You don't win fights by landing one straight-left every couple of minutes. Charlo out-jabbed Korobov by like a 5-1 ratio. He pressed the action. He hurt him in the 12th. He was the aggressor. He threw and landed more. And he even landed more power punches. Korobov was slicker, but with no purpose. All of his movement was wasted because he didn't launch any punches in return.
I had it 9-3 Charlo, but I can understand the 119-108. The judges who had this 116-112 should be ashamed of themselves.
There was no clear victor in this fight. Neither fighter won this fight clearly. Charlo ran about even with a 35 year old Matvey Korobov who had to lose two extra pounds on one weeks notice because the fight he had contracted for two pounds more, and he had not fought a significant opponent in a number of years.
Going in I saw this as a potential upset, in fairness to Charlo, what happened speaks to how talented Korobov actually is more so than Charlo's lack of talent. This is a guy Korobov who beat Jose Uzcategui, one of the top guys at 168 right now, and who stopped Danny Jacobs in the amateurs, and also defeated Sergiy Derevyanchenko in the amateurs. And Charlo also only had one week to prepare for this very under rated fighter.
Because of perception of Korobov being some sort of joke because he got stopped by Andy Lee in a fight he was winning, Korobov's stock rose dramatically with this fight and Charlo's has fallen. I am very interested to see who they put Korobov in there with next. Nobody came out with a clear victory here, you can't say with clear conviction, watching that fight, that Charlo is a better fighter than a 35 year old Korobov.
Absolutely NOT!
I had it 7-5 Charlo but if people are arguing a "DRAW" then I wouldn't argue against that but a lot of the "Korobov Was Robbed" is out of hatred for the Charlo Brothers which they brought on themselves because of the Arrogance and the Trash Talking so they won't receive no sympathy. What looks bad is that one score card in which that guy had his card filled out before the fight and took a nap during the fight clearly. 119-108? That Judge should be investigated for sure! It was a close fight but I do felt Charlo did enough particularly in the 12 to get by and hold on to his Interim Belt.
I most certainly wouldn't mind a rematch allowing Korobov to have a full camp to prep and not less than a week, same for Jermall who only had a week to prep for Korobov. If No GGG, Canelo or Jacobs next then rematch! :dunno:
Lol you're a ****ing clown
So now Jabs matter all of a sudden ? Bet you wasn't saying that with GGG vs Canelo. And you're basing it on what exactly...Compubox ? Laughable, Korobov was outlanding him in a lot of the rounds where it was only him landing the flush shots while making Charlo overreach and miss alot(yes his jab as well) Charlo ate straight lefts all night long...no head movement. I thought it was a close fight that could've gone either way
Good post. I'll stick with my card being a draw since it was initial reaction.
Mine too, in fact I didn't watch it till the morning (and then a bit half assed over breakfast) but my first reaction was a draw... in fact I probably leaned towards Jermall initially and now I'm leaning more to Matvey, but there's no point in second guessing yourself because with enough rationalisation you can convince yourself of just about anything.
I'm as guilty as anyone when it comes to rewatching and rescoring fights, but this is indeed well established psychology. One form of irrationality is the tendency of the brain to very quickly form strong narratives to fit new events into a perceived reality and then to subsequently ignore or skew things that contradict that narrative.
Good post. I'll stick with my card being a draw since it was initial reaction.
The only score that really matters is the first time you watch a fight...after that you have a narrative in the back of your mind and are influenced by it.
I'm as guilty as anyone when it comes to rewatching and rescoring fights, but this is indeed well established psychology. One form of irrationality is the tendency of the brain to very quickly form strong narratives to fit new events into a perceived reality and then to subsequently ignore or skew things that contradict that narrative.
It is true...judges only score the live event. Not that any of our scorecards really matter, but once you know who won, how the fight went and what other people think...you’re not seeing it objectively. Even less so if you’re a fan of one of the fighters more than the other.
I totally fughin agree
Especially once you know the result it’s just human function , really
I was pulling for Korobov in a way. I always felt a little bad about how Arum discarded him. Really impressed by his performance tonight all things considering. If you don't like how I've rescored the fight that's fine, man. I can't change your opinion.
It’s not that at all, I just don’t like the premise of rescoring fights in general.
You don't win fights by landing one straight-left every couple of minutes. Charlo out-jabbed Korobov by like a 5-1 ratio. He pressed the action. He hurt him in the 12th. He was the aggressor. He threw and landed more. And he even landed more power punches. Korobov was slicker, but with no purpose. All of his movement was wasted because he didn't launch any punches in return.
I had it 9-3 Charlo, but I can understand the 119-108. The judges who had this 116-112 should be ashamed of themselves.
Did you see all the jabs and clean shots charlo was landing in the first 8 rds. Now there's a new criteria in boxing? If the jab lands in the air and hits the glove it's a scoring point. Korobov straight left hands don't count though. It's not a valid punch.
It is true...judges only score the live event. Not that any of our scorecards really matter, but once you know who won, how the fight went and what other people think...you’re not seeing it objectively. Even less so if you’re a fan of one of the fighters more than the other.
I was pulling for Korobov in a way. I always felt a little bad about how Arum discarded him. Really impressed by his performance tonight all things considering. If you don't like how I've rescored the fight that's fine, man. I can't change your opinion.
That's not true. I watched it again because I really did think Korobov deserved a draw but on the replay I was disappointed. I thought G beat Jacobs too but I was never able to give him that fight when I rewatched it.
It is true...judges only score the live event. Not that any of our scorecards really matter, but once you know who won, how the fight went and what other people think...you’re not seeing it objectively. Even less so if you’re a fan of one of the fighters more than the other.
The only score that really matters is the first time you watch a fight...after that you have a narrative in the back of your mind and are influenced by it.
That's not true. I watched it again because I really did think Korobov deserved a draw but on the replay I was disappointed. I thought G beat Jacobs too but I was never able to give him that fight when I rewatched it.
I rewatched and it was like 7-5 or 8-4. I had a draw at first but in between those big eye catching straight lefts Matt didn't do much. He was just game, that's all.
The only score that really matters is the first time you watch a fight...after that you have a narrative in the back of your mind and are influenced by it.
You don't win fights by landing one straight-left every couple of minutes. Charlo out-jabbed Korobov by like a 5-1 ratio. He pressed the action. He hurt him in the 12th. He was the aggressor. He threw and landed more. And he even landed more power punches. Korobov was slicker, but with no purpose. All of his movement was wasted because he didn't launch any punches in return.
I had it 9-3 Charlo, but I can understand the 119-108. The judges who had this 116-112 should be ashamed of themselves.
Jermall? Jermall?? Is that you, jermall??:wave:
lol
Seriously everytime you score a fight it seems like you have just no idea what youre watching. Man stop it lol. You either retarded or just a groupie. Which one are you?
I rewatched and it was like 7-5 or 8-4. I had a draw at first but in between those big eye catching straight lefts Matt didn't do much. He was just game, that's all.