That’s what made it a draw. Wilder won at least 2 of the first 4 for sure. I don’t know how anyone can give Fury the first 2 rounds after rewatching them. People just seem to forget that though due to Fury dominating the middle part of the fight.
It’s just I see some outrageous scorecards on here though possibly being swayed by the Showtime commentary. No way did Wilder only win 2 or 3 rounds overall. He won at least 4 & at best 5.
That's what I've been saying. He' won at least 4 and at the most 5. Giving Fury 10 rounds sounds like someone either doesn't know how to score rounds or didn't even watch the fight.
white brits are glass chins and sore losers
Not only are you a bell end you have put that video as proof white Brits have glass chins? A video of Tyson Fury who got up and carried on schooling Wilder. Never seen any black men getting up from a Wilder bomb.
Deontay talks about his peoples oppression for 400 years, well the white man certainly helped Wilder out there by paying off the judges from a blatant schooling by a real Boxer. Wilder doesnt like the white man but without the whiteman protecting Wilder from real fighters Deontay would be nowhere. He is a fraud.
Rounds 1 & 2 definitely. Round 1 because he was more active & landed a bit more overall. Fury only landed a few jabs & a good shot in the end. He only threw like 2 punches in the first minute. Second round I felt Wilder blocked most of what Fury was throwing while Wilder landed more overall. 3rd & 4th rounds were toss ups but lean towards Fury taking both or at least 1 of them.
I re-watched the 1st round. Here are the shots that I could make out.
Round 1
Wilder:
-Straight right hand (body shot)
-Long left hook (head shot, barely landed)
-Short left hook (head shot) while clinching
-Stiff jab (head shot)
-Sweeping left hook (head shot)
Fury:
-3 jabs (head shots)
-Right hook (body shot)
-2 jabs (head shots)
-Straight right hand (head shot) that seems to have bothered Wilder
-1 jab (head shot) at the end of the round
You don't need to dominate to win the rounds. You just need to win it and edge your opponent on punch connects whether it's one punch or more. And it clearly was Fury's, he landed more and he landed the cleaner punches in those rounds. It's that obvious. Every heavy weight punch is significant since even a jab has sting on them. That's the reason we love heavy weights, every punch counts. They can have less punch outputs compared to lower weights, but their punches pack a lot of venom. And Fury landed it nicely on those rounds.
Fury didn't dominate those early rounds. They were close rounds with very few punches thrown or landed. Fury may have landed a punch or two more but that could be offset by Wilder being the attacker and throwing more punches and landing harder punches when he did land. Judges are no longer allowed to score rounds even. Many of those early rounds were close with few punches thrown or landed and could reasonably have gone to either man.
I gave Wilder the 2nd round out of the first 4. What rounds did you give him in the first 4 and why?
Rounds 1 & 2 definitely. Round 1 because he was more active & landed a bit more overall. Fury only landed a few jabs & a good shot in the end. He only threw like 2 punches in the first minute. Second round I felt Wilder blocked most of what Fury was throwing while Wilder landed more overall. 3rd & 4th rounds were toss ups but lean towards Fury taking both or at least 1 of them.
That’s what made it a draw. Wilder won at least 2 of the first 4 for sure. I don’t know how anyone can give Fury the first 2 rounds after rewatching them. People just seem to forget that though due to Fury dominating the middle part of the fight.
I gave Wilder the 2nd round out of the first 4. What rounds did you give him in the first 4 and why?
white brits are glass chins and sore losers
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It's not just one man's opinion
One *boxers* opinion. Does that make it better. I could also just change it to boxing insider or boxing legend, whatever you want. It's still just one opinion.
There're tons of ex-fighters who give their own take on each fight, many of them great. I respect their opinions but its not gospel.
If Floyd really shows a bias usually then maybe it means something, I don't usually pay attention to how he in particular scores the fight.
I dont see what this really does. It's just one mans opinion that you're assuming should be biased in Wilder's favor. Foreman had Wilder winning, this doesn't say much either. Different people look at different things when scoring a fight. Maybe clearing up the standards would tighten up scoring a bit.
I had it 114-112 Fury myself but I can really see the other side.
Haha, are you daft?
It's not just one man's opinion – that would be asking you about the fight.
In the first 4 rounds, which round(s) did you give Wilder other than round 2?
Then maybe we can have an actual discussion.
3 & 4 were pretty close but Fury probably won one of them or maybe both. They were difficult rounds to score where neither really clearly won them.
I dont see what this really does. It's just one mans opinion that you're assuming should be biased in Wilder's favor. Foreman had Wilder winning, this doesn't say much either. Different people look at different things when scoring a fight. Maybe clearing up the standards would tighten up scoring a bit.
I had it 114-112 Fury myself but I can really see the other side.
Considering Mayweather always gives his peoples the edge that means EVERYTHING.
According to Compubox-> Rounds 1,2,4,5,6,7,8,11 had punch differences of only 2 or less landed. Definitely flawed of course (I wouldn't want this scored like amateur boxing) but it shows how much wiggle room there is in scoring the bout. Fury was more efficient and technically sound but not everyone values these things in the same way.
I gave 2 and 4 to Wilder plus the knockdowns. Legitimate case can be made for 1 and 5 as well.
I had it 7-5 but Wilder definitely didn’t do enough to win. It was either a Fury win or a draw. But I just disagree on those early rounds. Wilder was blocking most of the shots Fury was throwing in round 2.
Wilder doesn't have a very good guard when he goes defensive, he stands square with his gloves up and take his eyes of the target and I felt because of that some of Fury's shots were getting through
As long as fans keep defending these kinds of decisions, boxing will continue to be a joke. Stop trying to justify the draw.
It’s just I see some outrageous scorecards on here though possibly being swayed by the Showtime commentary. No way did Wilder only win 2 or 3 rounds overall. He won at least 4 & at best 5.
Even Mayweather had Fury 5-0 up.
I dont see what this really does. It's just one mans opinion that you're assuming should be biased in Wilder's favor. Foreman had Wilder winning, this doesn't say much either. Different people look at different things when scoring a fight. Maybe clearing up the standards would tighten up scoring a bit.
I had it 114-112 Fury myself but I can really see the other side.
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