Ortiz hasn't won a relevant fight in 4 years so I don't know what you're on about. and that guy was coming off a loss. Those who think Ortiz will defeat Joyce will be sadly mistaken.
we may see it soon. it'd be a good fight.
You're another one that didn't watch the Wilder vs Fury undercard .
that's how you drew your conclusion? ortiz's last bout coupled with joyce's bewildering performances? or you forgot about ortiz completely?
Stiv. Doesnt respect the sport or take it seriously. This is the problem with many talented heavyweights. Coming in fat and out if shape is plain stupidity.
I don't give him much of a chance. Joyce is there to be hit, but Stiverne seems like he's too shot to really test him. The Stiverne of about 5-6 years ago would beat Joyce.
Based on what ? His win over Arreola or based on that he got his head pummeled in by Wilder for 12 rounds? Lol Stiverne was never a real world level fighter
Sometimes in boxing, guys never come back from a loss. They just aren't the same fighter anymore. Stiverne is definitely one of those guys.... he was never amazing, but looks a completely different fighter since his first loss to Wilder.
I expect Joyce to win pretty handily.
I don't give him much of a chance. Joyce is there to be hit, but Stiverne seems like he's too shot to really test him. The Stiverne of about 5-6 years ago would beat Joyce.
That's boxing. The old guys are fed to the young and the cycle continues. I wonder whether the old boxers really know they have no chance and it's just a payday or they actually believe their hype?
What are Stivern’s chances ?
It all depends on how much Stiverene has left in the tank. If it's the same Stiverne who got humiliated by Mr Beyonce Wilder then he will be knocked out of the ring.
If he's trained hard then he might have a slim puncher's chance. If he hasn't then he doesn't even have that. Anything other than a KO win for Joyce will be a surprise honestly.