WBO's relationship with Warren is awful for boxing. BJS fights journeyemn for belt...

Top Rank is obviously "cooperating" with WBO, but They have arguably the deepest talent pool in boxing, so at least They make good fight even if WBO allows them to control the narrative and all that. Frank Warren's roster is distant second to Hearn - so when WBO helps manuever his fighter to titles - Frank, to protect them, has to make some complete joke of title fights - like Flanagan fighting MZONKE FANA, ORLANDO CRUZ... Liam Smith fighting PREDRAG RADOSEVIC and JIMMY KELLY... Saunders fighting WOLVERING... WBO and Warren are freezing competition in weight classes like that. Top contenders can't get their shot - because Frank brings those dummies to fall over for his guys. That's what's wrong with boxing, straight up... and WBO has his business in it - because if They lose relationship with big promoters, They might lose on big fights as They start talking to different organisation. Teddy Atlas voice "We Need National Commision!" Boxing being a business that is often so suspect its hard to even call it sport most times You have to expect that the guys with power in the sport will all have pull with the sanctioning organizations because they have $ something im sure all the bodies cant get enough of. but the WBO doesnt even hide who butters their toast and always get first dibs and have no problem making a move in the open with no f.ucks given about public perception they stripped Andrade and Trout ( Haymon )!would have got a shot at the title, they just removed him from the rankings just because he was a Haymon fighter. Top Rank has no problem in getting The WBO to pull some strings and give their guy a shot at their strap with easiest opponet they could find And still try and save face of its neutrality and have a fight against a f.ucking nobody who stands no chance. Valdez got his from a Argentinian window washer for a vacant . I’m sure Valdez will move up soon and Stevenson will be right there to pick it up against a scrub and keep the tradition going.

Top Rank is obviously "cooperating" with WBO, but They have arguably the deepest talent pool in boxing, so at least They make good fight even if WBO allows them to control the narrative and all that. Frank Warren's roster is distant second to Hearn - so when WBO helps manuever his fighter to titles - Frank, to protect them, has to make some complete joke of title fights - like Flanagan fighting MZONKE FANA, ORLANDO CRUZ... Liam Smith fighting PREDRAG RADOSEVIC and JIMMY KELLY... Saunders fighting WOLVERING... WBO and Warren are freezing competition in weight classes like that. Top contenders can't get their shot - because Frank brings those dummies to fall over for his guys. That's what's wrong with boxing, straight up... and WBO has his business in it - because if They lose relationship with big promoters, They might lose on big fights as They start talking to different organisation. Teddy Atlas voice "We Need National Commision!"

Wbo is an arum belt also so if Jessie Hart is with arum , top rank will get them to change it

Ok so let's investigate this **** a little At Heavyweight- -WBC Champ- Wilder: Haymon/PBC fighter -WBO (and WBA,IBF) Champ- Joshua, but previously held by Parker who was affiliated with Bob Arum and Top Rank Light Heavyweight- -WBC Champ: Gvozdyk but only after he KO'd Stevenson who was a PBC fighter who held the belt hostage for a long time -All champions except Bivol are on ESPN and affiliated with Top Rank Super Middleweight- -WBC champ: Vacant but a PBC fighter gets a shot at the vacant title... previously another PBC fighter in Benavidez fought for the vacant WBC title but lost it after drug abuse. -WBO champ: it was Gilberto Ramirez, so another Top Rank fighter. Now a Frank Warren fighter in Saunders will fight for it Middleweight- -WBC: Canelo, but PBC fighter is the mandatory: Jermall Charlo -WBO Champ: Andrade, but previously held by a Frank Warren fighter in Saunders but lost it due to testing positive Super Welterweight- -WBC champ: Harrison who won it off Charlo, both PBC fighters -WBO champ: Munguia, but Frank Warren fighter Liam Smith fought for the vacant title before and recently also got a shot at it. Welterweight- -WBC Champ: Shawn Porter, a PBC fighter again, fought for the vacant title -WBO Champ: Terence Crawford...another Top Rank fighter Light Welterweight- -WBC Champ: Surprisingly a Top Rank fighter in Jose Ramirez -WBO Champ: Hooker but that's only because he ruined the Frank Warren party. Flanagan fought for the Vacant WBO title but lost to Hooker and he is a Warren fighter. Saucedo, Top Rank fighter, also got a shot recently Lightweight- -WBC Champ: Mikey Garcia another PBC fighter -WBO Champ: Lomachenko another Top Rank fighter Super Featherweight: -WBO champ: Ito who fights on ESPN after beating Top Rank fighter Christopher Diaz for a vacant title shot. Plan gone wrong Featherweight- -WBC Champ: Gary Russel Jr another PBC fighter -WBO champ: another Top Rank fighter in Valdez DAZN: -WBO champs 5 -WBA champs 9 -IBF champs 7 -WBC champs 4 ESPN/Top Rank: -WBO champs 7 -WBA champs 1 -IBF champs 3 -WBC champs 3 PBC: -WBO champs 0 -WBA champs 3 -IBF champs 4 -WBC champs 5 This **** is suspicious to say the least

Both moves the WBO pulled make the sport and their organization look like a joke with basically admitting we aren’t Neutral and our organization is basically trash/ WBO not even trying to hide this blatant f.uckery and that it was done yesterday is proof how little they think of even trying to appear like they aren’t Just a Warren / Arum and if someone’s fighter until we can replace them with a Arum / Warren Fighter needs a strap organization. I’m a fan of Saunders but to have a Andrade fight lined up and instead fight this no hoper is also f.aggot move on his part and the WBO basically setting up this fight and that strap should even be considered legit Fury getting the 4 spot with Whyte probably going the WBC route and Miller dropping once if / when he loses to AJ setting it up for a Instant Mando shot against Tom Shwartz is also also pathetically predictable move to set up the easiest path part possible I’ve already said it but with Warren and Arum now having Furys back I’m suprised the WBO didnt strip AJ and hand the belt over to Fury during yesterday’s press conference.Actually AJs a earner so theyd probably Pull a WBA and just make him a 2nd Champ In the Division. Wonder why most people think the sports corrupt it’s because sh.it like this and the judging that doesn’t try’s to hide its biases often which often looks worse then this move

Yeah that Saunders vs Isufi fight is a ****ing joke ..how can a guy who has beaten no one we know and who lost to Dariusz Szek get a freaking shot for the vacant world title ?

I don't think he ducked it as such.. he was going to get 25% as a challenger. I reckon BT and Warren weren't happy about him fighting on another promoters card and network for 25% of a fight that isn't even big. Now they can pick up a WBO title in another division while being the A-side and running their own card on their own network. I think most would've taken this route under the circumstances. Let's be fair, he was WBO champ already, signed to fight GGG twice and it never happened. Couldn't get a fight with Canelo either. It's not like being Middleweight champ served him all that well in getting big fights anyway. Not that he wasn't to blame at times either. He still said he will fight at MW for good fights but i can't see him taking 25% against a guy that doesn't draw money on a rival promoters card. You would only take that deal against someone like Canelo where 25% is good money. I read the 1st 2 or 3 lines & I had it in mind I was going to ask "are you from the UK?" As I kept reading I realized I no longer need to ask that question.

You are right. It's an outrage and a disgrace. Boxrec ranks the guy Saunders is fighting for the title as the 33rd best in the world which is where he belongs and not as the number 1 contender. Saunders is being given an almost risk free title shot against a guy he is almost certain to beat. I've seen him fight plenty of times. Sadly - 33 is way too high and He only got there because his promoters in germany got him some terrible guys with decent records. There are fighters on Shobox who'd completely dominate him - Ronald Ellis, Junior Younan, DeAndre Ware and such. In reality, Isufi is not even top 100. Dude is a bum, straight up... and They dropped Jessie Hart out of number 2 to put Saunders in there... JOKE!

You are right. It's an outrage and a disgrace. Boxrec ranks the guy Saunders is fighting for the title as the 33rd best in the world which is where he belongs and not as the number 1 contender. Saunders is being given an almost risk free title shot against a guy he is almost certain to beat.

I called this shlt last night. Check my posts. Holy shlt BJS ducked the shlt outta Demetrius Andrade #AndradeGGG I don't think he ducked it as such.. he was going to get 25% as a challenger. I reckon BT and Warren weren't happy about him fighting on another promoters card and network for 25% of a fight that isn't even big. Now they can pick up a WBO title in another division while being the A-side and running their own card on their own network. I think most would've taken this route under the circumstances. Let's be fair, he was WBO champ already, signed to fight GGG twice and it never happened. Couldn't get a fight with Canelo either. It's not like being Middleweight champ served him all that well in getting big fights anyway. Not that he wasn't to blame at times either. He still said he will fight at MW for good fights but i can't see him taking 25% against a guy that doesn't draw money on a rival promoters card. You would only take that deal against someone like Canelo where 25% is good money.

I called this shlt last night. Check my posts. Holy shlt BJS ducked the shlt outta Demetrius Andrade #AndradeGGG

Yeah, the two promoters who have historically controlled the WBO are now officially working together. Bob Arum and Frank Warren. Strange coincident that Top Rank's Jessie Hart is dropped from number 2 - as Frank's Saunders replaces him... just as Frank and Bob make a deal on co-promotion for Fury? Here's a script from Telephon conversation I hacked into: "Bob, I like You offer on Fury... but I need a little bit of help.. You know They took that belt from Billy - and I need him to fight for championship to have a card in U.K that I can sell as "Championship Boxing"... Andrade is tough fight, We don't need that... and Jessie is too good for Saunders to fight right away at 168.". "Ok, Frank - I'm not going to complain to Paco about Jessie Hart not fighting for vacant belt if We make that deal on Fury." "But are You going to make sure Zurdo vacates his belt, Bob?... He just said He wants to keep it for now." "Don't worry, Frank. Just make Tyson sign that contract here - and I'll talk to Ramirez, I got this". "Ok, I'll call Paco. I think He has a bum ready for Billy to fight. His name is SUSUFI or something".

WBO shouldn't even count as a legitimate belt. Top rank has control over it as well and thats why i don't consider Crawford a champion at 147. Yeah, the two promoters who have historically controlled the WBO are now officially working together. Bob Arum and Frank Warren.

WBO shouldn't even count as a legitimate belt. Top rank has control over it as well and thats why i don't consider Crawford a champion at 147.

I need Teddy Atlas to talk about it on his next Podcast. ...and Saunders has a nerve to question Eubank Jr. claim to world title. Quinlan is better than Isufi!