Question to those who criticise Terrence Crawford for not joining PBC

No seriously, Wilder vs Fury were good numbers via a premium PPV price and how many fans claimed that Wilder and Fury couldn’t sell. What’s the highest premium price Crawford has sold for PPV and what were the numbers? Now imagine if Crawford fought somebody like Porter, Garcia, Spence, or Thurman, instead of a no-name like Postol. Still think Fury vs Wilder does better than Crawford vs any of those other guys on a priced PPV fight?

Or wilder signing with dazn for undisputed and a career high pay day

Considering it’s ESPN, a long known Sports brand, the Crawford Benavidez bout weren’t good numbers. ESPN+ has more than boxing "You always got some excuse."

Yeah yeah. Same thing can be said for Showtime, Fox, DAZN. All these platforms are growing consistently, no need to brag about it or shill for it Did those other networks and other fighters have the most viewed fight of 2018 vs one legged Benavidez no less.

Of course he is. Horn and one legged Benavidez is the real deal 147 standard! Espn were happy with both of those fights. The first pulled in a lot of subscribers for ESPN+ which has over a million subscribers now. The second fight was the most viewed fight of 2018.

If GGG signs with DAZN then I would pick Jacobs, Canelo, Andrade and GGG all to beat Charlo.

We cannot even get the PBC welters to fight each other these days. Crawford moving over there would just be more of the same right now. Trust me on this, if they had any clarity among the PBC welters, the one left standing would then want to fight Crawford in a mega fight regardless of who Bud is with. We have been waiting since 2015 for some clarity there. Thurman almost got there, then turned into a diva himself. Right now the PBC welters minus Spence are worthless to me. Bunch of posers. I used to like Porter, but even he is off the rails now.

Let him get past Amir Khan first.....I think Amir Khan will win the fight unless his jaw lets him down again.

They must be dumb, a fighter can do whatever they want. It might not benefit them in the longer run, we might not agree with it but they earn the right to do that. Same with Wilder signing with Top rank.

The difference is, is that no one is claiming Charlo is the best middleweight and putting him #1 P4P. Crawfish has the machine behind him. He will continue to be fed the top rank diet while people claim everyone else is ducking him. I’ve seen people claim charlo is the best mw. How can he prove it whilst fighting on a channel without the top talent at the weight.

Against whom? You can make the argument that Crawford and Spence are equals, in which case they should do a joint broadcast. Crawford-Khan won't do 200k PPV buys on ESPN; Spence-Mikey may end up getting 400k PPV buys on FOX. Context matters

Would you say charlo should jump ship and join DAZN to get the big fights. I mean Canelo, Jacobs, Andrade and possibly GGG will be over there there’s not much in the way of top level opposition over at pbc. If Crawford is criticised for not joining pbc for the big names should charlo be criticised also? Charlo has been his own path for a while now, knocking off whomever he can get in the ring with, and is currently mandatory challenger to the WBC crown. It's stalling him out, this wait, but there's a path to the opportunity that he is looking for. Terence Crawford is WBO champion, with no one to fight. And it's because all of the viable welterweights are with PBC (and the WBC/WBA/IBF all work together but not with the WBO, by the WBO's choice). After Charlo gets his WBC title shot (or is handed the vacant the), he still has a few fights before the well runs dry (SD-Culcay winner, Hurd if he cleans up 154lbs and moves up, Lara if he moves up, and a few lesser names. Who is there for Crawford to fight?

for the record..i dont criticize crawford for resigning....i just think that he had to have known...and sitting back and watching arum potentially block a fury/wilder rematch isnt going to help his chances.... his promoter wanted garcia for him...good name in a fight he should easily win...and he couldnt get it....i understand TR built him...and he makes good money over there fighting easer-ish type fights....but i think he beats prob most of the Pbc ww roster with ease save for maybe spence and thurman

i truly believe that if canelo wanted to fight charlo theyd have no problem getting the fight done from charlos side.... and what if the pbc lands golovkin? i mean...is charlo supposed to jump over to fight andrade? or maybe hope billy joe saunders grows a set too? i guarantee if canelo came calling theyd get the fight done

I haven't & wouldn't criticize Bud for not joining PBC, but I definitely think he shoulda played out his TR contract & tested his market value. I think he lost money not doing that cuz either TR has to pay more to retain his services or someone else does be it PBC or DAZN. And if PBC woulda made him the best offer than he'd obviously have much bigger fights. Bud is one of the best fighters in the game he has tremendous leverage but promoters have boxers shook. In general I think boxers are pretty stupid business-wise & too loyal to promoters doe. Even MMA guys are playing out their UFC contracts more now to test their market value & often finding more money in surprising places. From my understanding he still had a number of fights/years left on it but Top Rank offered an extension with improved terms on the current.

good post difference is crawford is seen as a top p4p fighter, the way to prove this is to fight the other great fighters around your division and he re-signed with top rank knowing that it would be more difficult to fight the likes of thurman and spence Crawford has also been an undisputed champion and cleaned out another division in addition to being the 2014 fighter of the year and was part of HBO's best viewed broadcasts and is now right near the top of the most watched boxing matches on TV. Charlo has done basically nothing.

Didn't have to go to PBC BUT given the money that is being thrown around right now...BIG MISTAKE not at least testing the Market as a Free Agent. You honestly think DAZN would not have been in the Terrance Crawford sweepstakes and throw BIG MONEY at him with them desperately needing a Marquee American fighter for DAZN US? Come On! This is a move he will regret later on IMO especially if he never gets the big fights vs the other 147 Fighters

The difference is, is that no one is claiming Charlo is the best middleweight and putting him #1 P4P. Crawfish has the machine behind him. He will continue to be fed the top rank diet while people claim everyone else is ducking him.His name is CRAWFORD not CRAWFISH. You are 63 years old. Try acting your age instead of acting like a nasty name calling 10 year old. What network he fights with has nothing to do with how good he is PFP. He earned that high ranking in the ring numerous times.

Would you say charlo should jump ship and join DAZN to get the big fights. I mean Canelo, Jacobs, Andrade and possibly GGG will be over there there’s not much in the way of top level opposition over at pbc. If Crawford is criticised for not joining pbc for the big names should charlo be criticised also?[/QUOTE Yea Charlo should go to DAZN as should any 160pder.Funny though PBC got most of the best 154pders though.

The difference is, is that no one is claiming Charlo is the best middleweight and putting him #1 P4P. Crawfish has the machine behind him. He will continue to be fed the top rank diet while people claim everyone else is ducking him. good post difference is crawford is seen as a top p4p fighter, the way to prove this is to fight the other great fighters around your division and he re-signed with top rank knowing that it would be more difficult to fight the likes of thurman and spence