UK Fans: Which PPV this weekend or none?

I'm ordering the Frampton fight and streaming the Whyte/Chisora one. The reason is that after 5 days you can download the Whyte/Chisora fights so I can add them to my collection whereas if I don't order and record the Frampton fight, I won't ever get it.

Bellew/Haye Bellew/Usyk Joshua/Parker Joshua/Povetkin Whyte/Parker Whyte/Chisora Warrington/Frampton Wilder/Fury Groves/Eubank Groves/Smith =$244 ($24 avg) Golovkin/Canelo Wilder/Fury =$160 ($80 avg) Yeah, really adds up. 10 cards to 2 for $80 extra. I'd say that's good value. Most of these fights wouldn't have happened if not for PPV. Fighters would fight more infrequently and against lesser opposition. So you just showed you guys have to pay more for PPV fights. Why are you comparing it that way when you exclude fights like Porter/Garcia, Wilder/Ortiz, Lara/Hurd, Lomachenko/Linares, Lomachenko/Rigo, LSC/Mares, LSC, Frampton, Thurman/Porter, Thurman/Garcia, Stevenson/Jack, etc the last few years taking place on non-PPVs? We get more quality than a lot of your PPVs on either SHO/ESPN/CBS/etc. Not like you guys are getting better fights that are going on PPV. It's just any decent fight goes on PPV. Like Degale/Jack was on SHO. If that fight took place in the UK, no chance that it doesn't go on PPV. And the fact a lot of those fights don't happen if they aren't on PPV is a problem. Like how the hell does Chisora/Whyte or Parker/Whyte not take place without PPV? That makes no sense. The license fees that networks like SKY put on are trash it seems. Now, high license fees stateside makes the promoters not care as much of the live gate, so you guys definitely get MUCH better crowds. I respect that about the UK for sure.

You paid all that money to watch all those fights. We paid for the 2 PPV fights and if a UK fight is big enough to be shown here we catch it on one of the US networks. All those fights weren't on PPV here, most of those you could catch on DAZN for another $20 or ESPN for Frampton/Warrington. The only reason those fights aren't picked up in the US is because of geography. You can't show them prime time and live so of course there's not much clamour or interest for them. And in this year's examples in particular none of the fighters are US based anyway :lol1:

Of course Frampton-Warrington.

Bellew/Haye Bellew/Usyk Joshua/Parker Joshua/Povetkin Whyte/Parker Whyte/Chisora Warrington/Frampton Wilder/Fury Groves/Eubank Groves/Smith =$244 ($24 avg) Golovkin/Canelo Wilder/Fury =$160 ($80 avg) Yeah, really adds up. 10 cards to 2 for $80 extra. I'd say that's good value. Most of these fights wouldn't have happened if not for PPV. Fighters would fight more infrequently and against lesser opposition. You paid all that money to watch all those fights. We paid for the 2 PPV fights and if a UK fight is big enough to be shown here we catch it on one of the US networks. All those fights weren't on PPV here, most of those you could catch on DAZN for another $20 or ESPN for Frampton/Warrington.

I'm just waiting for you to tell me where all these quality PPVs are. Wilder v Fury card was crap. Canelo v Golovkin card was crap. Joshua/Parker Joshua/Povetkin Bellew/Usyk would all be PPV level quality main events in the US. Whyte v Parker wouldn't be but it was also worth the £20 for entertainment value. Whyte/Chisora is expected to be damn more entertaining than Frampton v Warrington and people love heavyweights. Is it of the quality of other PPVs this year? Of course not. But I don't mind paying it still. £20 is nothing split between friends. Maybe RJJ GOAT has no friends, that is the problem. Or he's s boxing 'purist' who see's casuals as beneath him. None of the fights you mentioned would be PPV fights here in the US. If they were they would do Kovalev/Ward numbers or less. The crazy thing is Hearn claims that AJ is a mega star but when he fights in the US, he will be fighting on DAZN instead of testing the US PPV market to compare to Wilder/Fury.

So then why is Hearn complaining so much about the US PPV price point when any good to decent fight in the UK ends up on PPV? You guys make up for the lack of price point with the quantity of PPVs that take place. I'm sorry, but Whyte/Parker in no ways is a PPV quality fight however you look at it. And the amazing thing is it still did 400k buys! The $25.50 dollars the PPVs are adds up when you get 10-12 of them a year. Bellew/Haye Bellew/Usyk Joshua/Parker Joshua/Povetkin Whyte/Parker Whyte/Chisora Warrington/Frampton Wilder/Fury Groves/Eubank Groves/Smith =$244 ($24 avg) Golovkin/Canelo Wilder/Fury =$160 ($80 avg) Yeah, really adds up. 10 cards to 2 for $80 extra. I'd say that's good value. Most of these fights wouldn't have happened if not for PPV. Fighters would fight more infrequently and against lesser opposition.

I'm just waiting for you to tell me where all these quality PPVs are. Wilder v Fury card was crap. Canelo v Golovkin card was crap. Joshua/Parker Joshua/Povetkin Bellew/Usyk would all be PPV level quality main events in the US. Whyte v Parker wouldn't be but it was also worth the £20 for entertainment value. Whyte/Chisora is expected to be damn more entertaining than Frampton v Warrington and people love heavyweights. Is it of the quality of other PPVs this year? Of course not. But I don't mind paying it still. £20 is nothing split between friends. Maybe RJJ GOAT has no friends, that is the problem. Or he's s boxing 'purist' who see's casuals as beneath him.

Do me a favour and list all the great PPVs that should be happening over here and in the US. I hate to break it to you but here in the UK our bread and butter is British level fights and more often than not they land on a PPV. The Whyte/Parker fight was a great PPV. Yes or no? If you didn't find value in that £20 then there's no reasoning with you. If I'm just regurgitating Hearns speak and it's all nonsense then surely Frank Warren would be showing us how PPV is done? So then why is Hearn complaining so much about the US PPV price point when any good to decent fight in the UK ends up on PPV? You guys make up for the lack of price point with the quantity of PPVs that take place. I'm sorry, but Whyte/Parker in no ways is a PPV quality fight however you look at it. And the amazing thing is it still did 400k buys! The $25.50 dollars the PPVs are adds up when you get 10-12 of them a year. In the US, we have had two PPVs this year. Canelo vs GGG II and Wilder vs Fury. And even the latter got killed by some for being on PPV. Now, that will change next year with PBC going the PPV route and TR wanting to put on some themselves. But usually there are good reasons you see fights on PPVs stateside.

Quality PPVs? WE in the US get 2 a year which are usually big fights. Everything else isn't PPV and shown on regular cable tv. Obviously you in the UK gotta pay for domestic level fights on PPV which sometimes cost more a year than what we pay for our PPVs. I pay for what I want to watch, haven't paid one cent to DAZN because there isn't nothing big there for me to continue a subscription with them. The thing is when you have Hearn and other Brits bragging about how many UK PPVs certain fighters sell compared to US fighters is ludicrous. Every decent fight that is in the US would be on PPV if they fought in the UK. No match other match staged in the UK other than Wilder/AJ would be put on US PPV. Hearn is saying Wilder/Furys 300k PPVs is pathetic and comparing it to White/Parer, That fight wasn't even good enough for a network to pick it up and doubt that AJ would sell the same amount of PPVs in the US by fighting Miller. This is how brainwashed Hearn has some of the “fans” over here.😂😂

I'd rather 6 good PPVs a year than 3 great ones. More boxing = good Less boxing = bad Whyte v Chisora doesn't happen without PPV money and Sky's investment into boxing doesn't continue without PPVs. It's very easy to sit there and shout quality but who is ever putting on quality PPVs these days? You're being unrealistic. Boxers are making more money than ever and it's because of the PPV format (for now). And Whyte v Chisora IS top quality boxing. Two guys in the top 10 on the fringe of a title shot. Quality PPVs? WE in the US get 2 a year which are usually big fights. Everything else isn't PPV and shown on regular cable tv. Obviously you in the UK gotta pay for domestic level fights on PPV which sometimes cost more a year than what we pay for our PPVs. I pay for what I want to watch, haven't paid one cent to DAZN because there isn't nothing big there for me to continue a subscription with them. The thing is when you have Hearn and other Brits bragging about how many UK PPVs certain fighters sell compared to US fighters is ludicrous. Every decent fight that is in the US would be on PPV if they fought in the UK. No match other match staged in the UK other than Wilder/AJ would be put on US PPV. Hearn is saying Wilder/Furys 300k PPVs is pathetic and comparing it to White/Parer, That fight wasn't even good enough for a network to pick it up and doubt that AJ would sell the same amount of PPVs in the US by fighting Miller.

Hearn's idea of boxing booming is AJ selling out a stadium twice a year and the odd big fight here and there such as Usyk v Bellew and Bellew v Haye There isn't THAT many good fights happening. If you take the big names such as Brook and Khan, both are fighting garbage opponents. the WBSS final wasn't even in England despite having two english fighters. Then you have Hearn hyping up guys like Ritson, calling him a Geordie Golovkin and got him headlining events and he gets whooped by some Italian/Belgian journeyman. When your saturday night main events on Sky fights like Okolie v Chamberlain and guys like Ritson headlining, i think it's safe to say that we lack depth in quality when it comes to fights. Fights like that are undercard fights. Once gets to relatively big names together, he whacks on PPV, it's ridiculous. Just because Hearn is a good salesman, it doesn't actually mean boxing is booming. Wholeheartedly agree bro. It’s such a shame so many fans over here have no understanding of what the reality is at the moment. I mean the standard of PPV is appalling. As I always say though the genuine fans see straight through the salesman BS.

Do me a favour and list all the great PPVs that should be happening over here and in the US. I hate to break it to you but here in the UK our bread and butter is British level fights and more often than not they land on a PPV. The Whyte/Parker fight was a great PPV. Yes or no? If you didn't find value in that £20 then there's no reasoning with you. If I'm just regurgitating Hearns speak and it's all nonsense then surely Frank Warren would be showing us how PPV is done? Whyte-Parker was a terrible QUALITY PPV😂😂 I was in Hong Kong on holiday so I didn’t even watch that sh** To put it in context, on that very same night in the US they got Mikey Garcia vs Robert Easter a WORLD LIGHTWEIGHT UNIFICATION on premium network TV. You’re a naive idiot kid, going on the ignore list...

Chisora vs Whyte. Loved the first fight and can't wait for this one. I might order both and flick back and forth though.

Yeah exactly. Hearn is the one I’m referring to as lying. He makes out British boxing is booming and there’s so much money in it, yet there isn’t enough money to put fights like Whyte-Chisora on subscription television. Very contradictory... Hearn's idea of boxing booming is AJ selling out a stadium twice a year and the odd big fight here and there such as Usyk v Bellew and Bellew v Haye There isn't THAT many good fights happening. If you take the big names such as Brook and Khan, both are fighting garbage opponents. the WBSS final wasn't even in England despite having two english fighters. Then you have Hearn hyping up guys like Ritson, calling him a Geordie Golovkin and got him headlining events and he gets whooped by some Italian/Belgian journeyman. When your saturday night main events on Sky fights like Okolie v Chamberlain and guys like Ritson headlining, i think it's safe to say that we lack depth in quality when it comes to fights. Fights like that are undercard fights. Once gets to relatively big names together, he whacks on PPV, it's ridiculous. Just because Hearn is a good salesman, it doesn't actually mean boxing is booming.

True. I think i'll get the BT Sport one actually if i do and stream the Matchroom card. It'll be easier to find a good Sky stream anyway. At least Warrington is happy to put his belt on the line against a genuine good fighter in Frampton. He could've milked the title for a bit in Leeds, he always sells out. So i don't mind paying for that so much, even though i'm still not sure it's a PPV fight. Yeah credit to Warrington, he could of sold any arena/stadium out in Leeds and kept picking up easy pay cheques. Gonna be a crazy atmosphere in Manchester, both have great fanbases. I was at Frampton-Quigg and the Irish absolutely took over on the Saturday

There are quality PPV’s in the US all the time. Hearn abs Warren have even produced a few in the past. Unfortunately we now get substandard BS like Whyte-Chisora, due to greed. You’re literally just regurgitating what Hearn says on IFL😂😂 “Whyte-Chisora doesn’t happen without PPV” “Boxers are making more money than ever due to PPV” It’s nearly verbatim😭😭😭 People like you are what’s wrong with boxing in this country. Have an opinion instead of just regurgitating someone else’s. Gullible... Do me a favour and list all the great PPVs that should be happening over here and in the US. I hate to break it to you but here in the UK our bread and butter is British level fights and more often than not they land on a PPV. The Whyte/Parker fight was a great PPV. Yes or no? If you didn't find value in that £20 then there's no reasoning with you. If I'm just regurgitating Hearns speak and it's all nonsense then surely Frank Warren would be showing us how PPV is done?

Hearn underestimated how much USA fighters earn. That's why he hasn't been able to get any of the top fighters there to go fight on DAZN. Most of them have said publicly that they already earn more than he offered. I doubt they're lying, why would they lie about that and shortchange themselves? If Hearn paid them more than they earn now, they would go. Yeah exactly. Hearn is the one I’m referring to as lying. He makes out British boxing is booming and there’s so much money in it, yet there isn’t enough money to put fights like Whyte-Chisora on subscription television. Very contradictory...

Don’t buy one bro, just stream it. It’s the only way to have your voice heard. If you do, buy Warrington-Frampton cause at the very least its top level boxing. True. I think i'll get the BT Sport one actually if i do and stream the Matchroom card. It'll be easier to find a good Sky stream anyway. At least Warrington is happy to put his belt on the line against a genuine good fighter in Frampton. He could've milked the title for a bit in Leeds, he always sells out. So i don't mind paying for that so much, even though i'm still not sure it's a PPV fight.

Exactly, that's why i'm in two minds about buying one. It's not the money, it's just that i think the fans should stop buying these fights that are clearly not PPV worthy. buying it only encourages them to keep doing it. I know they won't miss a measly £20 because i think that way, but it's the principle. Don’t buy one bro, just stream it. It’s the only way to have your voice heard. If you do, buy Warrington-Frampton cause at the very least its top level boxing.