Crawford is signed to Top Rank but lets be realistic what is he going to do without Haymon fighters? Absolutely nothing, there are no top rated welters with Arum's company. I find it hard to understand why a fighter claiming to be the best would even resign with Arum knowing this. Even the average fan can see there are no real challenges in the Top Rank stable.
The same thing will ultimately happen to Lomachenko, that Top Rank stable is getting real thin for him too. Even Manny Pacquiao, at this late stage of his career, has woken up and joined a stable that will not only test him but make him good money in his final boxing years.
The main thing about Crawford is how you going to walk up on Spence, get your fan base nuts all in a bunch then sign to fight Collazo? Collazo is like a level below tune-up and in my opinion Crawford has already had multiple tune ups in Horn and Benavidez, tune ups for a guy rated among the best boxing.
Every upcoming PBC fight in my opinion is better than this:
Pac - Broner - cool
Spence - Garcia - cool (mismatch but its Mikey fault)
Porter - Ugas - cool
Thurman - Lopez - cool
I dont have an issue with any of these match-ups, all these fighters are in a place where those fights make sense for them. I fail to see what sense Crawford - Collazo makes. The only relevance to this fight is that Collazo is a PBC fighter, however he is a PBC fighter who is way down the list, bordering on irrelevant. Crawford in my opinion needs to demand a better opponent from Arum than Collazo unless Crawford is more than happy to keep accepting these easy fights. If this is the best Arum can do then Haymon clearly controls Crawford's future!
I honestly don't get how people have this guy ranked #1 p4p when his best win is an undersized Yuriorkis Gamboa at Lightweight four years ago.
Gamboa was not just his best win it was also his best fight! I think Bud simply passes the eye test for many fans, for whatever reason they barely recognize his quality of opposition. I think it could be cause he is Top Rank, that stable always seems to get a pass, if he was PBC fans would do nothing but scrutinize his competition.
Happenstance! It just so happens that most of the Top Fighters at 147 are with PBC but lets be honest when Crawford moved up Pacquiao was still with Top Rank, he moves up and now Pacquiao is not on PBC Side :dunno: it has nothing to do with Control IMO it just so happen to play out this way
Yes the big fights with Crawford are over on that side and yeah they will have to play ball for Crawford to get big fights. No problem with Crawford taking the Guaranteed money with Top Rank BUT it could be a deal he regrets 2-3 years from now when he sees other guys making way more because they don't have a promote to limit their earning potential
My question is why is Bud picking and choosing from the lower tier Haymon stable?I honestly don't get how people have this guy ranked #1 p4p when his best win is an undersized Yuriorkis Gamboa at Lightweight four years ago.
Understood . But the question was if you Honestly think Thurman / Lopez is a Better fight than Crawford / Collazo ?
Considering the circumstances yeah, one fight makes sense the other doesn't...Collazo doesn't have anything in the tank, I doubt he go 3 rounds
Thurman returning from injury and hasn't fought in a year. This fight is clearly advertised as a tune up. PBC not trying to pull the wool over anyone's eyes with this match up.
Understood . But the question was if you Honestly think Thurman / Lopez is a Better fight than Crawford / Collazo ?
how many belts does spence have? yet everyone wants to see spence/Crawford and most consider spence no less than the #2 man in the division
golovkin collecting belts in a trash MW division means jack **** in reality....charlo can just sit at pbc and fight bums and claim hes ducked...but I suspect if charlo did that we find plenty of objection to calling him a p4p top 5 guy if we tried now wouldn't we? lolol
Pathetic...Charlo won't be getting belts like this man. Don't know how you can support behavior like that. Golovkin fought a lot of good fighters
lol...no he didn't....he fought guys like curt stevens(who lost to legit d level club fighters), dom wade, willie Monroe and lemiuex who got embarrassed by saunders(made to look amateurish)...he fought gabe rosados.....he fought kell brook.....
collecting belts is overrated....wilder don't have but 1 belt and everyone wants to see him fight aj and considers wilder no less than #2 in the division
charlo can go the lil g route and fight bum after bum with network backing and claim to be ducked and he will be lauded as a p4p great.....its that easy
Pathetic...Charlo won't be getting belts like this man. Don't know how you can support behavior like that. Golovkin fought a lot of good fighters
According to your logic Charlo must be a dumbass as well since all the Middleweight fighters are over at DAZN
charlo can go the lil g route and fight bum after bum with network backing and claim to be ducked and he will be lauded as a p4p great.....its that easy
Felix Diaz, John Molina, now Luis Collazo.
Lol. "#1 p4p guys...he's the best!"
(All Haymon guys btw)
My question is why is Bud picking and choosing from the lower tier Haymon stable?
ive always maintained, that when people say theres no fights left for certain "star caliber" fighters, that ones will eventually pop and present themselves......so I will never rule that out with Crawford...but its not looking good for him if hes stuck doing stuff with TR in house
You honestly think Thurman / Lopez is a Better fight than Crawford / Collazo ?
Thurman returning from injury and hasn't fought in a year. This fight is clearly advertised as a tune up. PBC not trying to pull the wool over anyone's eyes with this match up.
Crawford is signed to Top Rank but lets be realistic what is he going to do without Haymon fighters? Absolutely nothing, there are no top rated welters with Arum's company. I find it hard to understand why a fighter claiming to be the best would even resign with Arum knowing this. Even the average fan can see there are no real challenges in the Top Rank stable.
The same thing will ultimately happen to Lomachenko, that Top Rank stable is getting real thin for him too. Even Manny Pacquiao, at this late stage of his career, has woken up and joined a stable that will not only test him but make him good money in his final boxing years.
The main thing about Crawford is how you going to walk up on Spence, get your fan base nuts all in a bunch then sign to fight Collazo? Collazo is like a level below tune-up and in my opinion Crawford has already had multiple tune ups in Horn and Benavidez, tune ups for a guy rated among the best boxing.
Every upcoming PBC fight in my opinion is better than this:
Pac - Broner - cool
Spence - Garcia - cool (mismatch but its Mikey fault)
Porter - Ugas - cool
Thurman - Lopez - cool
I dont have an issue with any of these match-ups, all these fighters are in a place where those fights make sense for them. I fail to see what sense Crawford - Collazo makes. The only relevance to this fight is that Collazo is a PBC fighter, however he is a PBC fighter who is way down the list, bordering on irrelevant. Crawford in my opinion needs to demand a better opponent from Arum than Collazo unless Crawford is more than happy to keep accepting these easy fights. If this is the best Arum can do then Haymon clearly controls Crawford's future!
You honestly think Thurman / Lopez is a Better fight than Crawford / Collazo ?
lmfao that fool blocked me, I corrected him on some "real estate" **** he swears he does and we got into it on the comments, I ended up embrassing his ass showing he doesnt know **** he deleted that comment and blocked me lmfao, clown.
Lmao I just found his page like 3 days ago and yea he’s pretty much a clown. Most of those YouTube boxing channels are clowns. All of them think they’re gods gift to boxing
And this is why i say it's stupid for Haymon to do a joint PPV with Spence-Crawford when he can do Spence/Garcia/Thurman/Pacquiao/Broner/Porter.
I'm not saying they shouldn't fight. I'm saying there's no need from a business standpoint for Fox/Showtime to split money with ESPN when they have all the leverage
It is also wrong for Fans to excuse it. Spence vs Crawford is a fight fans want more than any other fight. We as fans should not give a flying fvcc about their business model.