Both on the extreme ends for Heavyweights in terms of measurements.
Mike Tyson
5'10", 218 lbs, 72" reach
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Deontay Wilder
6'7", 209 lbs, 83" reach
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Tyson has a neck like a bulldog and powerful build . his legs were also muscular and powerful
Wilder has a strange build . he has skinny legs , his arms are pretty thin but his back has alot of muscle , his shoulders are like cannon balls and he has alot of muscle on his chest . I guess the back , shoulders and chest are where he generates the power on his punches
Uh. No.
You serious??
Tyson has a neck like a bulldog and powerful build . his legs were also muscular and powerful
Wilder has a strange build . he has skinny legs , his arms are pretty thin but his back has alot of muscle , his shoulders are like cannon balls and he has alot of muscle on his chest . I guess the back , shoulders and chest are where he generates the power on his punches
--- Most dominant two heavies in history were ...
1 Joe Louis
2 Wlad Klitschko
Not surprisingly they have almost identical records.
Anything else regarding builds is just untutored fanboyism. Takes a whole lot more than physique to make a dominant heavy champ, but Joshua is off to a great start for now. I doubt he extends his career like Joe and Wlad did, but he sure is bringing back the huge stadium fights of Dempsey and rakeing in Tyson $$$$$, so there it is...
Idiots saying "imagine if Wilder was trained by...", what exactly do you envision? Deontay has a double-digit IQ in and out of the ring. He has learning difficulties. He wouldn't suddenly become some boxing master with a different trainer.
Just looking at a guy's build can't tell you how good a fighter he is. You might find another guy with a build very much like Tyson's build who couldn't fight or punch hard or take a punch. You could find a guy built the same as Wilder who did not punch hard at all. The heavyweight champ Ernie Terrell was built something like Wilder but he had a great left jab and was a decent boxer with only average power. You can tell by looks how good a fighter is or could be. All things equal I would say Wilder's build is a better build for boxing but I think a prime Tyson knocks a prime Wilder out..
Mike would've killed Wilder. The difference in skill was night and day. The same goes for prime Mike beating Fury and Joshua. Mike knew how to fight big guys. Now don't confuse what Im saying because of how I am saying this lmao. None of those guys had Buster type skills that you needed to beat Mike for money fight. You needed movement, a hard jab, combos, and an unbreakable will. I don't see those skills in any of the 3.
Evander would beat deontay's ass
he needs a jab bad. He would be beaten badly by Joshua. I don't know if he has the stature for a power jab. He just has to continue to be himself.
Thats like hatton trying the shoulder roll hahahahahahahahaha
Iron Mike hands down. Mike has no neck which makes impervious to punches. He also has a better stature for boxing. Larger thighs. larger calves. bigger hands/forearms. The dude was a tank that moved as fast as a hummingbird...
Mike has immense power. I met him in real life. Very intimidating guy
You guys are comical to me.
Emmanuel Steward would be the downfall of Deontay.
Deontay, is a power brawler. He is the opposite Wlad, even though the physical stats of the 2 are similar.
Cus would have done wonders for Deontay. Like it or not, Deontay, and Mike Tyson's style are very similar
Tyson was a super athlete. Those are insane genetics. His speed, agility, power, etc are all directly attributed to his build. You can’t learn those attributes. Deontay isnt particularly gifted outside of length and his power which has nothing to do with his build. Just freaky god give power. He’s kind of dopey and really should be a better athlete with that build. He’s not fast or anything considering his size. Steward would have been perfect for him. If he could have developed a snapping and educated left hand, he coulda been something akin to Hearns but Hearns build was much more dramatic considering his division.
I’d have loved to see a well schooled guy with Wilder’s dimensions at Cruiser. He’s too top heavy and lanky at HW where he can be matched in height and length and dwarfed in strength.
Hell, Tyson gives the current giant hws a problem due to his style and build. Deontay is just not skilled and dopey, AJ has issues with smaller guys, and Fury doesnt punch sharp or hard enough or possess a good enough uppercut..interesting mamtchup though. Lennox Lewis had a good sweet spot of height, skill, power, and strength and Evander was also small and ferocious and could fight Tyson and negate many of the advantages that Tyson would create against taller guys by dipping low on his way in and making them punch in an extremely unnatural way and giving impossible angles to deal with when youre tall and less skilled... Evander’s attributes were also enviable with that freak chin.
Tyson (build) all day for HW out of those two
A good version of Deontay (build) at Cruiser sounds terrifying and it’s not too late. I’d f ucking LOVE if Deontay dropped a bomb and said he wants Usyk at CW. He could definitely make that.
Good point about Wilder being better suited for CW.
Jon Jones a UFC Lightweight 205 lbs limit walks around at about 230 lbs before cutting.
Deontay fought his last heavyweight match at 209 lbs. Hell if he tried to cut like most MMA fighter do he could probably get down to 185 lbs.
Tyson was a super athlete. Those are insane genetics. His speed, agility, power, etc are all directly attributed to his build. You can’t learn those attributes. Deontay isnt particularly gifted outside of length and his power which has nothing to do with his build. Just freaky god give power. He’s kind of dopey and really should be a better athlete with that build. He’s not fast or anything considering his size. Steward would have been perfect for him. If he could have developed a snapping and educated left hand, he coulda been something akin to Hearns but Hearns build was much more dramatic considering his division.
I’d have loved to see a well schooled guy with Wilder’s dimensions at Cruiser. He’s too top heavy and lanky at HW where he can be matched in height and length and dwarfed in strength.
Hell, Tyson gives the current giant hws a problem due to his style and build. Deontay is just not skilled and dopey, AJ has issues with smaller guys, and Fury doesnt punch sharp or hard enough or possess a good enough uppercut..interesting mamtchup though. Lennox Lewis had a good sweet spot of height, skill, power, and strength and Evander was also small and ferocious and could fight Tyson and negate many of the advantages that Tyson would create against taller guys by dipping low on his way in and making them punch in an extremely unnatural way and giving impossible angles to deal with when youre tall and less skilled... Evander’s attributes were also enviable with that freak chin.
Tyson (build) all day for HW out of those two
A good version of Deontay (build) at Cruiser sounds terrifying and it’s not too late. I’d f ucking LOVE if Deontay dropped a bomb and said he wants Usyk at CW. He could definitely make that.
Tyson is a classic mesomorph easy to gain muscles while Deontay is a classic ectomorph lean and hard to gain weight.
Wilder says he struggles to put on and maintain weight regardless of the meal plans he's on.
Both of them put in work but are subject to the limitations of genetics.
You sound too smart to be in here.
Tyson definitely looks like a mini tank while Deontay looks like a basketball player.
I suppose Deontay has the advantages cause he has height reach plus power but Tyson knew how to set people up for a Knock out and could box.
To answer the question I would rather have Deontays frame if they both are a blank canvas.
Tyson is a classic mesomorph easy to gain muscles while Deontay is a classic ectomorph lean and hard to gain weight.
Wilder says he struggles to put on and maintain weight regardless of the meal plans he's on.
Both of them put in work but are subject to the limitations of genetics.
Tyson definitely looks like a mini tank while Deontay looks like a basketball player.
I suppose Deontay has the advantages cause he has height reach plus power but Tyson knew how to set people up for a Knock out and could box.
To answer the question I would rather have Deontays frame if they both are a blank canvas.