Lopez is with Top Rank right? Loma would be the favorite but he'd have his hands full.
Is Arum just letting the fight marinate? Is he afraid Lopez might derail Loma? If Lopez loses to Loma, no big deal, he'll still go on to have a good career, but if Loma loses to Lopez it seriously damages his invincible image.
It would be a great fight though. Lopez is very quick and explosive with power in both hands and he would the naturally bigger fighter. If Loma is as good as everyone thinks he is, he should press for this fight.
Lopez is with Top Rank right? Loma would be the favorite but he'd have his hands full.
Is Arum just letting the fight marinate? Is he afraid Lopez might derail Loma? If Lopez loses to Loma, no big deal, he'll still go on to have a good career, but if Loma loses to Lopez it seriously damages his invincible image.
It would be a great fight though. Lopez is very quick and explosive with power in both hands and he would the naturally bigger fighter. If Loma is as good as everyone thinks he is, he should press for this fight.
The invinsible image was damaged when he got dropped by Linares. Made alotta people realize Loma got a ceiling and will eventually lose to a bigger stronger guy (prob at 140)
i hear what you are saying...but i have to believe that loma was preparing for 12 round fights...i dont believe he was preparing and training for 4-6 rounders and just jumped in there...he knew full well what he was getting into and knew full well who salido was.....some people act as if loma just kinda went pro blindly and without preparing for it...like he walked out of an amatuer tournament and fought a pro 12 rounder the next week.....he knew what he doing
There’s a reason fighter’s step competition/rounds up gradually. Thinking your ready and having the experience to know you’re ready are different things.
you can train all you want for 12 rounders, but at the end of the day, training with a clock is a lot different than a real fight taking blows to the body. I remember them asking Mike Tyson after his first fight that went the distance, and he said he was worried during the fight because he had never gone a full 10 rounds, so he didnt want to be too aggressive.
Klitchko trained for 12 round fights his whole career, but got gassed and KO'd against both Brewster and Purity
then Brewster and purity got KO'd by the Klits and careers ended
Uber driver Salido disagrees. He says both beat him. Loma isn't invincible by any stretch, except maybe to blind fanboys like yourself.
Let's make the Lopez fight first. There isn't any promotional divide. Easy to make. Let's do it.
the uber driver was on his way to beating mikey Garcia until mikey wormed his way out. WHO EVER FOUGHT A CHAMP IN THEIR FIRST FIGHT?
Actually Loma does 15 round sparing with different guy every 3 round.
right....there ya go...
and im sure he was doing that before he turned pro and def ahead of a salido fight.....so he was learning how to pace himself over 12-15....
i like loma...i just dont buy the excuse fans on message boards make up for the salido fight...loma knew exactly what he was getting into....he obviously felt ready for it....i think loma just didnt account for how tough some pros are...i think he thought his skill would just overwhelm him
nah i totally realize that.....but i dont think that loma went into a 12 round fight without simulating them.....i know sparring is just a simulation and they dont really mirror the "real thing"......but loma and his team arent stupid...they knew what they were getting into....im sure they were sparring 12 rounders and prob putting a new guy in there every 3 rounds and whatever.......they didnt go into this thing blind
that being said...im not knocking loma...i think hes great...i really do....just saying..i dont buy that excuse that people make for him....loma felt comfortable going into it....they knew what they were dealing with....they arent strangers to the sport
Actually Loma does 15 round sparing with different guy every 3 round.
you can train all you want for 12 rounders, but at the end of the day, training with a clock is a lot different than a real fight taking blows to the body. I remember them asking Mike Tyson after his first fight that went the distance, and he said he was worried during the fight because he had never gone a full 10 rounds, so he didnt want to be too aggressive.
Klitchko trained for 12 round fights his whole career, but got gassed and KO'd against both Brewster and Purity
nah i totally realize that.....but i dont think that loma went into a 12 round fight without simulating them.....i know sparring is just a simulation and they dont really mirror the "real thing"......but loma and his team arent stupid...they knew what they were getting into....im sure they were sparring 12 rounders and prob putting a new guy in there every 3 rounds and whatever.......they didnt go into this thing blind
that being said...im not knocking loma...i think hes great...i really do....just saying..i dont buy that excuse that people make for him....loma felt comfortable going into it....they knew what they were dealing with....they arent strangers to the sport
What people who always bring the salido fight are forgetting is that Loma almost sparked Salido at the end of that fight when he realized he needed to do it.
It was his first fight and doubt that Lona would have lost if he had one or two fights prior to Salido's fight.
People just keep bringing that fluke up because they hate and there is nothing else they can use against Loma, who is P4P the best fighter in the world.
i hear what you are saying...but i have to believe that loma was preparing for 12 round fights...i dont believe he was preparing and training for 4-6 rounders and just jumped in there...he knew full well what he was getting into and knew full well who salido was.....some people act as if loma just kinda went pro blindly and without preparing for it...like he walked out of an amatuer tournament and fought a pro 12 rounder the next week.....he knew what he doing
you can train all you want for 12 rounders, but at the end of the day, training with a clock is a lot different than a real fight taking blows to the body. I remember them asking Mike Tyson after his first fight that went the distance, and he said he was worried during the fight because he had never gone a full 10 rounds, so he didnt want to be too aggressive.
Klitchko trained for 12 round fights his whole career, but got gassed and KO'd against both Brewster and Purity
Why would he throw Lopez to Loma? Lopez has had one test so far. He's nowhere near ready for that fight.
You do that fight now, and for the next 10 years you'll have idiots saying Loma only took the fight because Lopez was green and inexperienced. Loma can fight Comney, Garcia (hopefully) at 135 and he can still go down and defend at 130 against Berchelt (Id love that) Davis (doubtful, hed rather fight bantamweights) while Lopez matures.
I also doubt loma move much higher than 135 if at all, outside maybe some type of unification near the end of his career. A showdown with tank in the next couple years is far more likely than Lopez.
As far as loma vs salido(I actually thought loma slightly edged it), there were a few factors that more pro experienced would have helped with. First, how to deal with guys who fight on the edge of the rules and more importantly, how to pace himself for a tough 12 round fight. Loma was not active enough early to mid fight. He fought as tho he wasn’t sure what he’d have going down the stretch and we all saw he had a lot left. He coulda stepped on it a couple rounds earlier and possibly stopped salido. That fight was good experience for him either way...with far more than fighting 10 set ups.
i hear what you are saying...but i have to believe that loma was preparing for 12 round fights...i dont believe he was preparing and training for 4-6 rounders and just jumped in there...he knew full well what he was getting into and knew full well who salido was.....some people act as if loma just kinda went pro blindly and without preparing for it...like he walked out of an amatuer tournament and fought a pro 12 rounder the next week.....he knew what he doing
Loma has similar record.
Loma has a similar record to Lopez. Really?
Linares, Rigo, Pedraza, Walters, Salido, Russell, Martinez even Sosa and Marriaga.
You're saying Lopez has similar ring experience to Loma?
The only similar thing is the overall number of fights both guys have had.
How many of Lopez's opponents bar the recent few had you even seen fight before they faced Lopez?
Usyk has 16 pro fights, yet he's faced Huck, Hunter, Gassiev, Bellew, Glowacki, Briedis.
Lawrence Okolie has had 11 CW fights, only a few fights less than Usyk. Are their records similar would you say?
Is this the time when the amateur record is allowed to be used? I guess it depends how the Loma fans feel.
Sometimes they say, poor Loma only 12 pro fights, other times he becomes a fierce lion with a ton of boxing experience and 400 amateur fights to prove it.
Which one is it? Can't have it all ways.
No they are not allowed to be mentioned, write off all those amateur fights. Forget they ever happened.
Those 400 wins, Olympic and World Championship Golds mean nothing and didn't shape Loma at all. The experience that came with them had no bearing on the fighter he is today. Clearly. :sad:
Then who are the best at 135, in your opinion, after Lomachenko? Would you pick Lopez to lose against them?
There are good fights for loma at 130 as well...I don’t understand the rush for Lopez to face loma? Let the kid get a couple fights vs some rated opponents to see what’s what.
Lopez looks the goods. He is only 12 fights in though and hasn't fought anyone of note. I don't think he's ready to be in the ring with an elite, P4P guy.
Loma has similar record. Is this the time when the amateur record is allowed to be used? I guess it depends how the Loma fans feel.
Sometimes they say, poor Loma only 12 pro fights, other times he becomes a fierce lion with a ton of boxing experience and 400 amateur fights to prove it.
Which one is it? Can't have it all ways.