Wilder purse vs Breazeale??, Will he Stay with Showtime???

In regards to Joshua, Wilder and his team wouldn't respond to Harn trying to make a fight. Therefore they have taken a fight with Miller because they can't put their career on hold waiting for Wilder. Now Wilder states he will fight in the interim. So Hearn and DAZN are offering him more money for that Interim fight (a career high payday), as long as he the 2 fights following that are with Joshua for even more money. So it is realistic for DAZN as a business to want 3 fights with Wilder as they would be paying him a boatload of money. Again, I'm talking from Wilder's side not DAZN. Of course it makes sense for DAZN and ESPN to lock him up to a 3-5 fight deal. But that's just not going to happen.

It absolutely doesn't. Neither of those networks offered him Fury or Joshua next. And Hearn has said plenty of times they may do the fight on SHO. So only guy stuck with a real network deal is Fury. It isn't realistic to expect Wilder to sign with DAZN or ESPN for 3-5 fights. Can he fight there on a one fight deal? Absolutely, but the 3-5 fights thing isn't happening. In regards to Joshua, Wilder and his team wouldn't respond to Harn trying to make a fight. Therefore they have taken a fight with Miller because they can't put their career on hold waiting for Wilder. Now Wilder states he will fight in the interim. So Hearn and DAZN are offering him more money for that Interim fight (a career high payday), as long as he the 2 fights following that are with Joshua for even more money. So it is realistic for DAZN as a business to want 3 fights with Wilder as they would be paying him a boatload of money.

It's abundantly clear Wilder has no say in what network he fights on. Haymon has that iron clad contract that stipulates he has to fight on one of the PBC networks. He f'd up saying that he is a free agent, now it makes him look like he is ducking fights with Joshua and Fury by not signing with ESPN or DAZN. It absolutely doesn't. Neither of those networks offered him Fury or Joshua next. And Hearn has said plenty of times they may do the fight on SHO. So only guy stuck with a real network deal is Fury. It isn't realistic to expect Wilder to sign with DAZN or ESPN for 3-5 fights. Can he fight there on a one fight deal? Absolutely, but the 3-5 fights thing isn't happening.

I dont care about how many millions a fighter is making

https://www.******.com/555634-deontay-wilder-set-to-return-may-18-on-showtime-possibly-vs-dominic-breazeale/ For his next fight he will at least fight on SHO and isn't signing a deal with DAZN or ESPN. If he gets past Breazeale, he can create a bidding war between ESPN and DAZN for his services next. Question that I asked last time, but will this fight against Breazeale be on regular SHO or SHO PPV? It's abundantly clear Wilder has no say in what network he fights on. Haymon has that iron clad contract that stipulates he has to fight on one of the PBC networks. He f'd up saying that he is a free agent, now it makes him look like he is ducking fights with Joshua and Fury by not signing with ESPN or DAZN.

The Breazeale vs wilder fight will be on PPV, its projected to break records as well. Most likely it does around 10 million viewers at least at a price of $86.11 cents. Wilder will become the A side and command over the world. Trolling aside, realistically they should be gunning for 200-250k here. Will be interesting to see if the deal is all on PPV, or SHO guarantees a certain amount here. Wilder will want to make at least 10M here if he's getting 15M offers.

Wilder received multi-fight offers from both Top Rank and Matchroom (to fight on DAZN), but he’s rebuffed those deals at the moment and his next fight is slated to be aired by Showtime, per sources. https://www.******.com/555634-deontay-wilder-set-to-return-may-18-on-showtime-possibly-vs-dominic-breazeale/ For his next fight he will at least fight on SHO and isn't signing a deal with DAZN or ESPN. If he gets past Breazeale, he can create a bidding war between ESPN and DAZN for his services next. Question that I asked last time, but will this fight against Breazeale be on regular SHO or SHO PPV?

He should go with DAZN but he never will. He will stay with the same team until he retires. He is not very smart. He is very rich but with better management he could be richer.

Its unclear to me if Haymon has some deal, handshake or contractual, with his fighters or Showtime that ultimately results in the biggest names being unable to do business with outside parties without some extra layer of approval doe. Haymon has the exclusive right to arrange and approve any fights involving his fighters. He doesn't sign his fighters to individual network deals, but instead signs his stable to network deals. It gives Haymon the flexibility to allow fighters to fight elsewhere in specific circumstances that make sense, but with Wilder, it doesn't make sense to have him fight elsewhere unless they're getting something in return. This isn't just to protect PBC, this is also to protect Wilder himelf. If he goes and takes a one off on DAZN or ESPN and loses, he has no recourse to rehab his career. If he loses in PBC, he knows he can easily get a rematch, be rebuilt, etc. If you look at how often Haymon A-sides fight Arum A-sides, it's pretty clear Wilder/Fury 2 is pretty much ****ed.

Sounds like a promotional offer to me. If not then DAZN for sure should be the one offering a deal to Wilder. You don't need a promoter to fight on a platform you just need a deal with the platform. I think the problem is Wilder's side (rightly imo) feel Hearn has done too much posturing already hence this being such a volitale situation. The use of the word "ducking" in any negotiation talk between fighters by a fan always informs me someone is biased or doesn't understand how negotiations work or tactics people use in negotiations. wilder doenst want to fight on joshuas card because then he wouldnt be able to pick and pay the judges. just like joshua didnt want to fight on wilders card. we saw how that paid off in the fury fight for wilder and against ortiz when the judges somehow had him up and gave him a nice little rest when he was nearly ko'd but didnt afford the same rest to ortiz when he was hurt. control is more important than money because control is money long term

wilder doesnt care about money! 50-50 or no joshua fight!

That $15M for Breazeale or one of the other 2 guys sounds f#cking great, but the problem is the Joshua fight would be next & I've not heard what Wilder would make for that fight. So if Hearn is overpaying Wilder to screw him on the Joshua fight it doesn't make any sense. And personnally with the bad faith (I feel) history with this Wilder/Hearn sh^t I kinda feel like a one fight deal for Joshua with rematch terms in place if needed is what Hearn should really be offering right now. Or if there is a longer term deal it should be done via DAZN not Hearn since that relationship has been volatile. And I have zero faith in Bob offering Wilder the money to make the Wilder vs Fury II fight. Bob is a known tightwad & I'm sure he's pissed the media keep saying he's paying Fury $100M or $20M per fight. There is no f#cking way he's paying Fury that much. 60-40. For the Joshua fight. Stop trying to build a strawman. Hearn isn’t even trying to sign him to any kind of promotional agreement. It’s just to host wilder on DAZN for the first fight, and then for wilder to sign 60-40 as he would in a regular fight with AJ, with a rematch clause. Asking to see the what the numbers are is just posturing. There are no strings attached. It’s a good offer, and wilder not accepting or discussing it just shows the foolishness of wilder and his team. Either that or wilder is ducking. You are just posturing cos you don’t want to admit that to yourself. If there were problems with the numbers, wilder and finkel would have broadcasted it by now. The only reason they aren’t considering the offer is because “Hearn is a liar doe. Don’t believe anything he says doe.”

Why are you fools so concerned with Wilder financials. Gossiping like a bunch of females. Whyte got paid 1M for Parker fight nobody getting paid like that from Hearn besides Joshua Its only Joshua we are talking about. If the money is so not important to Wilder he should stop hiding behind a 50-50 split and try doing some negotiations. We dont care about the money but the fighters clearly do and it seems to be an issue. Why cant Wilder just accept being the B side. It may sting his pride but it cant be everybody and on this occasion it cant be Wilder. Once thats out of the way this fight may happen. If Wilder isnt scared.

WTF is up with this obsession with Wilder's Purse, as if any of you will get a % of it or something IF Wilder or any PBC wasn't happy with what they "Really Make" then they would be making the Jump to DAZN since they're all technically Network Free Agents. None of them are being held hostage. I think a lot of this is Eddie Hearn trying to gauge just how much some of these guys are really making since he has failed miserably at signing any of them and he just can't understand WHY! So now he is running around claiming they're (PBC Fighters) "Brainwashed" :lol1:

So what was all that "IM A FREE AGENT" or "IM NOT TIED DOWN TO ONE NETWORK" and the "I CAN FIGHT WHERE I WANT WITH WHO I WANT" ending in "HAHAHA lOOK AT THEM BACKED INTO CORNERS". Its great to brag about all that then refuse to leave the network and put yourself in the exact same position they are but unlike Joshua and Fury getting huge Network deals out of it Wilders doing it for free? No wonder he wants 50-50. What huge network deal did Fury get? His networth is the same as Wilders

Why are you fools so concerned with Wilder financials. Gossiping like a bunch of females. Whyte got paid 1M for Parker fight nobody getting paid like that from Hearn besides Joshua

Wrong. PBC has no fighters under actual contracts. The "PBC" fighters have managerial contracts with Haymon Sports, which means that Haymon has the final say about everything. "PBC" is just a television show. PBC is basically Haymon.

Wilder is signed to Haymon's PBC franchise who is with Showtime/Fox. For Wilder to go to DAZN Haymon will have to Ok the deal. Which will be a bad look for Haymon with Showtime and Fox. Imo I don't believe that PBC fighter's are free agents. Haymon will have in their contracts that they have to fight on Showtime and or Fox. Finkle has no say at all, its all up to Haymon. Wrong. PBC has no fighters under actual contracts. The "PBC" fighters have managerial contracts with Haymon Sports, which means that Haymon has the final say about everything. "PBC" is just a television show.

The great thing about the offer that am reading Hearn putting forward to Wilder, is that there is NO options on him. He fights the interim fight for 15m and he gets the two Joshua fight like he wanted. I know the interim fight would have to be on DAZN but what about the two Joshua fights? Showtime? DAZN? It is a great offer and Hearn has his door open for negotiation. Hes going to desperately want it on DAZN but he just wants the chance to try make this fight happen. Deontay Wilder just sat there ignoring everything with his hand out demanding 50-50 isnt getting anything done.

it blows my mind that people dont stop to think about this YES...eddie will pay wilder big bucks for a so so fight...but he now has wilder locked up with options on him....now eddie has all of AJ/wilder to himself....hes willing to overpay wilder for his first fight knowing hes going to make it up later with aj/wilder owning the whole thing...of course hes willing to pay 8-10 mil for a wilder interim fight.....he cant lose unless wilder gets upset eddie wont offer that 15 mil though for a one off wilder/brezeale on DAZN without options on wilder wilder isnt gonna go for it and hes loyal to espinoza and haymon who have been loyal to him and invested in him this is like when golovkin wanted to fight chavez years ago....arum made two offers to chavez...one if he just took the fight with no extension and another offer that was higher if he agreed to a TR extension.... So what was all that "IM A FREE AGENT" or "IM NOT TIED DOWN TO ONE NETWORK" and the "I CAN FIGHT WHERE I WANT WITH WHO I WANT" ending in "HAHAHA lOOK AT THEM BACKED INTO CORNERS". Its great to brag about all that then refuse to leave the network and put yourself in the exact same position they are but unlike Joshua and Fury getting huge Network deals out of it Wilders doing it for free? No wonder he wants 50-50.