So Arum offered D Garcia 3 mill for a Crawford fight in March..

Garcia is not a draw, at least not a 2x more draw than Vargas. He does well at Barclay's but outside of that, he still hasn't produced a payday beyond $2M. His stock would have gone up considerably from the Pac fight, especially if he pulled off a victory. Pacquiao-Danny would've been picked up by HBO and MGM Resorts; Pacquiao-Vargas was picked up by neither. Unless you're simply fighting without any real opportunities, you don't short yourself for anything. Even Manny Pacquiao. If Tim Bradley got an alleged $10m to fight Pacquiao, that was the price for Danny Garcia to fight Pacquiao.

& you believe him farthead

Collazo is with Haymon so they are working together. Collazo is expendable. He's only there to be a name against the top roster or for the quick buck for his team like in this case. Haymon would not usually put one of his top fighters against a favorite, its better for him to keep his top fighters in-house unless they have a good chance at winning.

Dude stop it. Garcia ain't coming close to 3 million fighting Granados. You living in fantasy land or what? The Danny Garcia Show is headlining the April primetime date on FOX (Unsure of how the money has been allocated, but PBC did just get $60m a year for the next 4 years to deliver 10 FOX cards and 12 FS1 cards per year), Danny Garcia is a strong ticket seller in the LA market that will host the fight (did, I believe, over 12000 for the Guerrero fight), and the general PBC event experience comes with sponsor money and international TV interest (TSN in Canada, Telivisa in Mexico, Fox Sports for the rest of Latin America, BoxNation/BT Sport in the UK, etc). All money in, it wouldn't shock me too much to find out that Danny's pot ends up $5m+. Pay the promoters who did the day-to-day work to stage the fight, pay Haymon his fee, and pay any other party after the event, and Garcia is likely looking at an easy $2m-$3m for himself. $2m from FOX for the US TV rights, let's even put the number as low as $1m for the TV rights to Canada/Mexico/Latin America, let's call it a net $1m on the live event (tickets/sponsors/merch less rent/marketing/staging expenses), who knows how much from BoxNation/BT Sport for the UK TV rights, etc.

see perfect example here.... broner has value?? TR wasnt willing to pay him?? has broner ever headline a ppv yet??? lmao! $3mil was more than what broner was getting at that time! matter fact, i dont even think broner has made more than $3mil in one fight yet. Pacquiao/Top Rank shorted the offer to Broner, and ended up maybe selling 300000 PPVs fighting Jessie Vargas (Even if you take Arum as speaking the truth, which he hardly does, that's $10m in total take on the US PPV) and doing maybe $5m at the live gate (folks have not said much about the actual numbers, which of usually bad news). If Pacquiao made $15m off the fight, I'd be shocked. Pacquiao-Broner, back then, would've at least easily doubled the pot generated for Pacquiao-Vargas. Fair value above everything

Wilder was offered $15 mil and he declined, not to mention 3 title shots. D Garcia got far better resume than Deontay's, yet $3 mil is already a lot of money. I mean the difference in resume and popularity is not even close. See how greedy Wilder is? $15 mil and he said no. $15m to travel to the UK, when you reasonably know that the exact same fight in your own home market is worth at least $70m? lol. Fair value is still fair value; if the numbers don't make sense, the fight doesn't make sense. 60/40 Joshua was fair value for Joshua-Wilder in this past Fall (65/35 Joshua on the specifics, with a ~5% bump for passing on the money in Las Vegas to travel). As a cash offer, based on what Hearn has stated the fight was worth, that'd put the flat fee at $18m. With the Fall date falling through, the price on the fair deal has gone up. Danny Garcia is likely already on a pay package of $2m+ for having his own fights. There's a value to crossing over and giving Terence Crawford his first top-shelf opponent that's well beyond the extra million that Top Rank tried to get around Garcia's management to offer, lol.

$4m to deliver MGM Resorts and a formal US PPV effort for Manny Pacquiao was a low-ball offer, and was perfectly within reason to walk away from. Pacquiao-Vargas, the fight that Pacquiao took instead, maybe cleared $20m at the end of the day. Pacquiao-Garcia or Pacquiao-Broner (with the formal media push from HBO, MGM, and the national/international media) would've comfortably cleared $40m at the end of the day. With no offer for a share on that extra $20m, the fight didn't make sense. Garcia is not a draw, at least not a 2x more draw than Vargas. He does well at Barclay's but outside of that, he still hasn't produced a payday beyond $2M. His stock would have gone up considerably from the Pac fight, especially if he pulled off a victory.

Don't know for sure, but Danny Garcia seems to be fighting for similar money doing things on his own terms and taking the fights he wants. Making basically the same money that you get on your own, to not only now work for someone, but to have that person dictate how your work is supposed to go, doesn't quite square. Danny Garcia, after not getting the decision in a close fight with Shawn Porter, is headlining a show on primetime FOX in April, on a DSG Promotions card, against a solid rugged guy in Adrian Granados, for a pay package that likely matches the Top Rank offer (talk of PPV upside for a Crawford fight is laughable at this point). Dude stop it. Garcia ain't coming close to 3 million fighting Granados. You living in fantasy land or what?

see perfect example here.... broner has value?? TR wasnt willing to pay him?? has broner ever headline a ppv yet??? lmao! $3mil was more than what broner was getting at that time! matter fact, i dont even think broner has made more than $3mil in one fight yet. I'd argue that Broner has more value than any of their welterweights right now. At least people tune in to see him fight. Mostly to see him lose but at least he brings eyeballs to the screen. Dude got like a million viewers on showtime when these other cats cant get 600-700k

Garcia once turned down $4M to fight Pac, so I'm not surprised. $4m to deliver MGM Resorts and a formal US PPV effort for Manny Pacquiao was a low-ball offer, and was perfectly within reason to walk away from. Pacquiao-Vargas, the fight that Pacquiao took instead, maybe cleared $20m at the end of the day. Pacquiao-Garcia or Pacquiao-Broner (with the formal media push from HBO, MGM, and the national/international media) would've comfortably cleared $40m at the end of the day. With no offer for a share on that extra $20m, the fight didn't make sense.

Would you have called it a lowball if it wasn't for PPV? Don't know for sure, but Danny Garcia seems to be fighting for similar money doing things on his own terms and taking the fights he wants. Making basically the same money that you get on your own, to not only now work for someone, but to have that person dictate how your work is supposed to go, doesn't quite square. Danny Garcia, after not getting the decision in a close fight with Shawn Porter, is headlining a show on primetime FOX in April, on a DSG Promotions card, against a solid rugged guy in Adrian Granados, for a pay package that likely matches the Top Rank offer (talk of PPV upside for a Crawford fight is laughable at this point).

Broner would've been the only reason that the talked of Pacquiao fight then would've been PPV in the US or drawn interest from MGM Resorts, lol. Top Rank-produced fight with Vargas (that Top Rank took a bath on), Australia for Jeff Horn on ESPN, and then some random fight in Malaysia against Matthysse. Broner had a clear value, that Top Rank was unwilling to pay, and they and Pacquiao got ****ed for it with three dud fights, lol. Terence Crawford is stuck on ESPN, with his $3.5m bag, and the way Top Rank does business, likely the rest of his prime, on the outside looking in. see perfect example here.... broner has value?? TR wasnt willing to pay him?? has broner ever headline a ppv yet??? lmao! $3mil was more than what broner was getting at that time! matter fact, i dont even think broner has made more than $3mil in one fight yet.

Well I have no clue what Crawford was gonna get. That's his contracted purse per fight, I'm not sure Garcia has that same kind of deal with Haymon. Any clue how much Garcis made vs Porter and Thurman? I'd have to guess around 2 million each fight most likely I believe the disclosed number was $2m for each fight, but DSG Promotions was also on the marquee, so who knows what the full package was.

Wilder was offered $15 mil and he declined, not to mention 3 title shots. D Garcia got far better resume than Deontay's, yet $3 mil is already a lot of money. I mean the difference in resume and popularity is not even close. See how greedy Wilder is? $15 mil and he said no.

around the same purse arum offer to broner a few years ago to fight pac and broner backed out yet posters on here aka floyd fans was siding with broner saying he deserves more and that arum prolly didnt even offer him that much but now with crawford and danny, they are putting the blame on danny to make crawford look good lol. Broner would've been the only reason that the talked of Pacquiao fight then would've been PPV in the US or drawn interest from MGM Resorts, lol. Top Rank-produced fight with Vargas (that Top Rank took a bath on), Australia for Jeff Horn on ESPN, and then some random fight in Malaysia against Matthysse. Broner had a clear value, that Top Rank was unwilling to pay, and they and Pacquiao got ****ed for it with three dud fights, lol. Terence Crawford is stuck on ESPN, with his $3.5m bag, and the way Top Rank does business, likely the rest of his prime, on the outside looking in.

I'd turn 4 Mill down too. Didn't Tim Bradley get close to 10? Pac was still at his peak as a PPV draw when he fought Bradley. Garcia's highest pay day is $2M to fight Thurman. Oddly enough Arum reached out to Danny early 2016. Then, in late 2016 Danny calls out Pac saying he wants to fight him. Now he'll be fighting Granados in April, likely for less than the Thurman fight.

Garcia once turned down $4M to fight Pac, so I'm not surprised. I'd turn 4 Mill down too. Didn't Tim Bradley get close to 10?

Just read coppinger on twitter say this. He said Angel never got back to TR on the offer and Arum eould be interested in following up on it after their fights in spring.. Espn PPV it would have been. Instead they're both fighting b level guys go figure..... BOXING Danny Garcia runs his own show, with Haymon and his father looking after him. DSG Promotions presents the Granados fight on FOX in April, another fight for Fall 2019 (if things fall the way I think, we end up with Thurman-Pacquiao and Spence-Porter/Ugas as the title fights; Omar Figueroa Jr is coming back in February and would be a great marketable option, tbh) for FOX or Showtime, and then another big fight for early 2020 (my expectation is that the WBC/WBA/IBF 147lb unification will be in the works by then, so Danny Garcia will likely be in position to be the first defense of the unified champion; basically the top of the champs who got knocked off). $3m (with Crawford on at least $3.5m to fight, and Crawford's own business in it's own right not being enough to cover his guarantee, talk of PPV upside is foolish) to simply show up, sit, and have everything dictated to him by Top Rank isn't all that great a deal when you've seen the pieces of an event and have an eye on the plan for you.

Garcia once turned down $4M to fight Pac, so I'm not surprised.

I have a feeling it was more on Garcia’s end for not wanting to take the risk after losing his last 2 out of 3 fights. Garcia always goes the low risk/high reward route unless he’s backed into a corner & has no choice but to take a tough fight. He’ll never willingly take a tough fight because he wants to but only because he has to. perfectly said cuz it's so true. Crawford vs Danny Garcia needs to happen btw.