Jaime Munguia has 1 fight left with Golden Boy

What the hell are you talking about now? What does the extension of Canelo and Crawford have to do with extensions off competing for titles or winning a title? Haymon deals are not necessarily the same as promotional deals. Did Crawford and Canelo sign for multiple years instead of fights? Sure, but that doesn't mean all promotional deals work that way. Plenty go off set amount of fights. So when you say Munguia's deal was extended by two years after winning the title, you have no idea if that is true or not. You don't know how much the deal was extended by or if it is off "x" amount of fights or multiple years. Haymon contracts could also be extended if the fighter is one of the top earners in their weight class. So yeah, his contracts aren't the same as promotional contracts.haymons contracts are the same as top rank and golden boy. They almost always are for extra years. Haymon never guarantees x amount fights per year. That’s why guys like tank Davis are only fighting once this year. Canelo and crawford signed the same type of extension that haymons gives out. Munguia is locked in at least another 3 years get over it. Stop deflecting. U started this convo saying Munguia shouldn’t agree to go to espn when the kid has no choice. I have educated yourself. Now take what U have learned and grow from it. Munguia has no choice. U can say Zanfer didn’t make the best decision But u and I don’t have all the intimate details. If we did maybe it makes sense. You trying to put Munguia in your agenda to defend Charlo to stay at pbc where he fights Heiland centeno and Monroe is your agenda. Not mine or any other real fans.

again u leave out facts. Canelo signed a 4 year extension. Crawford a 2 year extension. Those ARE the same as Haymon. How many Zanfer guys do u see leave in their 20s? NONE. Munguia is locked in. Nice try though. What the hell are you talking about now? What does the extension of Canelo and Crawford have to do with extensions off competing for titles or winning a title? Haymon deals are not necessarily the same as promotional deals. Did Crawford and Canelo sign for multiple years instead of fights? Sure, but that doesn't mean all promotional deals work that way. Plenty go off set amount of fights. So when you say Munguia's deal was extended by two years after winning the title, you have no idea if that is true or not. You don't know how much the deal was extended by or if it is off "x" amount of fights or multiple years. Haymon contracts could also be extended if the fighter is one of the top earners in their weight class. So yeah, his contracts aren't the same as promotional contracts.

Um what? 168 isn't deep correct, but ESPN doesn't have many options for Zurdo stop kidding yourself. They need someone like Uzcategui and that is why they were after Benavidez and thought they had him signed at one point. I know what it states on Haymon's contracts as everyone does who read Hauser's article on him. I also said his advisory contracts aren't necessarily the same as promotional contracts. Haymon operates in years while there are plenty of promotional contracts that go off of set amount of fights. When Hearn is offering Broner a contract, he is offering him a three fight deal opposed to Haymon who would be offering him a five year term. So no, promotional and Haymon advisory contracts are not the same.again u leave out facts. Canelo signed a 4 year extension. Crawford a 2 year extension. Those ARE the same as Haymon. How many Zanfer guys do u see leave in their 20s? NONE. Munguia is locked in. Nice try though.

they have as much a 168 as anyone. No one is deep there lmao. DAZN has nothing but callum Smith. Pbc has the washed Dirrell Bros and washed degale and boring af plant. Espn has Zurdo and hart and McCumby. So don’t act like it’s a stacked division somewhere else. U don’t know much about Haymon evidently. WBC WBA IBA has stated several times thet haymon contracts have a two year extension after I win your first title. That’s standard just like Zanfer top rank Gbp etc. Nobody forced me into saying crawford should sign with anyone. My original thread said “all of those that criticized Crawford for resigning with top rank need to diss Charlo for not going to DAZN”. That’s a fact. Now u try to bring up munguia but your ignorance to the business of boxing shines through because u still can’t comprehend that Munguia has zero say in what network he fights on. Just like Dominic Breazeale didn’t get to pick that his next fight is on fox. Um what? 168 isn't deep correct, but ESPN doesn't have many options for Zurdo stop kidding yourself. They need someone like Uzcategui and that is why they were after Benavidez and thought they had him signed at one point. I know what it states on Haymon's contracts as everyone does who read Hauser's article on him. I also said his advisory contracts aren't necessarily the same as promotional contracts. Haymon operates in years while there are plenty of promotional contracts that go off of set amount of fights. When Hearn is offering Broner a contract, he is offering him a three fight deal opposed to Haymon who would be offering him a five year term. So no, promotional and Haymon advisory contracts are not the same.

No, I'm the one that said you were doing the same as those that criticize Crawford but give Charlo a pass for not signing with DAZN. You were forced to give in and say Crawford made a mistake re-upping with Haymon has advisory contracts, which aren't necessarily the same as promotional contracts. A contract doesn't need to just be extended by year (s), could be extended by fights. You don't know how much Munguia's contract was extended once he became champion. And here is the thing, Zanfer isn't exclusive to any network. He could absolutely have Munguia fight on DAZN and take the others to ESPN. You keep acting like ESPN has this deep stable which they do not. They lack in weight classes like 168 where Uzcategui would be so important to have. They are not going to not take him or Nery or Berchelt just because Munguia is signed elsewhere. Munguia needs to tell Zanfer to keep him with GBP/DAZN where he has endless options at 160.they have as much a 168 as anyone. No one is deep there lmao. DAZN has nothing but callum Smith. Pbc has the washed Dirrell Bros and washed degale and boring af plant. Espn has Zurdo and hart and McCumby. So don’t act like it’s a stacked division somewhere else. U don’t know much about Haymon evidently. WBC WBA IBA has stated several times thet haymon contracts have a two year extension after I win your first title. That’s standard just like Zanfer top rank Gbp etc. Nobody forced me into saying crawford should sign with anyone. My original thread said “all of those that criticized Crawford for resigning with top rank need to diss Charlo for not going to DAZN”. That’s a fact. Now u try to bring up munguia but your ignorance to the business of boxing shines through because u still can’t comprehend that Munguia has zero say in what network he fights on. Just like Dominic Breazeale didn’t get to pick that his next fight is on fox.

u stay twisting the truth. When I said said Charlo needs to sign with DAZN I specifically mentioned Crawford. Saying those that criticized Crawford have to criticize Charlo. It was the whole premise for the post so now u are a flat out liar. Zanfer isn’t a new promoter. They for sure had a 2 year extension and maybe longer in mexico even. You act like Zanfer isn’t a profesional company that knows what they are doing. Haymon has the same extension in his contract to trap his clients as well it’s done by all promoters and defacto promoters. Of course espn is going to want Munguia as part of the deal but again Munguia doesnt have a choice where Charlo does. You failed miserably trying to fit this to your agenda. Munguia can’t fight on DAZN after zanfer signs him to espn and top rank just like leo santa Cruz can’t fight on espn tomorrow unless his master allows him to.... No, I'm the one that said you were doing the same as those that criticize Crawford but give Charlo a pass for not signing with DAZN. You were forced to give in and say Crawford made a mistake re-upping with Haymon has advisory contracts, which aren't necessarily the same as promotional contracts. A contract doesn't need to just be extended by year (s), could be extended by fights. You don't know how much Munguia's contract was extended once he became champion. And here is the thing, Zanfer isn't exclusive to any network. He could absolutely have Munguia fight on DAZN and take the others to ESPN. You keep acting like ESPN has this deep stable which they do not. They lack in weight classes like 168 where Uzcategui would be so important to have. They are not going to not take him or Nery or Berchelt just because Munguia is signed elsewhere. Munguia needs to tell Zanfer to keep him with GBP/DAZN where he has endless options at 160.

Nope, you were the one that came at Charlo and never mentioned Crawford signing with the PBC until I brought it up. You were forced to agree he should have, if people would say the same about Charlo to DAZN. Not every contract is extended by two years if they win the title. Now you are making things up. Can it be extended that much? Sure, but it could be extended for "X" number of fights or a year (s). You don't know what was extended from his deal or not. But yeah, I'm sure Munguia coming to ESPN is the difference between Zanfer getting 10-12 dates to barely any right?u stay twisting the truth. When I said said Charlo needs to sign with DAZN I specifically mentioned Crawford. Saying those that criticized Crawford have to criticize Charlo. It was the whole premise for the post so now u are a flat out liar. Zanfer isn’t a new promoter. They for sure had a 2 year extension and maybe longer in mexico even. You act like Zanfer isn’t a profesional company that knows what they are doing. Haymon has the same extension in his contract to trap his clients as well it’s done by all promoters and defacto promoters. Of course espn is going to want Munguia as part of the deal but again Munguia doesnt have a choice where Charlo does. You failed miserably trying to fit this to your agenda. Munguia can’t fight on DAZN after zanfer signs him to espn and top rank just like leo santa Cruz can’t fight on espn tomorrow unless his master allows him to....

now your being a moron or lack comprehension skills. His contract would extend by TWO years but it wasn’t about to expire. So you know he has 3-4 years and possibly more. Stop being stupid. And u are the one who started this convo by saying I should criticize Munguia for going to to ESPN instead of DAZN when Munguia didn’t decide anything and had no say. You tried to fit a square peg in a round hole to fit your agenda which makes u look ignorant to the boxing business. Charlo can sign with DAZN tomorrow if he wants to. Munguia can’t. End of story. Period. Point. Blank. Nope, you were the one that came at Charlo and never mentioned Crawford signing with the PBC until I brought it up. You were forced to agree he should have, if people would say the same about Charlo to DAZN. Not every contract is extended by two years if they win the title. Now you are making things up. Can it be extended that much? Sure, but it could be extended for "X" number of fights or a year (s). You don't know what was extended from his deal or not. But yeah, I'm sure Munguia coming to ESPN is the difference between Zanfer getting 10-12 dates to barely any right?

If GGG signs with ESPN? Sure, but has yet? So TR is going to give Zanfer 10-12 dates? Doubtful. But say Munguia isn't included are they going to not do business with them? Oh, see he has 4 years left now? His contract was extended by four years once he became champion? You got a source for that? Are fights added on your contract when you become a champion or fight for a title on most contracts? Sure, but don't say he has four years left when you don't know that.now your being a moron or lack comprehension skills. His contract would extend by TWO years but it wasn’t about to expire. So you know he has 3-4 years and possibly more. Stop being stupid. And u are the one who started this convo by saying I should criticize Munguia for going to to ESPN instead of DAZN when Munguia didn’t decide anything and had no say. You tried to fit a square peg in a round hole to fit your agenda which makes u look ignorant to the boxing business. Charlo can sign with DAZN tomorrow if he wants to. Munguia can’t. End of story. Period. Point. Blank.

DAZN now has every middleweight champ under their control. Munguia is too damn big won't last much longer at 154. And if he does haymon has all the top guys. DAZN has more options at 154, 160 then top rank and ESPN have. What point is having dates if you have no one to fight you end up like Gilberto ramirez who arum has been trying unsuccessful to make a people give a damn about. A big reason why is he is not fighting top guys. Getting the right fights matter he won't get those on ESPN

His team was gonna sell him to Golovkin for a quick buck before he could get his career started. These people are not looking out for his best interests. Nah. Young Mexican cat from Tijuana just like Morales and Margarito. That's a kid you build into a star. He has skills and heart and he's young. Cha...ching.

Really surprising. I would at least try to go after Lemieux fight if the Canelo fight is a bit far away. Unless GGG has an offer for ESPN.

ESPN is better. DAZN is a bunch of bum fights. Jacobs reportedly going back to PBC. Canelo moving to 168. Lemiux would be an interesting fight. Im down to watch that. That's a gimmie for him. I just dont see what Bob can offer. Fight on ESPN and face who though?

Not sure how the Bob father can entice Munguia but he must have an ace up his sleeve otherwise it doesn't make any sense. I'm sure Bob is up to something, he must have some sort of plan worked out to Munguia even thinking Top rank.

again GGG goes to ESPN that changes a lot... U aren’t understanding how boxing works. Munguia has 2-4 or more years left in his deal. He can say he won’t resign but it means nothing. Zanfer can TRY to do what u say but top rank can say I got 10-12 dates a year for your tv fighters and ESPN+ dates for your other guys when they fight out of Mexico IF u include Munguia. Munguia has no say here. Again Charlo can go sign a short term deal with DAZN. Sign a 18 month 4 fight deal. If GGG signs with ESPN? Sure, but has yet? So TR is going to give Zanfer 10-12 dates? Doubtful. But say Munguia isn't included are they going to not do business with them? Oh, see he has 4 years left now? His contract was extended by four years once he became champion? You got a source for that? Are fights added on your contract when you become a champion or fight for a title on most contracts? Sure, but don't say he has four years left when you don't know that.

No, I was using YOUR logic to make this comparison. And you said I don't know what ESPN is being offered or what kind of contract he has, but do you know what kind of deal he has? The Crawford example is a bad one. Top Rank has an exclusive deal with ESPN. Zanfer can do business with other platforms. They can take Munguia to DAZN, Nery/Uzcategui/Berchelt to ESPN. Will Top Rank want Munguia? Sure, but will they then not decide to give Zanfer dates because he is with DAZN? Highly doubtful as the other three are damn good and it gives them a lot of options. Who is Zurdo going to fight? He needs Uzcategui on ESPN badly. Berchelt is needed on ESPN badly. This isn't a case where Top Rank has a deep stable to fill all those dates where Zanfer is at their mercy. That's simply not the case here. Again, Munguia can go where ever he wants. His career. I don't fault fighters for the decisions they make. I wasn't one of the guys attacking Crawford or Charlo. However..........again GGG goes to ESPN that changes a lot... U aren’t understanding how boxing works. Munguia has 2-4 or more years left in his deal. He can say he won’t resign but it means nothing. Zanfer can TRY to do what u say but top rank can say I got 10-12 dates a year for your tv fighters and ESPN+ dates for your other guys when they fight out of Mexico IF u include Munguia. Munguia has no say here. Again Charlo can go sign a short term deal with DAZN. Sign a 18 month 4 fight deal.

u definitely don’t know the business. A standard boxing contract has a 2 year extension out in effect if a world title is won. We don’t know how long he has left on his contract but would likely be 2-4 years. Zanfer may also have a right of first refusal. And u don’t know what is being offered to him to fight on espn. Why doesn’t Crawford tel Top Rank to get a deal for him are showtime? ESPN would never go for that. They want the whole TR stable and especially Crawford and Loma. Now if Your TR u absolutely make sure u get Munguia as part of the deal. And what you aren’t looking at is Zanfers point of view. ESPN is the best place for them. They have to look at their whole roster. Who does Berchelt fight at DAZN? He already beat Bandido Vargas. So what there is Tevin farmer Ricky burns and Ryan Garcia in a couple years? ESPN has Loma, Beltran, Pedraza, Pitufo Diaz, Nic Walters, Jason Sosa, the WBO 130 champ Ito, Vences, Saul Rodriguez etc. Uzcategui has Zurdo, Hart, Gvozdyk and McCumby etc Nery has dogboe, Servania, Magdaleno, Marriaga, Valdez, etc Matchroom and DAZN are thin at those weights. So zanfer has to make the best business decision for themselves. Not for just one fighter. Just like Haymon isn’t pushing for Charlo to go to DAZN because it’s better business for him to keep Charlo on pbc cards even though it’s a disservice to Charlo. So using your logic for Munguia, Charlo should tell Haymon he is going to DAZN and if Haymon doesn’t like it he won’t resign with him when his contract is up. No, I was using YOUR logic to make this comparison. And you said I don't know what ESPN is being offered or what kind of contract he has, but do you know what kind of deal he has? The Crawford example is a bad one. Top Rank has an exclusive deal with ESPN. Zanfer can do business with other platforms. They can take Munguia to DAZN, Nery/Uzcategui/Berchelt to ESPN. Will Top Rank want Munguia? Sure, but will they then not decide to give Zanfer dates because he is with DAZN? Highly doubtful as the other three are damn good and it gives them a lot of options. Who is Zurdo going to fight? He needs Uzcategui on ESPN badly. Berchelt is needed on ESPN badly. This isn't a case where Top Rank has a deep stable to fill all those dates where Zanfer is at their mercy. That's simply not the case here. Again, Munguia can go where ever he wants. His career. I don't fault fighters for the decisions they make. I wasn't one of the guys attacking Crawford or Charlo. However..........

Lol, I know exactly how negotiations work. But Munguia needs to look out for HIMSELF over Zanfer. If he told Zanfer he prefers to stay and they still take him to TR? Then fine, just tell them he will leave once he becomes a FA. Top Rank doesn't have the stable to fulfill the dates, Zanfer and everyone knows that. They would still get dates with or without Munguia.u definitely don’t know the business. A standard boxing contract has a 2 year extension out in effect if a world title is won. We don’t know how long he has left on his contract but would likely be 2-4 years. Zanfer may also have a right of first refusal. And u don’t know what is being offered to him to fight on espn. Why doesn’t Crawford tel Top Rank to get a deal for him are showtime? ESPN would never go for that. They want the whole TR stable and especially Crawford and Loma. Now if Your TR u absolutely make sure u get Munguia as part of the deal. And what you aren’t looking at is Zanfers point of view. ESPN is the best place for them. They have to look at their whole roster. Who does Berchelt fight at DAZN? He already beat Bandido Vargas. So what there is Tevin farmer Ricky burns and Ryan Garcia in a couple years? ESPN has Loma, Beltran, Pedraza, Pitufo Diaz, Nic Walters, Jason Sosa, the WBO 130 champ Ito, Vences, Saul Rodriguez etc. Uzcategui has Zurdo, Hart, Gvozdyk and McCumby etc Nery has dogboe, Servania, Magdaleno, Marriaga, Valdez, etc Matchroom and DAZN are thin at those weights. So zanfer has to make the best business decision for themselves. Not for just one fighter. Just like Haymon isn’t pushing for Charlo to go to DAZN because it’s better business for him to keep Charlo on pbc cards even though it’s a disservice to Charlo. So using your logic for Munguia, Charlo should tell Haymon he is going to DAZN and if Haymon doesn’t like it he won’t resign with him when his contract is up.

u don’t seem to get the business of boxing. How do u know he hasn’t already asked that? If you are top rank u say I need all your champions and top prospects to guarantee u x amount of dates. I need Berchelt Munguia Nery and uzcategui. That’s the negotiation. Zanfer could counter and say ok effort we need an exception for a potential canelo fight. GGG could end up with ESPN too so thats one potential opponent. And u don’t think Loeffler would tell Top Rank if I bring GGG u gotta take all my super flyweights and Ryan Martin? See how it works? At the end of the day Munguia doesn’t have a choice. What if Top Rank says it’s all or nothing? Top Rank has the dates. Not Zanfer. Munguia can ask but he doesn’t have any say. Charlo has a choice. Crawford HAD a choice. Lol, I know exactly how negotiations work. But Munguia needs to look out for HIMSELF over Zanfer. If he told Zanfer he prefers to stay and they still take him to TR? Then fine, just tell them he will leave once he becomes a FA. Top Rank doesn't have the stable to fulfill the dates, Zanfer and everyone knows that. They would still get dates with or without Munguia.

Oscar better figure that sh^t out. That'd be a hit to the GBP roster. Seems like he'd wanna go with PBC more than DAZN or ESPN doe. PBC is loaded with 154 guys. True... but Munguia is a big boi! He’s gonna be knocking on the door at 160 quick, IMO. That 160 is Clenelo or free agent(soon to be DAZN) Golovkin for some serious cheddar.