[New Interview] 12/15 - JOSHUA now Admits 50 Mil Offer was Real - Reveals New Issue

A lot of posters avoiding this thread.

The sheer blindness and stupidity of these nationalistic fans... They instantly go to battle for anything they think defends their countrymen, but they don't care what the actual story is. They'll simply change their defense to adapt to the facts. First, there was no money. Then, no intent. Then.... They just change their story constantly rather than actually trying to find any truth. And, I don't even care whether AJ took the offer or not. I fully believe he has conflicting obligations. I'm fine with that. Not with the idiotic fans that decide which guy they want to defend and then craft their belief system around it and abandon all interest in the truth.

For $50 million I’d fight wilder in the kitchen of his house if he wanted. That’s a lot of bread.

AJ gives a 25 minute long interview covering a wide range of issues, including what’s stopping the April 13th wilder Joshua fight from getting made, and all you guys want to throw mud about is a phrase in which he *may* have mentioned something that was never up for debate. Precisely why this forum and website is losing credibility fast. People are so ignorant they think clickbait one liners are finite. It's a shame really , it shows how poor the education system is around the world...saying that, the governments and those that own them don't want thinkers they want economic slaves, endoctrination not education...etc etc.

the AJ slurpers will still deny it. here you have the bodybuilder coward admit it himself. now watch the slurpers squirm.

I'll translate for those with comprehension issues The 50m would of required Joshua to break certain contracts so he would have to compensate the parties involved, he wouldnt of ended up with 50m he would of ended up with half...and he can make that fighting in the UK without souring relationships with his partners. So much like any knowledgeable boxing fan has said on the topic, the proposal was unacceptable.

The new issue with it is he's tied to others contracts. 2:58 Mark Are you purposefully lying or is English not your first language? AJ says, quite clearly (and quite diplomatically) that the money COULD have been there BUT it was not there at the time the fight was being spoken about. That means NO, it did not exist, regardless of the potential of it existing. On top of all that, Hearn, like him or not, flew to the US to negotiate contracts and it was Wilder and or his team, that refused to even meet. I mean, they did not even want to have a conversation, this is a matter of fact, not opinion. So please stop lying, it makes you look poor.

AJ gives a 25 minute long interview covering a wide range of issues, including what’s stopping the April 13th wilder Joshua fight from getting made, and all you guys want to throw mud about is a phrase in which he *may* have mentioned something that was never up for debate. Precisely why this forum and website is losing credibility fast.

Did Wilder's side actually ever send a contract for 50 million to Joshua or was this the offer that had to accepted within 24 hours with no meeting? it was 48 hours, not 24. and the "deadline" was identical to the deadline hearn gave in his initial 12.5 million offer. it's called gamesmanship. hearn's offer had a ridiculous deadline, so they copied and pasted his deadline into their counter offer to show him two can play that game. you dont send a contract until a term sheet has been accepted. AJ rejected 50 million, so a long form contract was never sent. hearn didnt send a contract for his 15 million offer until after wilder accepted the term sheet. that's how it works.

Correct kafkod. I'm not sure what people are hearing in this. He said they didn't see proof. He doesn't deny it might have been possible, but that it wouldn't have been possible in time. So he's saying that it wasn't there at that time. No money, no contract, no fight. I think what's happened here is that Joshua has given a diplomatic answer, and such diplomacy has gone right over the heads of people who can't understand anything more than a WWF style guy in sunglasses and a feathered robe screaming into a camera. There was an offer mooted. The devil is in the detail, of which no-one of us are privy to. They're hearing what they want to hear, I guess. Some people just don't have the ability to be objective.

you could gangrape their wives with wadded up hundred dollar bills on top of the rest of the money while they watched in the corner and they would deny the moneys existence all while enjoying the experience. Why don't try it and see how many of those imaginary wadded up hundred dollar bills you can get hold of?

Correct kafkod. I'm not sure what people are hearing in this. He said they didn't see proof. He doesn't deny it might have been possible, but that it wouldn't have been possible in time. So he's saying that it wasn't there at that time. No money, no contract, no fight. I think what's happened here is that Joshua has given a diplomatic answer, and such diplomacy has gone right over the heads of people who can't understand anything more than a WWF style guy in sunglasses and a feathered robe screaming into a camera. There was an offer mooted. The devil is in the detail, of which no-one of us are privy to.

the best part about wilders 50 mil that they DID HAVE was this AJs fanboys constantly said "wilder who fights for 2-3 mil a fight suddenly comes up with 50 mil???? ha yeahhhhh rightttttt"...and acted as if theres no way it could be real because of who wilder is completely ignoring the fact, or willing to accept it, that wilder is backed by esipinoza and haymon who have access to alot of money lol Not enough to win the purse bid for Wilder/Povetkin.

The new issue with it is he's tied to others contracts. 2:58 Mark Hearn said this on an IFL interview months ago. 50mil offer was there, but Joshua wanted to fight in the UK and he had TV obligations that meant he they couldn’t give up UK rights. The $50 million thing is so tiresome. It was just stupid for Hearn make it seem like it wasn't real, as once Joshua made the decision to want the fight in the UK, it become a moot point. Fans just ran away with it. Even Barry Hearn on numerous occasions said Joshua turned down more money for it to take place in the US so he can reward the UK fans. Which is fair btw if Joshua rather fight in the UK as he is the A-side. Just stop with the $50 million offer not being real. You will NEVER convince some AJ fans the 50M was real. you could gangrape their wives with wadded up hundred dollar bills on top of the rest of the money while they watched in the corner and they would deny the moneys existence all while enjoying the experience. Is there something wrong with your ears, or your brains? AJ does not say the money was there. In fact, at the 4 minute mark of that video he says the exact opposite .. that it wasn't there and wouldn't have been there in time to make the fight.

Bump. This needs to be stickied tbh

LOLOLOL damn you guys stay defending other men lol

the best part about wilders 50 mil that they DID HAVE was this AJs fanboys constantly said "wilder who fights for 2-3 mil a fight suddenly comes up with 50 mil???? ha yeahhhhh rightttttt"...and acted as if theres no way it could be real because of who wilder is completely ignoring the fact, or willing to accept it, that wilder is backed by esipinoza and haymon who have access to alot of money lol

Smug? What's more smug than believing lies even when the truth is staring you right in the face? Here, try this one for "smug". LMAO!!!!!! Hate to interrupt with actual facts, but: 1. Wilder did offer mutually acceptable security, which could include a guarantee. 2. Wilder did send a detailed term sheet & you acknowledged receipt.Both were in writing & easily verifiable. You didn't respond substantively to either. https://t.co/juMWJrHpPc— Stephen Espinoza (@StephenEspinoza) June 27, 2018 Lol Stephen Espinoza, the real arbiter of credibility right there. I think i'll just log off.

Don't patronize me you smug piece of ****. I just asked is if they sent him an actual contract. All I got from that video is that they sent an email saying that they would own the rights to Joshua for a certain amount of money, in a way which would violate his existing contracts. Smug? What's more smug than believing lies even when the truth is staring you right in the face? Here, try this one for "smug". LMAO!!!!!! Hate to interrupt with actual facts, but: 1. Wilder did offer mutually acceptable security, which could include a guarantee. 2. Wilder did send a detailed term sheet & you acknowledged receipt.Both were in writing & easily verifiable. You didn't respond substantively to either. https://t.co/juMWJrHpPc— Stephen Espinoza (@StephenEspinoza) June 27, 2018

You Just Saw AJ On Film Admit The 50M Was Real. But, you still have bullshyt questions? Unbelievable... Don't patronize me you smug piece of ****. I just asked is if they sent him an actual contract. All I got from that video is that they sent an email saying that they would own the rights to Joshua for a certain amount of money, in a way which would violate his existing contracts.