further into the corner.
- finkel gets on a podcast claiming he's not speaking to eddie anymore because of a weird case of phone tag.
- Eddie sends an offer to wilder, finkel and haymon to meet directly with john skipper to discuss a new deal. finkel and haymon never show up to the meeting.
- lou dibella is probably tired of all this and somehow, convinces wilder hear what skipper has to say. he likes it, and then demands that haymon/finkel meet with skipper. hearn is "removed" from talks.
- around this time, pbc finalizes a deal for wilder and the breazelle fight, announce it on ppv. the whole world is stunned. now they have no choice but to go hear Dazn out, which they do. the face-saving continues.
- wilder says it's "not goodbye" to showtime, and heads to the dazn meeting. hearns not there, so no excuses. they leave with the offer, but know they won't take it. wilder is suckered into accepting a lesser deal with someone else. they probably told him that he could fight 5 fights and not lose the wbc belt and earn more than 100 mil because pbc will pick the opponents.. they probably told him that if he goes to dazn, they won't let him fight joshua to earn that 100mil. of course he believes them.
- within 24 hours, pbc announce a presser for next tuesday. this had to be done quickly before wilder got cold feet. word gets out that they turn down the deal. of course, AJ is blamed.
Pay attention son. Breazeale-Wilder was orders because Fury ducked the rematch smh. If Whyte has beaten Ortiz last November he would be facing wilder. Instead he’s trying to cherrypick his way to a belt. He beat an inactive Lucas Browne and really thought he was going to get a shot at the world championship lol
and that's a lie. breazelle has been the mandatory for two years. wilder himself said he was freezing out whyte till 2020. the whyte-ortiz fight would have been for second mandatory.
so we're just supposed to ignore that the WBC in all their wisdom ordered whyte vs breazelle, then cancelled it shortly after, just to protect wilder? and so we're supposed to believe that this same incompetent wbc would somehow honor their word with that whyte ortiz eliminator?
never mind the fact that that fight was for "second mandatory" which means trash. he's the silver belt holder.
Pay attention son. Breazeale-Wilder was orders because Fury ducked the rematch smh. If Whyte has beaten Ortiz last November he would be facing wilder. Instead he’s trying to cherrypick his way to a belt. He beat an inactive Lucas Browne and really thought he was going to get a shot at the world championship lol
They final eliminator was originally Ortiz Whyte before Whyte pulled out the fight. In fact he pulled out of the Pulev eliminator also and their still contemplating taking action agains Hearn and Whyte. And stop it, Whyte only received 1M dollars for fighting Parker. He didn’t receive “millions”
so we're just supposed to ignore that the WBC in all their wisdom ordered whyte vs breazelle, then cancelled it shortly after, just to protect wilder? and so we're supposed to believe that this same incompetent wbc would somehow honor their word with that whyte ortiz eliminator?
never mind the fact that that fight was for "second mandatory" which means trash. he's the silver belt holder.
so... here's what i think happened:
- wilder saw news of fury's deal, and subsequent cancellation of their fight. wilder loses it. he goes ballistic on two fronts. first because fury gets a contract before him, and second because fury makes him look like a fool.
- Wilder then receives an offer from top rank. threatens to accept unless he gets a similar deal from fox/showtime.
- Al haymon/shelley finkel start working on something for him, alongside getting the breazelle fight ready. Wilder says he is "network free".
- right around this time, eddie sends and publicizes more offers to wilder and finkel, putting pressure and backing them further into the corner.
- finkel gets on a podcast claiming he's not speaking to eddie anymore because of a weird case of phone tag.
- Eddie sends an offer to wilder, finkel and haymon to meet directly with john skipper to discuss a new deal. finkel and haymon never show up to the meeting.
- lou dibella is probably tired of all this and somehow, convinces wilder hear what skipper has to say. he likes it, and then demands that haymon/finkel meet with skipper. hearn is "removed" from talks.
- around this time, pbc finalizes a deal for wilder and the breazelle fight, announce it on ppv. the whole world is stunned. now they have no choice but to go hear Dazn out, which they do. the face-saving continues.
- wilder says it's "not goodbye" to showtime, and heads to the dazn meeting. hearns not there, so no excuses. they leave with the offer, but know they won't take it. wilder is suckered into accepting a lesser deal with someone else. they probably told him that he could fight 5 fights and not lose the wbc belt and earn more than 100 mil because pbc will pick the opponents.. they probably told him that if he goes to dazn, they won't let him fight joshua to earn that 100mil. of course he believes them.
- within 24 hours, pbc announce a presser for next tuesday. this had to be done quickly before wilder got cold feet. word gets out that they turn down the deal. of course, AJ is blamed.
Spot on i reckon. Wilder seems very gullible, Finkel, Haymon tell him things, forecast things and Wilder just seems to hear best case scenario and nothing else. According to him the Fury fight was going to net him $100 million and will sell a quarter of a million PPV's. Because thats what Finkel and Haymon told him could possibly maybe happen. They will be telling him he is a PPV superstar now and accepting that money limits them where they could sell more and earn more. And the same old you cant trust Hearn and Joshua dont want it you will get stiffed on DAZN.
At the end of the day Haymon and Finkel will only risk Wilder against the big names and the big risks if its under the control of a PBC event. No ESPN, No DAZN its their way or the highway and as we see on a regular basis their way is ready to cheat if needs must.
As for Anthony Joshua, Finkel, Haymon and possibly Wilder really just dont want that one at all, they are staying well clear of Joshua, they makes offers then refuse to send contracts, they cancel meetings, dont show for meetings, wont answer emails or phone calls, and claim Joshua's promoter is so toxic they cant go near him, worst excuse ever by the way, they have in general made themselves so hard to try deal with all in the pretense they do want the fight and its Hearn and AJ that dont. It isnt working. And now they turn down what is a brilliant deal for all involved where everybody gets what they want and Wilder, Finkel and Haymon have turned the offer down.
Because the WBC made two catastrphic mistakes. They made Breazeale the mandatory in the first place. And they annouce a final eliminatory with Breazeale and Whyte only recently. Fighting Ortiz for a second eliminatory and for buttons is a joke when he took for the Parker fight instead for millions.
They final eliminator was originally Ortiz Whyte before Whyte pulled out the fight. In fact he pulled out of the Pulev eliminator also and their still contemplating taking action agains Hearn and Whyte. And stop it, Whyte only received 1M dollars for fighting Parker. He didn’t receive “millions”
How would he sue when he’s the reason he’s not facing Wilder? WBC will just pull out receipts showing cheater Whyte cried and pulled out of an eliminator for a chance at Wilder because he was scared
Because the WBC made two catastrphic mistakes. They made Breazeale the mandatory in the first place. And they annouce a final eliminatory with Breazeale and Whyte only recently. Fighting Ortiz for a second eliminatory and for buttons is a joke when he took for the Parker fight instead for millions.
My prediction, Dillian Whyte threatens to bankrupt the WBC unless he is made the next mandatory after Breazeale. And if Breazeale doesn't bang out wilder, he will. Problem solved.
How would he sue when he’s the reason he’s not facing Wilder? WBC will just pull out receipts showing cheater Whyte cried and pulled out of an eliminator for a chance at Wilder because he was scared
Then Pulev should sue Dillian Whyte and Eddie Hearn. Cheater Ortiz should sue them also.
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Lol he thought he was getting a shot at wilder after beating Lucas Browne??? Man thise Brits are delusional
Nice fantasy. What happened is Wilder realised Finkle is blocking meets he went around his team to take a meet with DAZN, but ultimately pointless as Wilder has already signed a slave deal with Haymon, plus neither Wilder nor his Haymon want to fight Joshua this year. The end. Biggest fraud in heavyweight history in biggest duck in boxing history.
doesn't matter how much fury is getting. wilder didn't even have a fake offer to publicize, at least until monday/tuesday.
it's a sad narrative if your WBC belt holder can't even get a good long term guaranteed committment from a network, but some troubled retired fighter from another country get it before him.
He’s been offered more money than Fury. He’s offered 100M for 2 fights from DAZN. And 12.5 guaranteed from ESPN. Where have you been? Do some research before you do a thread in a man who has more money than your entire lineage
Hes just not a crackhead like Fury who will jump at the first thing someone offers him
Fury actually wasn’t offered anything they sought out that deal so it wouldn’t make it seem like he was ducking. ESPN would never offer a drug addicted PED cheating boring unknown fighter a contract of that size. Even Arum said it was bs.
My prediction, Dillian Whyte threatens to bankrupt the WBC unless he is made the next mandatory after Breazeale. And if Breazeale doesn't bang out wilder, he will. Problem solved.
this is actually what i wished Eddie would do from the jump. the moment you see wilder is playing games, play your own games. wilder can be forced on dazn or to london to fight if eddie would sign the next 2 or 3 mandatories for the belt.
eddie should never mention wilder or any deal with him again until he has a set purse bid he's participating in, because that's the only way eddie and wilder/finkel would ever be in the same room.
You wrote all this over Wilder money? Lol. That would sound good if the Fury contract was real. He’s not getting more than 7-8M a fight.
doesn't matter how much fury is getting. wilder didn't even have a fake offer to publicize, at least until monday/tuesday.
it's a sad narrative if your WBC belt holder can't even get a good long term guaranteed committment from a network, but some troubled retired fighter from another country get it before him.
My prediction, Dillian Whyte threatens to bankrupt the WBC unless he is made the next mandatory after Breazeale. And if Breazeale doesn't bang out wilder, he will. Problem solved.