I think taking on Deontay Wilder in America is more dangerous than trying to win on points against Saul Alvarez. I honestly do. I believe they'd have robbed Tyson Fury with or without the knockdowns. And it's not because Wilder is a big name, or is popular, because he most certainly isn't either of those things. It's bigger than Wilder. It's about the politics of having an American Heavyweight champion. They aren't going to give it up, and of course he won't fight abroad. Someone is going to have to go over there and bludgeon Wilder and leave no doubt. Think back to the Don King days of the Heavyweight division. There are people high up who will not allow that title to leave America. It's that simple.
These forums may be an echo chamber for crude and delusional Wilder fans but the people aren't fooled:
Media opinions
ESPN - 114-112 Wilder
BoxingScene - 114-112 Fury
LA Times - 114-112 Wilder
MaxBoxing - 114-112 Fury
****** - 115-112 Fury
Forbes - 115-111 Fury
The Guardian - 115-111 Fury
*************** - 114-112 Fury
BadLeftHook - 114-112 Fury
SB Nation - 116-110 Fury
CBS Sports - 115-111 Fury
DailyMail - 114-113 Fury
EsNews - 114-112 Wilder
Boxing people's opinions
Andre Berto - Fury
Abner Mares - Fury
Lennox Lewis - Fury
Paulie Malignaggi - Fury
Kenny Porter - Fury
Floyd Mayweather Jr - Fury
Floyd Mayweather Sr - Wilder
Tony Bellew - Fury
Jarrett Hurd - Wilder
Nazim Richardson - Wilder
Abel Sanchez - Fury
Josesito Lopez - Fury
Andre Ward - Fury
Eddie Chambers - Fury
John Scully - Fury
Tom Loeffler - Fury
Dave Coldwell - Fury
Frank Bruno - Fury
Gabriel Rosado - Fury
Gerry Cooney - Fury
Eddie Mustafa Muhammad - Fury
Mikey Garcia - Fury
Kell Brook - Fury
Adam Smith - Fury
Johnny Nelson - Fury
Roy Jones Jr - Fury
Dillian Whyte - Fury
Andy Lee - Fury
Claressa Shields - Wilder
Oleksandr Usyk - Fury
Derrick James - Wilder
Bernard Hopkins - Wilder
Eddie Hearn - Fury
I think taking on Deontay Wilder in America is more dangerous than trying to win on points against Saul Alvarez. I honestly do. I believe they'd have robbed Tyson Fury with or without the knockdowns. And it's not because Wilder is a big name, or is popular, because he most certainly isn't either of those things. It's bigger than Wilder. It's about the politics of having an American Heavyweight champion. They aren't going to give it up, and of course he won't fight abroad. Someone is going to have to go over there and bludgeon Wilder and leave no doubt. Think back to the Don King days of the Heavyweight division. There are people high up who will not allow that title to leave America. It's that simple.That's ridiculous. The fight was scored a draw. Without Wilder's legit 4 points for the two knockdowns of course Fury would have won by a large margin even in the USA if he had not been knocked down twice.The ENGLISH judge called the fight a draw preventing a Fury win so there is half of the robbery right there. Maybe you should have that English judge beheaded and banished from the country.
I think taking on Deontay Wilder in America is more dangerous than trying to win on points against Saul Alvarez. I honestly do. I believe they'd have robbed Tyson Fury with or without the knockdowns. And it's not because Wilder is a big name, or is popular, because he most certainly isn't either of those things. It's bigger than Wilder. It's about the politics of having an American Heavyweight champion. They aren't going to give it up, and of course he won't fight abroad. Someone is going to have to go over there and bludgeon Wilder and leave no doubt. Think back to the Don King days of the Heavyweight division. There are people high up who will not allow that title to leave America. It's that simple.Why do you call us fat yanks when you are also a nation of fat people. Look at your ex fighters Hatton, and Hamed. Fuking fat pigs. I have never seen an English referee without a big belly and skinny arms.
Fights are scored by rounds. Those two knockdowns were thus quite significant.
It was a close fight and a reasonable argument can be made to give Wilder the decision. This was no robbery.
Did you think Wilder won?
He did knock him down twice but that fight couldnt of gone either way. Fury won we all know it. This Boxing not a who got knocked down the most contest.
Fights are scored by rounds. Those two knockdowns were thus quite significant.
It was a close fight and a reasonable argument can be made to give Wilder the decision. This was no robbery.
Wilder knocked him down twice.
You guys need to stop crying about robberies every time there is a close fight that could have gone either way, just because the guy you like didn't happen to get the nod.
He did knock him down twice but that fight couldnt of gone either way. Fury won we all know it. This Boxing not a who got knocked down the most contest.
You literally just robbed the guy. Why on earth would he go to america again? Maybe bum squad can come over here for a fight and get out of his comfort zone.
Wilder knocked him down twice.
You guys need to stop crying about robberies every time there is a close fight that could have gone either way, just because the guy you like didn't happen to get the nod.
Wilder has managed to fight 2 decent names in his 10 year 40 fight pro career. In one fight the referee had to cheat Ortiz by giving Wilder time to recover from being hurt, IN BOXING??? Even though Ortiz didnt receive any help when he was hurt. And in the other fight the judges had to rob Fury to save Wilder from suffering a loss.
Ofourse they will do everything it takes and this is why they have absolutely no interest in any offers or contracts from Matchroom, Joshua, DAZN, Warren, ESPN, Fury or Arum. They have to have control of the event, they will only take these fights if it under their control.
Fury deserves credit for fighting Wilder once. But obviously he has gotten scared now and ran away from a 50/50 purse split.
Joshua has always been scared and no amount of money, not even $50 million, seems to be enough for him to grow some balls and get in the ring with Wilder.
You can stitch a man up once, stack all the cards against him. But thereafter, if he's a smart man, he will be wise to the trick and won't fall for it a second time.
Fury deserves credit for fighting Wilder once. But obviously he has gotten scared now and ran away from a 50/50 purse split.
Joshua has always been scared and no amount of money, not even $50 million, seems to be enough for him to grow some balls and get in the ring with Wilder.
try not to let your insecurity show so much..."never let em see you sweat" is a decent M.O. to live by....but youre sweating
now its known that two UK fighters blatantly ducked wilder....at least one of them had the stones to step through the ropes once...he just found out that the power is REAL and can land at any time...even when it was looking bleek
The two best fighters in the division are British. The two biggest names in the division are British. If Deontay Wilder wants to fight, he will have to get in line and fight on their terms. That is the issue here. But fat Yanks have their own agenda, that is plain to see now.
try not to let your insecurity show so much..."never let em see you sweat" is a decent M.O. to live by....but youre sweating
now its known that two UK fighters blatantly ducked wilder....at least one of them had the stones to step through the ropes once...he just found out that the power is REAL and can land at any time...even when it was looking bleek
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