Why Y'all Trippin'?

"Wilder's a bum!" "Wilder's exposed" "Wilder can't fight" You're all entitled to your opinions, but there's one problem. If a "bum" knocked down Fury, then what does that make Fury? He had 12 whole rounds to work with and failed to significantly hurt this "bum," so he must be useless right? You can't have it only one way. When you degrade the ability of Wilder, you drag Fury down with him.

"Wilder's a bum!" "Wilder's exposed" "Wilder can't fight" You're all entitled to your opinions, but there's one problem. If a "bum" knocked down Fury, then what does that make Fury? He had 12 whole rounds to work with and failed to significantly hurt this "bum," so he must be useless right? You can't have it only one way. When you degrade the ability of Wilder, you drag Fury down with him.

Im cool with the decision. Its happened, i think its very wrong and there was 1 clear winner, the fight wasnt close enough to of gone either way. Its not going to change we should all move on from this now and accept it as a draw. But we can ofcourse keep looking at how poor a superior Boxer made Wilder look and how easy he was to land on and then look at the list of other superior Boxers waiting to have a go at him who also carry much more power than Fury, and then there is Fury himself who there was no doubt came into this bout still well under 100%, hes only going to get better. The draw might of "happened" so get over it but also the terrible Boxing by Wilder happened. People starting to wake up to the fact he is real messy and in big big trouble if he decides to hang around at the top.

Yet it is you who can't explain your own take or back up what you say. Again, if getting the crapped knocked out of you, then surviving the round landing pitty pat in single digits earns you the point back, you should be able to show it. You can't, because it doesn't. So act childish all you like, it won't change anything. You are on timeout til you come up with facts. YDKSAB, the end. How many more times will it take before it sinks in?

Ok, YDKSAB. Yet it is you who can't explain your own take or back up what you say. Again, if getting the crapped knocked out of you, then surviving the round landing pitty pat in single digits earns you the point back, you should be able to show it. You can't, because it doesn't. So act childish all you like, it won't change anything. You are on timeout til you come up with facts.

feel free to let me know when you actually have something ral to say. Ok, YDKSAB.

No it doesn't, you win the win that's it. YDKSAB. Wrong, you have a fantasy about sucking Wilders dick. YDKSAB. Obviously NOT. YDKSAB No, I don't work for you -- you work for me. YDKSAB. Yeah, I thought this is how you would react. You are in denial, you know that, right? Feel free to let me know when you actually have something ral to say. And again, if that bullcrap you are trying to float about 10-8 rounds being scored 10-9 is true, you'd have quite a few references where it happened. It's very rare. And it takes a round much, much better than any Fury had that night. But, you believe what you like. Seems to be the norm around here these days anyway, fanboy.

It takes an overwhelmingly one-sided round to get it scored 10-9 after you've been knocked down. No it doesn't, you win the win that's it. YDKSAB. Fury landed in single digits most rounds, and most rounds it was Wilder landing the harder shots Wrong, you have a fantasy about sucking Wilders dick. YDKSAB. Obviously, that happened in at least 5 of the rounds. Obviously NOT. YDKSAB Why don't you reference 5 or 6 big fights where a knockdown was scored, yet the round was judged 10-9? No, I don't work for you -- you work for me. YDKSAB.

Make no mistake, YDKSAB. Wilder lost almost every single round. He didn't win 5 rounds and if you want to argue, the 12th round could probably be viewed as a 10-9 round for Wilder. You need a knockdown and to win the round to get 10-8. I bet you probably didn't even know that did you? Like I said, YDKSAB. If you persist you'll end up on my ignore list which is the biggest on the site. See, that's how I know you are a fanboy and a casual. You're a parrot. You're regurgitating something you've heard because it fits those feelings you caught about the fight. Not a good look, son. It takes an overwhelmingly one-sided round to get it scored 10-9 after you've been knocked down. That's boxing 101, the 10-point must system for idiots: you knock a guy down, it's 10-8 unless you took a whipping pretty much every other second of the round. That isn't what happened in the 12th. What happened is we thought Deontay murdered Tyson for a second. Then we saw Wilder try to close the show for another segment of the round- Fury won none of those parts. Then, we did see Tyson rally back and score good punches, none of which had Deontay in any trouble. Wilder did cover up because he was gassed trying to finish Fury but didn't. Wilder didn't lose "every other second" of the round, far from it. The knockdown itself plus the attempt to finish-that segment which was more dominant than any other- was enough to win him the round. Hence, Wilder round 10-8. And as far as losing every round, that's more of your fanboy showing. Fury landed in single digits most rounds, and most rounds it was Wilder landing the harder shots- albeit even fewer total shots than Fury. Clean effective punching- what is the emphasis in this sport- means a few good punches can win a round over a larger volume of them if the larger volume are lighter shots. In other words, if you are only landing a few shots per pound and yours are by far the lighter punches, the guy landing the bigger ones can get the round EVEN IF HE LANDS LESS. Obviously, that happened in at least 5 of the rounds. Some folks thought it happened more often than that, some thought it happened less. I can have an intelligent conversation with anyone who had a score of 114-112 or anything in between for either guy. This is a concept you clearly don't understand which is why you think the fight was such a runaway, which it was not. Tell you what tho, since you are this scoring expert. Why don't you reference 5 or 6 big fights where a knockdown was scored, yet the round was judged 10-9? You are so sure that's how it goes, it shouldn't be a problem, should it? Schools out, kid. Might be a pop quiz later tho...

Someone needs his afternoon bottle and nap. Truth is, Fury was fortunate the ref didn't stop it. That's what usually happens when someone lies motionless for so long. I am truly glad the ref let it go. We got to see a classic. And hopefully, we will get to see it again. But, make no mistake, the draw was right. I saw a whole lot of idiots giving Fury rounds simply for surviving them and clowning a bit in the ring. Nice try, but in rounds where so few shots are landed, the hardest punches usually win the day. And most of those most of the time where thrown and landed by Wilder. Learn how to score a fight before you start throwing around insults, son. Make no mistake, YDKSAB. Wilder lost almost every single round. He didn't win 5 rounds and if you want to argue, the 12th round could probably be viewed as a 10-9 round for Wilder. You need a knockdown and to win the round to get 10-8. I bet you probably didn't even know that did you? Like I said, YDKSAB. If you persist you'll end up on my ignore list which is the biggest on the site.

Fùck you, YDKSAB. Stand up for the truth ONCE IN YOUR LIFE and put the pompoms down. Someone needs his afternoon bottle and nap. Truth is, Fury was fortunate the ref didn't stop it. That's what usually happens when someone lies motionless for so long. I am truly glad the ref let it go. We got to see a classic. And hopefully, we will get to see it again. But, make no mistake, the draw was right. I saw a whole lot of idiots giving Fury rounds simply for surviving them and clowning a bit in the ring. Nice try, but in rounds where so few shots are landed, the hardest punches usually win the day. And most of those most of the time where thrown and landed by Wilder. Learn how to score a fight before you start throwing around insults, son.

And this was a draw and rightfully so. Fùck you, YDKSAB. Stand up for the truth ONCE IN YOUR LIFE and put the pompoms down.

Because we like to see the winner win. And this was a draw and rightfully so.

Why else do we say we love this sport if not to see that? Because we like to see the winner win.

I thought it was a little bit of a black eye for the sport to be honest. Lots of interest and eyes on the fight from around the world. Big event, HW excitement, enjoyable tense fight, exciting 12th round. Things are going great but boxing then shoots itself in the foot with another poor scorecard. The big majority of the boxing world is bemoaning the result. The guy who won had it taken away from him and it was all so predictable. The reaction has been reminiscent to the first GGG/Canelo fight. Once the fight went the distance, everyone knew which guy wouldn't be getting the decision. Regardless of how the fight went. As Teddy Atlas said after the fight, people don't want to see a movie when they already know the ending. Big event, good fight, 2 good fighters. But when you've got scorecards already filled in before the first bell..what's the point. Except for the suits making money. It keeps happening and it's a turn off. The hardcore fans will stick around, it's all we know, but hopefully the casuals tire of it and put their wallets away. Things might change for the better then. I agree. Luckily the vast majority are saying it was a blatant robbery and that Fury won clearly and folks like OP are in a tiny minority. The way he tried to brush it as fans being "salty" and "bitter" is laughable and wreaks of desperation to justify a result he doesn't believe but can't bring himself to acceptance. To see someone adamant a fight was a draw in a world damn near everyone says was a blatant robbery is a clear sign. I agree with GGG-Canelo too which is one reason I had absolutely no interest in the re-match or any Canelo fight moving forward. I also predicted that if Fury had anything left he'd win the fight but not get the decision. It's sad when you have to take into account that the scores are already kind of decided and robberies are so commonplace.

Now, that's real talk. No one never been KO'd off of pitty pats. No slight to Fury, of course. But you had a lot of rounds awarded by fans for that pitty pat that perhaps should not have.

I thought it was a little bit of a black eye for the sport to be honest. Lots of interest and eyes on the fight from around the world. Big event, HW excitement, enjoyable tense fight, exciting 12th round. Things are going great but boxing then shoots itself in the foot with another poor scorecard. The big majority of the boxing world is bemoaning the result. The guy who won had it taken away from him and it was all so predictable. The reaction has been reminiscent to the first GGG/Canelo fight. Once the fight went the distance, everyone knew which guy wouldn't be getting the decision. Regardless of how the fight went. As Teddy Atlas said after the fight, people don't want to see a movie when they already know the ending. Big event, good fight, 2 good fighters. But when you've got scorecards already filled in before the first bell..what's the point. Except for the suits making money. It keeps happening and it's a turn off. The hardcore fans will stick around, it's all we know, but hopefully the casuals tire of it and put their wallets away. Things might change for the better then.

As has been mentioned by many people, one of the more insidious aspects of boxing is that over time, robberies and bad decisions tend to gain some sort of acceptance. Part of that is because of thoughts like, "This topic is getting repetitive, get over it already, at least we saw a good fight" etc... If you want to be honest about things, I would suggest you change the bolded section of your post to, "most folks wanna act like it was some gross robbery" ...there is a near-enough consensus amongst the boxing community that something pretty corrupt went down on Saturday night. Yes, we will move on, as we must, but twisting the narrative this early on, to say that fans crying 'robbery' are somehow bitter, or "salty", as you put it, is just disingenuous. Well said.

We all do it. We say "look at the polls, look at press row!" when it backs what we think. We say "screw press row, screw the polls!" when it don't. I personally am on record here in this forum blasting press row and not thinking much of most of their opinions, since most of them are as clueless as any fanboy. So, when you see me say "press row", you can bet I am trolling. I don't usually care about polls or the opinions of other unless I have good reason to. I trust my own eyes first. My own eyes tell me that 5 or 6 pitty-pat punches don't take a round from 2 or 3 hard ones. If someone thinks different, more power to them. Doesn't mean I will ever agree. And I certainly aint gonna trip on it either way. guys scoring on press row generally have the same view....from the the same perspective....and they arent sitting as close to the actions as the judges....3 judges...in 3 different points of view...sometimes with action wide open to them..somtimes they have a back blocking them i love how some of these guys take press row and fans takes as if they are doing the same work as a judge...like the judges are watching on a tv on their couch..or all 3 judges are all sitting on press row with the same angle

I had Wilder to win vs Fury. Instead, I saw a draw which was the right decision. Some of y'all think Fury won. Some say Wilder got that. But bottom line, we saw two warriors give everything they had, leave it all in the ring. Why else do we say we love this sport if not to see that? And yet, some folks wanna act like it was some gross robbery when each fighter is saying different. Both think they did enough to win but neither is tearing down the other, is actually quite complimentary of the other guy. They are showing class, humility, humor, and dignity. Everything you could want to show your kids to be like. And WE HAVE TWO OF THEM!!!!! But some of y'all still got salt. I just dunno man... I guess you've never competed in any competitive sport in your life where you gave everything you had just to get robbed of the opportunity eh? Both fighters are claiming they won, but only one guy is sure of himself, Fury, and the other guy has nothing but excuses. He broke his arm? His hand? His back? And then against ortiz. He claims he came in light because he was "sick". But yet he came into this fighter lighter? He claims he was at 50% and Fury was at 100%? That this was the best damn very if Fury ever. Wilder came into this fight at full power. Why the need to make excuses if you're confident you won? Wilders completion has gone up and it's not as easy as he thought it was. Fury took Wilders best shots and still got up. The dude freaken celebrated a draw for crying out loud.