The only person who has gone 12 rounds with Wilder was Bermane Stiverne, and Wilder won by UD. Johann Duhaupas was stopped in the 11th. Luis Ortiz was stopped in the 10th.
If Fury isn’t stopped, does Wilder win a decision?
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The one outcome no one saw coming.
As soon as the fight ended, I thought Fury had made the greatest comeback in the history of boxing. But I was worried there would be a terrible decision. At least they didn’t give Wilder the win, but Fury wasn’t even in prime shape and Wilder still couldn’t get him out of there.
Silly thread.
Of course Wilder can win a decision over Fury. Likelihood is he won't deserve to win the decision if it does go that far but let's face it an American Heavyweight Champion isn't losing to a disgraced former champion on the cards in the US of A.
If Fury turns up anything like the old Fury then Wilder wins by decision. If Fury like the Seferi Fury turns up then Wilder wins by knockout.
I can't see Wilder outboxing Fury over 12 rounds. But that doesn't mean Fury will be up on the scorecards after 12 rounds.
We saw what happened during the Washington and Ortiz fights where the general consensus was Wilder was being out boxed but he was ahead vs Ortiz and ahead on 1 and drawn on 2 of the Washington score cards.
Suffice to say the track record suggests there will be favouritism towards Wilder. Fury will need to win at least 8 rounds or more to win a decision, maybe more, most people gave 9 rounds to Lewis over Holyfield in their first fight and that was still scored a draw.
I hope I'm wrong and we see a fair fight but this is boxing and unless you're new to the sport you know better.
Wasn't Wilder ahead in the Ortiz fight? I know he score a knockdown before the 9th round but i didn't think he did enough at that point to be ahead of Ortiz. And with the Joshua payday in around the HW i don't think Fury would get that decision.
The fight's in America. I don't see that the judges will be a problem. I think Fury could make Wilder look pretty bad at times but who knows until they fight?
I guess it's either marketing hype or wishful thinking, but people seem to think this is 2016, right after the Wlad fight, and forget how Fury looked on his last one. I actually didn't watch it until last week and was shocked at how slow Fury's reflexes have become.
It's really hard to say how Fury is going to be on fight night. He might shock up with his skill but could just as easily) like he did a couple months ago.
Unless he really really outbox Wilder then i don't see how he could get a UD, let me put it this way if he fought the exact way that he did in germany against Wlad then he isn't going to get a decision. They would either score it a draw or give it to Wilder.
The major difference is in those two scenarios are both Canelo and Mayweather were the A sides in those bouts and now so is Deontay Wilder. He is fighting on his home soil. Had GGG/Canelo I would have occurred on Golovkin's home soil of Kazakhstan, he would have easily won that fight on all three of the judges scorecards.
Deontay is like barely the A side. He might be on American soil but he won't outbox Fury who is most likely 100% gonna want to go 12 rounds.
He didnt look good against ortiz who is more technical than him until his KO. Fury is taller and is just as if not more technical than ortiz. Hes a long counterpuncher who is gonna sit on the outside using movement.
If wilder did happen by decision I would be amazed but pretty damn skeptical especially if Fury looks in form.
But well see. Imo it's either wilder by KO or Fury by UD. There are no other choices.
Wilder isn't that good a boxer. He has been behind on points before when he scored a KO. Fury is a better boxer than Wilder and if Wilder doesn't win by KO then I think Fury wins by UD.
Fury’s keys to victory are his height and reach advantage, which Wilder has never faced before. If Fury can keep distance for 12 rounds he has a shot at a decision win, but I think Fury is going to get rocked hard in this fight.
Wilder isn't that good a boxer. He has been behind on points before when he scored a KO. Fury is a better boxer than Wilder and if Wilder doesn't win by KO then I think Fury wins by UD.
I would definitely like to respectfully disagree with this.
The narrative matters now apparently in boxing more than ever and if Wilder cant hit Fury hes gonna lose. Especially with no KDs.
Check out recent example of GGGvsCanelo 1 and 2.
Oh. GGG is a ko machine. Always coming forward blah blah blah, narrative. But then when he decides to fight off his back foot, its automatically running, and he automatically lost. It's not showing skill, its losing.
And that's despite the fact that Canelo LITERALLY ran around the ring the first fight and GGG was a far more effective aggressor.
And then see the best example of this in Mayweather.
100% you can run a marathon, tag your opponent with a few punches and win.
If Fury doesnt get KOed or KD multiple times, no chance in hell wilder wins.
The major difference is in those two scenarios are both Canelo and Mayweather were the A sides in those bouts and now so is Deontay Wilder. He is fighting on his home soil. Had GGG/Canelo I would have occurred on Golovkin's home soil of Kazakhstan, he would have easily won that fight on all three of the judges scorecards.
It all depends if Fury decides if he wants to fight or not. You are not going to take a champion's title away by running out the clock each round, without engaging and not getting hit like he did against Wladimir Klitschko. Tyson is going to have to take some risks in order to win this fight.
If Wilder is the one do the engaging by being the aggressor and coming forward while fighting off the front foot and all Fury is doing is moving around the ring fighting off the back foot and throwing only light arm punches to avoid getting hit; Then yeah Wilder will win on the scorecards.
I would definitely like to respectfully disagree with this.
The narrative matters now apparently in boxing more than ever and if Wilder cant hit Fury hes gonna lose. Especially with no KDs.
Check out recent example of GGGvsCanelo 1 and 2.
Oh. GGG is a ko machine. Always coming forward blah blah blah, narrative. But then when he decides to fight off his back foot, its automatically running, and he automatically lost. It's not showing skill, its losing.
And that's despite the fact that Canelo LITERALLY ran around the ring the first fight and GGG was a far more effective aggressor.
And then see the best example of this in Mayweather.
100% you can run a marathon, tag your opponent with a few punches and win.
If Fury doesnt get KOed or KD multiple times, no chance in hell wilder wins.
Yes, he can win a decision. I think Wilder ko's him within 5 but I actually think the fight going into the later rounds could benefit Wilder. He is the more athletic guy with better stamina who always keeps himself in shape as opposed to Fury who has spent the last few years fluctuating massively in weight and abusing his body with junk food and drugs. If it does go 12 then Fury will be gassed by the end of it.
It all depends if Fury decides if he wants to fight or not. You are not going to take a champion's title away by running out the clock each round, without engaging and not getting hit like he did against Wladimir Klitschko. Tyson is going to have to take some risks in order to win this fight.
If Wilder is the one do the engaging by being the aggressor and coming forward while fighting off the front foot and all Fury is doing is moving around the ring fighting off the back foot and throwing only light arm punches to avoid getting hit; Then yeah Wilder will win on the scorecards.
It all depends if Fury decides if he wants to fight or not. You are not going to take a champion's title away from by running out the clock each round without engaging and not getting hit like he did against Klitschko. He is going to have to take some risks in order to win.
If Wilder is the one do the engaging by being the aggressor and coming forward by fight off the front foot and all Fury is doing is moving around the ring fighting off the back foot and throwing only light arm punches to avoid getting hit; Then yeah Wilder will win on the scorecards.