We're not going to see this fight in April for two reasons and both of them are because of Wilder!
1 they don't even want to start negotiating for the biggest unification fight in a very long time!.. No one is asking for contracts to be signed before Dec 1st but that are refusing to even start talks to make the fight.. Does that sound like someone who claims they "REALLY" want the fight?! Wake up fools.
2 Wilder has categorically priced him self out. 2 weeks ago he said he will not entertain a fight unless its 50/50 and felt he deserved more than 50%.. We could have forgiven him for making such a stupid remark as I thought he was just trying to negotiate a better split.
But NO he is really that deluded! Yesterday he again said he deserved 60% but is willing to give AJ 50% to give the fans the fight! He's so deluded, even tho he's not even a quarter of the draw AJ is he's speaking as if he is the A side who desides all the terms.
Even the Wilder nut huggers know AJ will be the one calling the shots. But we won't get this fight as Wilder said if Hearn doesn't send a contract that says 50% then the fight won't happen! He said he a man of his word and he promises that he won't accept anything less than 50%.. And we all know he's never gonna a contract for 50% cus the bum basher has done nothing to deserve it. He has officially priced himself out. So I don't wana hear anything about how AJ or Hearn are ducking.. Funny how the LDBC haven't covered this.
Surely they have an idea of how the fight will do?
They're expecting between 300k and 400k buys, but it's very tough to predict because neither fighter has been on PPV before.
I thought Haymon was supposed to be a genius businessman, who can guarantee $50m paydays and has put on the biggest fights in the world? And you're telling me he has no idea how much Wilder will generate in his next fight?
So Hearn is just going to take Haymon's word for it and agree to a split for AJ/Wilder that is based on Wilder's PPV being a success before anybody knows if Wilder can live up to Showtime's expectations?
What is there to talk about? Until you agree on money, there's very little to discuss. How can they agree on money without knowing how well Wilder's PPV does?
Whether Wilder sells 200k PPV, 600k PPV, or somewhere in between, totally changes his value.
Surely they have an idea of how the fight will do?
Fighters don't get minimum guarantees if there aren't ballpark projections.
Or are you admitting Wilder is taking a huge gamble?
I thought Haymon was supposed to be a genius businessman, who can guarantee $50m paydays and has put on the biggest fights in the world? And you're telling me he has no idea how much Wilder will generate in his next fight?
No one is asking for contracts to be signed before Dec 1st but that are refusing to even start talks to make the fight
What is there to talk about? Until you agree on money, there's very little to discuss. How can they agree on money without knowing how well Wilder's PPV does?
Whether Wilder sells 200k PPV, 600k PPV, or somewhere in between, totally changes his value.
So when he makes 20 million off this fight, what will the excuses be for not making the fight. I just want to se the damn fight **** all this splits and money bull****.
Maybe wilder thinks the hospital bill will be expensive when Josh puts him in hospital to recover from the beating Josh will likely give him because of Josh superior boxing ability.
There's no other explanation for wilder adamant behaviour of deserving more money.
Heaven forbid hopefully wilder will be safe after the fight though.
The thing is if he is so confident in winning why does money matter?
Fight the guy, beat the guy, then you can ask for more than 50-50 in the rematch.
I just don't think he wants the fight in all honesty. I don't think Hearn wants the fight either.
But if you have the chance to become the first undisputed heavy weight from the US in a very long time, take it.
However if his first go on ppv does well ie 1m+ then he deserves more than was offered to him. If it bombs and does under 300k then he will have to accept he isn't getting anywhere near 50% and to ask for it is crazy.
Of course he could actually lose his title before then anyway. If that happens his whole reputation will be destroyed.
I just have a feeling this whole saga will no longer matter after the 1st.
Joshua & hearn should just f@ck this idiot off....has no grasp of reality and has over inflated opinion of how well known he is.
Aboslute bum and when the embarrassing numbers come in for his fight with fury then we will see how much he values himself.
Wilder is bad for boxing
Like lewis said if both want that fight then it would happen. Just by looking at both fighters resume am more incline to believe that Team Wilder didn’t want the fight, a lot of opinions have now change in that regards. But let’s wait after December 1st and hope no injuries or anything like that.
Eddie Hearn needs to stop calling Deontay, begging through the medvia ; tha champ will let Hearn and the weightlifter know when hes ready to give GayJ his opportunity.
We got bigger fish to fry.
Hes probably blown the biggest pay day of hes career because of cheerleaders telling him to wait for more money. Fury makes him look stupid and he'll get peanuts in hes next fight. Theres no bigger fish than the biggest earner by far in the division..
Who cares? Joshua had his chance to nip this in the bud but fumbled over his own demand and dropped the ball the big time after turning down his own monetary stance!
Joshua keeps saying that there is more than enough money in the pot for everyone but keeps scoffing at Wilder’s asking percentages even when Wilder was willing to go to the UK for a flat fee!
How anyone can’t see that Wilder is banking on himself to beat the undefeated lineal heavyweight champ, the man that beat the man FIRST in order to leverage himself in negotiations is a fool!
Clearly Hearns, doesn’t want that which is why he wants to make the talks now!
After Fury if Wilder wins, you AJ fan boys need to drop the percentage bîtching! He would be within his right to get not only a percentage and not a flat fee like Hearns was doing but at 35% or more, nothing less!
AJ made himself look like a stone cold diva and did and said some things that no other heavyweight champion in history has done, let alone a champion!
Never forget: Gimmie 50 million and I swear I’ll sign tomorrow!
If y’all want the fight so bad then why don’t the fans train and fight Wilder themselves!
I’ll knock Wilder spark out, won’t need judges but I’m willing to take less and not go to America cuz the judges aren’t fair!
Shall I go on?
You must be punch drunk
There was no 50m, it was all an act. Aj and his team asked for a contract to see what devil is in the detail which wilders team failed to provide. All they did was go on social media and say you must accept and then you will get everything, the dumbest sht I have ever heard, accepting before reading a contract
There was no 50m and also I bet it wouldn’t be in the uk which they all first agreed too
Wilder also never responded for 2 months and had a contract which he did not sign because of no fixed date despite Hearn telling them it’s in November as they responded out of the blue and he now has to arrange a date
Then team wilder agree a fight with fury with no date lol after you all were crying like btches for ages saying nobody signs to fight without a fixed date proving wilder simply ducked Joshua
Team wilder also ask for a serious offer weeks ago, get one and then state they have no desire to talk about the fight
Wilder and his team are using aj to build his name and have no desire to fight the true champion of the division
You wilder fans are deluded, go buy him a pen to sign next time
I was on Wilders side but he has been saying increasingly retarded ****. Him and his team are acting like goofs with no logic while Eddie Hearn is at least making sense.
Also, Deontay bringing up the race card saying he has been through **** because of the color of his skin and is persecuted is lame as ****.
If this keeps up I might actually end up rooting for AJ to knock him out. I'm not quite there yet though.
Who cares? Joshua had his chance to nip this in the bud but fumbled over his own demand and dropped the ball the big time after turning down his own monetary stance!
Joshua keeps saying that there is more than enough money in the pot for everyone but keeps scoffing at Wilder’s asking percentages even when Wilder was willing to go to the UK for a flat fee!
How anyone can’t see that Wilder is banking on himself to beat the undefeated lineal heavyweight champ, the man that beat the man FIRST in order to leverage himself in negotiations is a fool!
Clearly Hearns, doesn’t want that which is why he wants to make the talks now!
After Fury if Wilder wins, you AJ fan boys need to drop the percentage bîtching! He would be within his right to get not only a percentage and not a flat fee like Hearns was doing but at 35% or more, nothing less!
AJ made himself look like a stone cold diva and did and said some things that no other heavyweight champion in history has done, let alone a champion!
Never forget: Gimmie 50 million and I swear I’ll sign tomorrow!
If y’all want the fight so bad then why don’t the fans train and fight Wilder themselves!
I’ll knock Wilder spark out, won’t need judges but I’m willing to take less and not go to America cuz the judges aren’t fair!
Shall I go on?
Even if wilder KO fury in 1st round, hez not getting more than 30/35% to be honest with you....
Let's not act like wilder has sold 500+ in ppv. This is his first try and he will be assured of 200k cos fury is involved.
To Be THE MAN you got to beat THE MAN! Deontay 'Bronze-Bomber' Wilder will become THE LINEAL HW CHAMPION OF THE WORLD! end of story. GayJ needs Wilder for legacy, Deontay will be remembered as THE HW champion, Joshua a paper-champ. FACT.
I dont care how many muppets flock to Wembley stadium, that don't make you great. I dont care how many five dollar PPV's you sell over there in that little Island, that's not greatness.
For these reasons, GayJ is the B-side.
Lolx.... No matter how you try so hard to paint it, the B side is still the B side. Boxing fans are not dumb.
Wilder should just come out straight to say he is not ready for the unified champ and we will understand instead of trying to play smart.
Boxing will not buy that BS any more.