PPV Numbers wilder/fury?

Did you say Haymon had to take care of another fee? :lol1: :lol1: I love how you attempt to shoot down every argument by bringing zero facts to the table. I’d bet you’re one of those BLM loving lefties. No wonder you had to accept that I’m the one ahead.

Espinoza said first round of numbers should be coming in end of today. I doubt SHO is going to announce it, but it will start getting leaked out. If it does really good numbers, they will give the official number in a few weeks.

Fury sold that fight and he is a great self promoter. I think it did about 400-500k. Hopefully the rematch will be in the UK. The question is if we only get the numbers from Showtime or if we get real numbers from an independant source. networks cant lie about numbers, promoters often do...

We're talking about purses/money here, aren't we? Stevenson's guaranteed purse was superior to most undercard purses combined. When a single undercard fighter has a bigger purse than a complete undercard, it's stacked as hell. Putting it in perspective vs Canelo/GGG: Jaime Munguia, $250,000; Brandon Cook, $30,000; David Lemieux, $200,000; Gary "Spike" O'Sullivan, $400,000; Roman Gonzalez, $200,000; Moises Fuentes, $35,000. Stevenson was paid more than all those guys put together. Hurd was paid around the same as all those guys put together. It's just funny hearing somebody call the undercard stacked now when before the fight, all I heard was people ****ting on it.

Exactly, Haymon had to take care of yet another fee for a single night of boxing. Maybe you thought that Showtime gave him a discount. ‘Tis all about that Christmas spirit after all. Did you say Haymon had to take care of another fee? :lol1: :lol1:

Yeah, he was part of the event...in Canada, for which there was a separate licensing fee. Hopefully, you understand the difference between licensing fees and the PPV model. Doesn’t seem like it. Stay in the shallow pool. Exactly, Haymon had to take care of yet another fee for a single night of boxing. Maybe you thought that Showtime gave him a discount. ‘Tis all about that Christmas spirit after all.

Publicly traded firm can’t lie that blatantly. They’ll just say nothing at lie. Speaking of shallow :lol1:

I just couldn't justify purchasing this PPV, because the undercard fights were all ****ing jokes. Sick of buying a PPV for just a main event, when 90% of the time it's nothing to be too hyped up on. I'm going to guess they claim 400-500k, but the real number is around 250-350k. Publicly traded firm can’t lie that blatantly. They’ll just say nothing at lie.

Fury sold that fight and he is a great self promoter. I think it did about 400-500k. Hopefully the rematch will be in the UK. The question is if we only get the numbers from Showtime or if we get real numbers from an independant source.

I just couldn't justify purchasing this PPV, because the undercard fights were all ****ing jokes. Sick of buying a PPV for just a main event, when 90% of the time it's nothing to be too hyped up on. I'm going to guess they claim 400-500k, but the real number is around 250-350k.

What's optimistic? Even PPV bombs like Ward-Kovalev and GGG-Lemieux did like 150K. This was way bigger than those where you couldn't find a bar in major cities even showing the fights. This felt 500kish, just judging by experience with UFC PPVs. That would be a major success on a first PPV for either guy..

Are you suggesting that Stevenson was a freebie that the good folks at Showtime gave the promoter? He wasn’t part of the PPV portion of the event, but he was part of the event. The network and cable companies still get paid for airing his fight. Chill and stay away from the caps, it’s just the internet. Not everybody can be ahead. Yeah, he was part of the event...in Canada, for which there was a separate licensing fee. Hopefully, you understand the difference between licensing fees and the PPV model. Doesn’t seem like it. Stay in the shallow pool.

Dude out here pitching old models like a washed up closer. Then have the nerve to include Stevenson. It's ALWAYS the clueless ones. Are you suggesting that Stevenson was a freebie that the good folks at Showtime gave the promoter? He wasn’t part of the PPV portion of the event, but he was part of the event. The network and cable companies still get paid for airing his fight. Chill and stay away from the caps, it’s just the internet. Not everybody can be ahead.

Nice dated info. There is more leverage then you think with getting more of the PPV cut. And its also worth noting that because Fox & Showtime both have their own streaming platforms & their PPV's are being sold on said platforms there is gonna be a certain % of PPV's bought through those platforms that don't gotta give a cut to a middleman cuz they our their own middleman basically. Nice dated info > no info. I’m aware of everything you posted and agree with it. However, streaming services belong to the networks, which still get their slice of the pie. It won’t be as big, but it’ll always be big enough. We don’t have those numbers anyway, so it is mere conjecture ATM.

I'm betting it did very well in the UK. Seems like everyone managed to watch it somehow

How am I ****ting on it? It was a great fight. Nice job putting words on my mouth. My bad for putting words ON your mouth bro .

300K at minimum and 600k at the highest imo. I hope it did well though.

The fight had a ton of buzz in the days leading up to the fight. I hope that translated to PPV buys but these days fans are cheap. I only bought it because my brother went in and gave me $40 bucks towards it as the PPV cost $86 here including taxes. It was very pricey, should've been 50 bucks. I hope it did big numbers too but I think people are being way too optimistic here.

LMFAO. Good catch. I missed that. Dude out here pitching old models like a washed up closer. Then have the nerve to include Stevenson. It's ALWAYS the clueless ones.

I hope it did big numbers but I'd honestly be surprised if it even cracked 250k. The fight had a ton of buzz in the days leading up to the fight. I hope that translated to PPV buys but these days fans are cheap. I only bought it because my brother went in and gave me $40 bucks towards it as the PPV cost $86 here including taxes.