Did Team Wilder shoot themselves in the foot for AJ negotiatons, robbing Fury?

There is little chance now that Eddie Hearn will want AJ-Wilder in the US. (...) ... they never wanted it in the U.S. ... and now less than before... Both Wilder and AJ stock took a huge hit. Wilder is now damaged goods to AJ and AJ ain't coming to America to be robbed. AJ also looks like a damn fool too because he was too afraid to take a fight that Fury took and dominated despite not being his best. Pretty interesting when AJ is supposed to be the best. If Wilder/AJ happens I would bet money Wilder by KO. Joshua is not slick enough to avoid those right hands and if he could hit Fury, hes 100% gonna hit Joshua sooner than later. As we've seen before Joshua has suspect defense and the most suspect gas tank. ... ... I lost money on Saturday -- I had Wilder by KO!... :) I think Wilder's performance makes him more marketable than ever. It's fireworks. He's not a good boxer but he can take out anyone at anytime. That's good drama, it sells. Wilder will be in demand. This era is money first and everything else a distant second. ... ... Wilder is "marketable" vs AJ and Fury only!... that means he's in the same position as before...

There is little chance now that Eddie Hearn will want AJ-Wilder in the US. That was the mother of all screwjobs. The only thing is, AJ/Hearn may be thinking they won't need to rely on the judges. But definately, corrupt officiating is a big turn off now for any big non-US fighters. On balance it was worth the reputational damage to retain the belt and the '0' unbeaten stat, each of which are of value in promoting subsequent fights. No one who follows boxing closely will have been surprised given previous cards for Wilders fights. Whilst a lot of casual fans won't realise just how dodgy the decision was once the next fight promotion begins. There is also a damage limitation process underway with questions about the ten count or focussing on the KO to distract attention from the champion being soundly outboxed on home turf.

Fury did. FM said 5-0, 4-1 Fury if we're being generous to Wilder. Wilder didn't land a single meaningful punch.

Americans really cant say anything about bad decisions anywhere else. it doesn't get any worse than here, I mean its expected now.

So much about getting robbed when the ref gave him plenty of time twice when he got knocked down. If it was the UK they would had stopped it for less if it was Wilder.

I think Wilder's performance makes him more marketable than ever. It's fireworks. He's not a good boxer but he can take out anyone at anytime. That's good drama, it sells. Wilder will be in demand. This era is money first and everything else a distant second. It's just like Canelo, they want that fight. It sort of kinda bothers them that they're going to get robbed, but they want the fight, they'll take the cash.

:burnout: How else can we explain that Mexican judge? Well, he's either on the take, or so incompetent and doesn't know a thing about boxing and should be nowhere near boxing. I know some people are bad judges, but i don't believe anyone that has judged so many fights can be THAT clueless. Are you honestly trying to argue that Fury, or Wilder for that matter, definitively won the first 4 rounds?

The Mexican judge lives and is on the Cali books. He also robbed Herrera of a win against Garcia. Obviously in Haymons pocket. ^^^lol, look at this guy.

Not sure it matters. AJ has made it clear he won't fight in USA. He has said they have worked too hard to build boxing in the UK to then take the biggest fights to USA. If that's what he truly thinks then he won't be leaving the UK for any mega fight.

:burnout:How did Wilder's team rob Fury? How else can we explain that Mexican judge? Well, he's either on the take, or so incompetent and doesn't know a thing about boxing and should be nowhere near boxing. I know some people are bad judges, but i don't believe anyone that has judged so many fights can be THAT clueless.

Szpilka, Washington, Ortiz, Fury. The judges can be somewhat kind to Wilder when he fights on home turf. That's got to be off putting for a potential opponent.

Not a robbery to be honest.

There is little chance now that Eddie Hearn will want AJ-Wilder in the US. That was the mother of all screwjobs. The only thing is, AJ/Hearn may be thinking they won't need to rely on the judges. But definately, corrupt officiating is a big turn off now for any big non-US fighters. None of the judges were American and Jack Reiss, the best ref in California and arguably one of the best refs in the country, gave Tyson Fury every chance (and then some) to continue on. With the first 4 rounds being tossups, the score were basically reasonable.

Fury won't fight wilder in the states again Most likely Fury fights Joshua in April i'm pretty sure that'll happen Fury Wilder 2 in april is possible in the uk, but they wont go over there to get robbed again when there's a joshua fight there to be made and the entire uk is calling for it. I highly doubt they won't take a fight stateside, especially if they get big money for it. Warren said he wants it in the UK but then later said where ever it makes the most sense. He is no fool. He knows there is a good chance the rematch does PPV numbers. Getting that BIG US PPV money will be enough for him to take the fight in say Vegas. Besides, he mentioned the WBC should order the rematch basically alluding to their side not having a rematch clause. Shane Fury said pretty much the same thing. So essentially Wilder will be giving them a rematch. You really think Fury will say well if the fight doesn't happen in the UK, then I won't be fighting you and I'd rather just move on? No way, don't kid yourself here.

bad scoring keep up didnt realize team wilder scored the fight

Yep, in more ways than one. Fury wont wanna rematch there, Joshua wont go there, even Golovkin looking on probably thinking "**** that I aint going to PBC now to get robbed" GGG would be the A side in damn near every PBC fight he would be in. This ain't it................... And no, Wilder's team definitely didn't shoot themselves in the foot. In fact, they now have another big money option. The Fury rematch could do MASSIVE numbers. While Fury may not prefer it being in the states, I don't think he would be opposed to a Vegas showdown if he could make over $30 million for the fight. First it was always who can Wilder fight??? He has no options blah blah. Well, now he has another option where he can arguably make more money than he will make for the Joshua showdown since he will have the US PPV money against Fury and the split will be much better than the one for the Joshua fight. If anything, you can say Hearn overplayed his hand. Now he may not be able to get the Wilder or Fury showdown until 2020. Because say those two rematch in May, they will then have to fight Breazeale later in the year or get stripped, and I doubt they want that to happen. And if the second fight has high drama again and is exciting? Who is to say we don't get a trilogy in 2020? This is why I think Hearn goes hard after the Wilder fight NOW and gives in to some of his demands.

There was more money involved with AJ vs Wilder, Fury vs Aj would be big in the UK. This "draw" would only help AJ being way more of the A side. but i doubt AJ would be quick to take that wilder fight if he finished Fury early.

There was no chance Hearn and Joshua wanted in the US and A anyway. This hasnt opened anybodys eyes on the subject of corruption and cheating in America, we already knew about it, we saw the Ortiz fight, we saw the Canelo GGG fights and weve seen many other fights were they took siding with the home fighter to a whole new level compared to fighting in any other country. Saying that, Wilders demanding a 2 way rematch clause so if the fight was to happen and AJ won then they would end up in America anyway. Not that it matters that isnt a fight that would go 12 rounds one way or the other. And Hearn, the horrible man who keeps ducking Wilder according to some, will be, if he hasnt already, be sending yet another contract for Wilder to face Joshua and it contains that 2 way split.

How did Wilder's team rob Fury? bad scoring keep up

How did Wilder's team rob Fury? C'mon Larry. That wasn't incompetence that caused those scorecards.