Dillian Whyte is #3 not Deontay Wilder!

1. So Wilder could have fought anyone...from Wilder's own mouth...he is the 'baddest man on the planet' :rofl: so surely he could have put David Price to sleep! 2. How is it a low offer when Wilder had never earned that amount in a single fight before? Wilder has still never proven that he is a PPV draw so why would Matchroom commit a larger amount of cash to get Wilder to fight Joshua when the biggest draw, by a considerable margin, is Joshua? 2. The $50m was not a legitimate offer. Watch the interviews with Joshua during the build up to the Canelo v Fielding fight at MSG. He breaks down why its wasn't a real $50m. Also, why didn't Finkel/Haymon meet Hearn to discuss the details of the contract around the $50m? They didn't send over any details around venue or anything but Joshua had to sign up to a bunch of BS first. Then it comes out that the $50m was a collaboration with Frank Warren to show the fight on BT Sports in the UK...Joshua only fights on Sky Sports Box Office...and everyone knows that. 3. So when Hearn sent over a signed contract, signed by Hearn because he legally has power of attorney to do so, then that's not a legitimate contract for Wilder to sign? 4. Now Wilder has PUBLICALLY admitted that he is ducking Joshua. You GTFOH, dumbass. Do you post just for shock value or are you truly this stupid? 1. You dolt. It wasn't Price that team Joshua insisted Wilder fight, it was Whyte. 2. Given the value of a Wilder/Joshua matchup, 12 million is a garbage offer. Even hardcore Joshua fans admit this. 3. 50 million is 50 million, who gives a crap where it comes from? When you name your price for a fight then that price is met and you won't take the fight, that's a duck plain and simple (even for an idiot like you) 4. Wilder didn't publicly (you spelled it wrong genius)admit shyte. He just stated that he was pursuing a Fury rematch. Given that he probably should have lost the first fight and how little REAL interest team Joshua has in this fight, who could blame him? 5. All of the negative stuff posted about Wilder is true. His resume isn't very good and his style for the most part is ultra sloppy. All of which begs for an answer to the question, why are you Brits so afraid this fight might actually happen? Does the memory of Joshua reeling around the ring (vs Wlad) knowing full well that if that was Wilder he scores that KO? Are truly that scared of the big bad Yank?

I don't recall Deontay Wilder walking away from a $50 million dollar payday... We know that 50 Mill offer was bull****. But please do tell. What has that got to do with what we're saying? The poster made the claim of Brits wanting to see the Whyte rematch over a Wilder fight. Which just isn't true. So save this nonsense as it has absolutely nothing to do with the topic at hand.

you understand that eddie hearn offered less than joe parker made last time he madea public offer? right? he tried to hide AJ behind white. he took a "mandatory," over alex povetkin. now he's tryying to fight dillian white again. he offered a flat fee which would have amounted to 10-20%. joe parker got 30-35%. and FFS he got a percent! if you look the refusal of that offer and think, "wilder is ducking," you are not worth my time and really, really don't understand boxing. eddie was given the biggest guarantee at HW of all time and a split, for the record, when the fight was offered in las vegas. he would not agree to those terms because he wanted to take the fight in the UK it is what it is, you don't understand boxing if you don't see what was going on in 2018. Without going over who's ducking who for the 1 millionth time, may I ask, what has this got to do with your claim of British fans preferring to see the Whyte fight over Wilder?

Lucas Browne and Robert Helenius LMFAO

You want a list of people Beyonce was outboxed by and the bums he was dropped by? Lol Extremely difficult to give any credibility to anyone who thinks PAC=Duran

Wilder has PUBLICALLY stated that he is avoiding Joshua. It wasn't put any other way. Joshua isn't avoiding Wilder. In order to get a Joshua fight first Wilder has to fight Joshua’s stablemate, then team Joshua sends over a ridiculously low offer then Joshua names his price for this fight and when that price is met the backpedaling begins then team Joshua sends over a contract with no date but Joshua isn’t avoiding Wilder? GTFOH with that BS

Whyte Top 5 Opponents Lucas Browne (W KO6) Dereck Chisora (W SD & W KO11) Robert Helenius (W UD) Anthony Joshua (L TKO7) Joseph Parker (W UD) Wilder Top 5 Opponents Tyson Fury (D SD) (ROBBERY) Eric Molina (W KO9) Luis Ortiz (W TKO10) Artur Szpilka (W KO9) Bermane Stiverne (W UD & W KO1) Ortiz and probably Stiverne are better fighters than anyone on Whyte’s list so you lose

Whyte Top 5 Opponents Lucas Browne (W KO6) Dereck Chisora (W SD & W KO11) Robert Helenius (W UD) Anthony Joshua (L TKO7) Joseph Parker (W UD) Wilder Top 5 Opponents Tyson Fury (D SD) (ROBBERY) Eric Molina (W KO9) Luis Ortiz (W TKO10) Artur Szpilka (W KO9) Bermane Stiverne (W UD & W KO1) https://i832.photobucket.com/albums/zz246/ardern0/images_zpspy2nyvx0.jpeg

You want a list of people Beyonce was outboxed by and the bums he was dropped by? Lol 1st of all don't come online and call a 6'7 pro boxer a name you would not dare say to his face, show some respect.. I never claimed Wilder was some great boxer but I just want to know why ya'll are acting like Whye is doing anything great. I have never seen Wilder outboxed by a guy with almost 10 losses by the way

Whyte Top 5 Opponents Lucas Browne (W KO6) Dereck Chisora (W SD & W KO11) Robert Helenius (W UD) Anthony Joshua (L TKO7) Joseph Parker (W UD) Wilder Top 5 Opponents Tyson Fury (D SD) (ROBBERY) Eric Molina (W KO9) Luis Ortiz (W TKO10) Artur Szpilka (W KO9) Bermane Stiverne (W UD & W KO1)Then he should fight Luis Ortiz to get in line for that second mandatory spot. After Wilder disposes of Dominic Breazeale, Whyte could easily be his next mandatory defense if he challenges and defeats Luis Ortiz.

Guy was getting outboxed by Derrick Chisora,dropped by Parker and almost stopped..why are ya'll acting like he is better then he really is? You want a list of people Beyonce was outboxed by and the bums he was dropped by? Lol

Wilder has PUBLICALLY stated that he is avoiding Joshua. It wasn't put any other way. Joshua isn't avoiding Wilder. make no mistake, neither of these guys decide who they fight. i'm sure joshua would fight wilder, and wilder would fight joshua. they have people in their ears, al haymon and eddie hearn primarily, who are incredibly good at communicating with fighters behind closed doors and shaping the public narrative. iff you blame wilder's team more than you blame joshua's for this fight not happening until 2019, and really for the fight not happening while both are undefeated because wilder lost to fury on a decent scorecard, you have no idea at all what you are looking at. genuinely none. until tyson fury came back, which was never a certainty, deontay wilder was on showtime making 1.5 to 2 million on the books. haymon fighters get a stipend to fight each year, so they get more than that, but he wasn't even making what joshua opponents were making. until the fury fight and the result and the subsequent resale value being inflated hearn held almost all of the chips. he could make huge money at home without wilder. wilder / haymon could not do that. you have eddie hearn to blame chiefly for this fight not happening while both guys are undefeated. he's the main reason it didn't happen in 2018. do you really think eddie hearn would be ****ting on fury - wilder if he wanted to promote a fight with wilder when it was done? he does not want the fight right now. i wouldn't either! you can make a ton of money fighting dudes who command less split. the fight will literally be bigger in a year or two. why do it now? eddie hearn did this and thought this way in 2018. we shall see how he feels in 2019, we are 8 days in. ultimately it will be he who decides whether or not joshua fights wilder. if theyw ant to do it for the most money they will come to las vegas.

Huh??? Who is calling for the Whyte fight over Wilder? No one is doing that. We want Wilder, but he doesn't want anything to do with AJ. He's ducking like always and looking to take on Brezeale. He's said so himself. you understand that eddie hearn offered less than joe parker made last time he madea public offer? right? he tried to hide AJ behind white. he took a "mandatory," over alex povetkin. now he's tryying to fight dillian white again. he offered a flat fee which would have amounted to 10-20%. joe parker got 30-35%. and FFS he got a percent! if you look the refusal of that offer and think, "wilder is ducking," you are not worth my time and really, really don't understand boxing. eddie was given the biggest guarantee at HW of all time and a split, for the record, when the fight was offered in las vegas. he would not agree to those terms because he wanted to take the fight in the UK it is what it is, you don't understand boxing if you don't see what was going on in 2018.

He just fought Ortiz and Fury back to back you twat 4-10 heavyweight show him up keep Chisora , Browne and Robert Helenius away from him thats some killer row :lol1: And as I said, both showed him up. Ortiz should have beaten him, Fury probably did. I'd have Ortiz around Whyte's level. That's where I think Wilder is too. I said 4-10 ranked heavyweights will show him up for what he is. They won't always win, but they'll show him up. He's not elite. Do you really have the guys you mentioned in your top 10? Really? And you've got the nerve to call me a twat

Providing decent fights get made I think Wilder plummets out of contention. I'm very confident Fury and Joshua best him. Ortiz should have beaten him. Whyte will give him a good fight. To be honest, most decent heavyweights will. The vast majority will outbox him and it will come down to whether he can land a haymaker. You can't rely on that every time. Fury is a great fight for him. He gets completely outboxed but not knocked out and comes away looking like he can live with the big boys. Anyone who can outbox him (most fighters) AND throw a knockout punch doesn't give him that. If I were Wilder I'd only be looking at Fury (or possibly Joshua as a high risk fight in the hope of landing the shot that ends it). I wouldn't be going near a 4 to 10 ranked fighter. They'll show him up for what he is. He just fought Ortiz and Fury back to back you twat 4-10 heavyweight show him up keep Chisora , Browne and Robert Helenius away from him thats some killer row :lol1:

Providing decent fights get made I think Wilder plummets out of contention. I'm very confident Fury and Joshua best him. Ortiz should have beaten him. Whyte will give him a good fight. To be honest, most decent heavyweights will. The vast majority will outbox him and it will come down to whether he can land a haymaker. You can't rely on that every time. Fury is a great fight for him. He gets completely outboxed but not knocked out and comes away looking like he can live with the big boys. Anyone who can outbox him (most fighters) AND throw a knockout punch doesn't give him that. If I were Wilder I'd only be looking at Fury (or possibly Joshua as a high risk fight in the hope of landing the shot that ends it). I wouldn't be going near a 4 to 10 ranked fighter. They'll show him up for what he is.

dillian white got his ass kicked by anthony joshua. he had nothing for him. the idea that you guys want to see a rematch over fury or wilder is extremely telling. the best fighter wilder ever fought, tyson fury, he nearly knocked out. lots of refs would have stoppe that fight, credit to jack rees for having nerves of steel, and tyson fury for being one of the toughest men in the world. can you imagine the fallout from british losers if deontay wilder needed two fights with journeyman, 9 loss derek chisora? the first fight was f#ckin close :lol1: Huh??? Who is calling for the Whyte fight over Wilder? No one is doing that. We want Wilder, but he doesn't want anything to do with AJ. He's ducking like always and looking to take on Brezeale. He's said so himself.

Put it this way. If Fury wasn't robbed i have no doubt Wilder would be behind Whyte on every major HW ratings list. Chisora is tough but don’t mistake tough for great. Or even good for that matter.

Whyte is a good fighter who clearly deserves a title shot. His overall opposition has been at least as good as Wilder's opposition. The differences are Wilder beat the WBC world champion to become the WBC champion and Wilder has no KO loss marring his record as Whyte does. This clearly makes Wilder number 3 above number 4 Whyte to everyone except to some, somewhat bias as usual, English boxing fans.

TS flip flops more than i have hot dinners 1 day hes all over wilder now its whyte bored troll